beautiful player Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Hold awn... the way I'm switching... Cha Cha Cha is phenomenal. I can DEFINITELY see this deserving a win.
TanjiroKamado Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said: Yall are still going on about FINLAND when YOUR FAV WON?? Cant wait for the Spotify numbers, hope Cha 3x is TANKING
Paola Bracho Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, qee said: To me, juries are more and more acting like random televoters in the ESC bubble... PuuhhhleassseE ... We knew since day 1 that she was going to slay the juries with that performance, even more when all the songs were released and we made sure she had no competition on juries.
little legend Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 The people here saying that the vote of 200million doesn't matter but they want only the votes of 5 "professional" juries to count. That's so disgusting. We all know that the juries are corrupted, vote in a political way, there have been countless reports of juries being corrupted and etc. And even if they weren't corrupted (they are) , still the vote of just 5 people shouldn't weighted more or even equal with the vote of million of people. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you defending in general thoughts like democracy should not exist , the vote of the people shouldn't count and etc.
KaledKalil Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 hours ago, ChapelHooker said: Graham and especially Hannah were not having it and handled it with poise and grace... I would've flipped out. it was so cringy. They were very good hosts for sure. By the time it was a mess with the audience screaming I was expecting Hannah to go full
its_britney_bitch Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, little legend said: The people here saying that the vote of 200million doesn't matter but they want only the votes of 5 "professional" juries to count. That's so disgusting. We all know that the juries are corrupted, vote in a political way, there have been countless reports of juries being corrupted and etc. And even if they weren't corrupted (they are) , still the vote of just 5 people shouldn't weighted more or even equal with the vote of million of people. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you defending in general thoughts like democracy should not exist , the vote of the people shouldn't count and etc. Yeah because the public voted for Ukraine last year based solely on merit!
alstrom Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, little legend said: So embarrassing for Sweden More embarrassing for Finland who didn't win. See y'all grasping.
mellenthin Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, little legend said: So embarrassing for Sweden What's embarrassing is Finland not giving Sweden a single point. Sweden stays humble, Finland stays mad.
mystery Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Televote winners: 2009 - Norway - WINNER 2010 - Germany - WINNER 2011 - Azerbaijan - WINNER 2012 - Sweden - WINNER 2013 - Denmark - WINNER 2014 - Austria - WINNER 2015 - Italy - 3rd place 2016 - Russia - 3rd place 2017 - Portugal - WINNER 2018 - Israel - WINNER 2019 - Norway - 6th place 2020 - 2021 - Italy - WINNER 2022 - Ukraine - WINNER 2023 - Finland - 2nd place
alstrom Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 I get why people are upset, but Sweden won by the rules set by the competition? Like if you don't approve by the rules, don't participate and use your money if you're not gonna accept the winner who is crowned based on the rules set for the competition.
Fevesy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 The way Poland switched on Bejba needs to be studied Shes getting tons of positive comments in Polish now
Thickorita Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mark Rih said: The MAGA energy from Finland stans is just Watch the song BOMB on Spotify too
Benjamin Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 This "Sweden came second in the vote!" argument is really bad when you think of the voting system. For all we know Finland got 98% of the total public vote, Sweden 1% and the rest shared 1%. Very unlikely, obviously, but it doesn't matter how big a landslide someone gets in the public vote, they can only get 2 extra points than the 2nd place. So, yeah, Sweden came 2nd, but how far behind was that 2nd place? Maybe that's why there's so many angry people, huh? Anyway, we all know Austria, France and Norway are the real top 3 and everyone needs to get some taste.
Paola Bracho Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, little legend said: The people here saying that the vote of 200million doesn't matter but they want only the votes of 5 "professional" juries to count. That's so disgusting. We all know that the juries are corrupted, vote in a political way, there have been countless reports of juries being corrupted and etc. And even if they weren't corrupted (they are) , still the vote of just 5 people shouldn't weighted more or even equal with the vote of million of people. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you defending in general thoughts like democracy should not exist , the vote of the people shouldn't count and etc. If you were born yesterday you need to check some facts on the public vote before you make fool of yourself.
mellenthin Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, alstrom said: I get why people are upset, but Sweden won by the rules set by the competition? Like if you don't approve by the rules, don't participate and use your money if you're not gonna accept the winner who is crowned based on the rules set for the competition. It's so sad to see all these people bashing Loreen, just because their favourite didn't win. Really disappointed in the humanity of people.
mystery Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Jury vote winners: 2009 - Norway - WINNER 2010 - Germany - WINNER 2011 - Italy - 2nd place 2012 - Sweden - WINNER 2013 - Denmark - WINNER 2014 - Austria - WINNER 2015 - Sweden - WINNER 2016 - Australia - 2nd place 2017 - Portugal - WINNER 2018 - Austria - 3rd place 2019 - North Macedonia - 7th place 2020 - 2021 - Switzerland - 3rd place 2022 - United Kingdom - 2nd place 2023 - Sweden - WINNER
Starkboy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Benjamin said: This "Sweden came second in the vote!" argument is really bad when you think of the voting system. For all we know Finland got 98% of the total public vote, Sweden 1% and the rest shared 1%. Very unlikely, obviously, but it doesn't matter how big a landslide someone gets in the public vote, they can only get 2 extra points than the 2nd place. So, yeah, Sweden came 2nd, but how far behind was that 2nd place? Maybe that's why there's so many angry people, huh? Anyway, we all know Austria, France and Norway are the real top 3 and everyone needs to get some taste. ??? didn't they reveal the number of points yesterday?
mystery Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) When Televote winner didn't win: 2015 - Italy - 3rd place 2016 - Russia - 3rd place 2019 - Norway - 6th place 2023 - Finland - 2nd place When Jury winner didn't win: 2011 - Italy - 2nd place 2016 - Australia - 2nd place 2018 - Austria - 3rd place 2019 - North Macedonia - 7th place 2021 - Switzerland - 3rd place 2022 - United Kingdom - 2nd place Edited May 14, 2023 by mystery
DUA LIPA Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Paola Bracho said: It's not that Tattoo was the absolute masterpiece but everything else was a wreck that made Tattoo shine even more. She simply left no other option to the juries. there were other options the juries just always pander back to radio fudder scandi pop the most unrealistic part about the jury ranking is the huge gap between sweden and the rest. Edited May 14, 2023 by DUA LIPA
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Benjamin said: This "Sweden came second in the vote!" argument is really bad when you think of the voting system. For all we know Finland got 98% of the total public vote, Sweden 1% and the rest shared 1%. Very unlikely, obviously, but it doesn't matter how big a landslide someone gets in the public vote, they can only get 2 extra points than the 2nd place. So, yeah, Sweden came 2nd, but how far behind was that 2nd place? Maybe that's why there's so many angry people, huh? Anyway, we all know Austria, France and Norway are the real top 3 and everyone needs to get some taste. the countries didn't give sweden 12 points on televote. Sweden didn't have 12 points..but it's the winner cause of the scam jury.. yeah that sucks. Finland is the true winner
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