zzmyth Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 I can't believe Spain was LAST from the televote.... And 2 of the 5 votes came from OUTSIDE of Europe... Wow
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 TATTOO is a decent winner tbh, at least it's catchy enough (a bit basic) but miles better than Euphoria mefears Still, raving to People's CHAMP CHA CHA CHA til the end of time
BOOM! Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: I feel like they'll get rid of the juries completely next year, Loreen is getting a shitstorm for this and it isn't even her fault It's almost always this way with the winner. There is always someone disagreeing and making tantrums online. They can stay in their bubbles and keep pretending that Loreen, #1 jury and #2 public winner didn't deserve the win, when she obviously DID! Haters can stay mad! --------- ^ Probably my fav performance of the song next to her Melfest winner's one!
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BOOM! said: We need the audience to STREAM their televote winner! But who can blame them?? Imagine listening to Cha Cha Cha more than once without being forced... It's better LIVE.. The RAVE Concert will be crazy
Nashe Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 They can keep the juries, but their total points need to be reworked. For example - the country with the best jury scores gets 120 points total, 2nd place gets 100, 3rd place 80. etc
RobDeWittBukater Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 8 hours ago, campelo said: Funny how she won and lost a chance to make a career of it and now she won a second time (ten years later), still no career. What happened After her 1st win, she carved out a niche for herself, staying true to her own sound, and gave us one of the best pop songs of the last decade: She's also served as a political activist and ambassador in and for her home country, and just like Euphoria before it, Tattoo has already become a hit in various European markets. She's moving at her own pace and doing music she genuinely loves (even if not all of it has mainstream appeal), so I'd say her career has turned out pretty good
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BOOM! said: It's almost always this way with the winner. There is always someone disagreeing and making tantrums online. They can stay in their bubbles and keep pretending that Loreen, #1 jury and #2 public winner didn't deserve the win, when she obviously DID! Haters can stay mad! --------- ^ Probably my fav performance of the song next to her Melfest winner's one! No-one was mad when she won 11 years ago cause she deserved it.. she didn't deserve it this time and I'm happy that many people agreed with this .. Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
Komet Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: I feel like they'll get rid of the juries completely next year, Loreen is getting a shitstorm for this and it isn't even her fault The backlash is insane, I don't remember it ever being this bad. What a dark ending to an otherwise lovely year, juries rly said No fun allowed<3 But yeah, something is gonna change, I'd assume some delegations will speak up too, at least behind the scenes.
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Konril said: Amazing Flag Parade. Shum. SHUM really is the RAVE Song of ESC 2021
BOOM! Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sweetestsecret said: No-one was mad when she won 11 years ago cause she deserved it.. she didn't deserve it this time and I'm happy that many people agreed with this .. She didn't deserve it based on who exactly?? Who decides this?? Next thing you will say is that Ukraine's win last year was deserved probably...
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, BOOM! said: She didn't deserve it based on who exactly?? Who decides this?? Next thing you will say is that Ukraine's win last year was deserved probably... The huge difference in televote results shows who the real winner was and not what the (scam) jury people voted Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
Starkboy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 the meltdowns as if Loreen wasn't 2nd in the public vote and she's gonna remain the most streamed and successful song
RobDeWittBukater Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Quality's gonna do what quality does Congrats, angel
BOOM! Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Sweetestsecret said: The huge difference in televote results shows who the real winner was and not what the (scam) jury people voted It wasn't a huge difference at all. It was around 100 points difference with Loreen coming #2 in televote. When it doesn't work for your agenda y'all want jury gone, when it does y'all want televote gone. Make it make sense.
Starkboy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, BOOM! said: It wasn't a huge difference at all. It was around 100 points difference with Loreen coming #2 in televote. When it doesn't work for your agenda y'all want jury gone, when it does y'all want televote gone. Make it make sense. just like yesterday they were complaining about Ukraine sweeping the televote last year and now they're suddenly "power to the people"
BOOM! Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Where was this energy when Spain and UK were CLEARLY robbed of win because of the pity votes last year? Where?? The double standards... It's giving delusion.
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Komet blu said: The backlash is insane, I don't remember it ever being this bad. What a dark ending to an otherwise lovely year, juries rly said No fun allowed<3 But yeah, something is gonna change, I'd assume some delegations will speak up too, at least behind the scenes. Everyone was thinking that jury result was rigged. Loreen winning the juries makes sense, but with 2x the points of the runner-up? The only thing they can do to make up for it is either make juries 25% of the vote next year or get rid of them all together. Loreen doesn't deserve this hate, it isn't her fault, but this situation isn't doing her any favors. I mean, Finland was the unanimous public's winner
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BOOM! said: It wasn't a huge difference at all. It was around 100 points difference with Loreen coming #2 in televote. When it doesn't work for your agenda y'all want jury gone, when it does y'all want televote gone. Make it make sense. 100 points is huge difference.. and you said that Ukraine televoting results last year were fake..Make it make sense. Anyway congratulations for loreen, we all know kaarija will stay more remembered and iconic through the years . Finland couldn't afford Eurovision so the jury voted for Loreen..https://www.esc-plus.com/eurovision-2023-in-case-finland-wins-chances-are-very-unlikely-that-helsinki-will-host-the-competition/ Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
Pendulum Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 8 hours ago, campelo said: Funny how she won and lost a chance to make a career of it and now she won a second time (ten years later), still no career. What happened Yet the occasional single droplets throughout the years post-Euphoria have been light years ahead of any other post-ESC-win songs. Though, Tattoo is a REGRESSION, following Euphoria's formula.
Mellark Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: I feel like they'll get rid of the juries completely next year, Loreen is getting a shitstorm for this and it isn't even her fault It's not going to make a difference because they will stay mad anyway when their fave doesn't win.
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Loreen getting that high jury votes as if the song is miles ahead of the others in quality seemed fishy tbh But i honestly despise conspiracies.. ENOUGH, just MOVE ON
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Mellark said: It's not going to make a difference because they will stay mad anyway when their fave doesn't win. You'll understand this is a different case from other years. The public's winner was pretty much unanimous, and nothing justifies that gap in the jury vote.
Komet Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BOOM! said: Where was this energy when Spain and UK were CLEARLY robbed of win because of the pity votes last year? Where?? The double standards... It's giving delusion. If Ukraine won last via insanely high jury votes while televote chose someone else, then yeah people would be mad. But it's the public that gave them the win, so whete are the doiblr standards? People chose the winner themselves last year, something they eere roobbed of this year Edited May 14, 2023 by Komet blu
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, Cryptique said: Loreen getting that high jury votes as if the song is miles ahead of the others in quality seemed fishy tbh But i honestly despise conspiracies.. ENOUGH, just MOVE ON There's no conspiracies, it's just that the majority of juries are radio hosts with no better music knowledge than the average person. I mean, that's how Sweden (which always sends the safest songs) does well in their vote every year.
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