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Can't wait to hear how many sappy rock-pop ballads San Remo manages to have this year

 

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This part living in my head RENT FREE!!

Especially from the finals, that outfit... :clap3::flame:

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Great entry from Czechia :clap3:They’re coming for the top 10 

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Sanremo is such a circus but it's Italian so people act like it's cLaSsY

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2 hours ago, Funhouse said:

Sanremo is such a circus but it's Italian so people act like it's cLaSsY

But now we've said it. Six hours for 14 songs :bibliahh: 

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Is the Czech entry going to actually go to Eurovision, what's going on with the radio silence from EBU about them?

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1 hour ago, khalyan said:

Is the Czech entry going to actually go to Eurovision, what's going on with the radio silence from EBU about them?

I'm wondering if the Ukrainian delegation is objecting behind the scenes. I get the sensitivity to issues around Ukraine and the war, but I think the reaction to the song is a bit unreasonable.

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The quality of songs in the NFs is tragic this year.. so many songs blend into each other, no original standouts, no true *** bops just very lowkey ones.. Eurovision is OVER

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27 minutes ago, Gogetonthebus said:

I'm wondering if the Ukrainian delegation is objecting behind the scenes. I get the sensitivity to issues around Ukraine and the war, but I think the reaction to the song is a bit unreasonable.

This is all because one of the singers is Russian and the song is about unity, right? :rip: 

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6 minutes ago, khalyan said:

This is all because one of the singers is Russian and the song is about unity, right? :rip: 

And the chorus is in Ukrainian, which is causing the biggest uproar. Again I get the sensitivity and not wanting to be politically undermined in their 'winner' year, but many of the arguments I have seen about it are very nativist. It's a great song and will probably place high, so I hope they get their chance to perform it.

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38 minutes ago, Gogetonthebus said:

I'm wondering if the Ukrainian delegation is objecting behind the scenes. I get the sensitivity to issues around Ukraine and the war, but I think the reaction to the song is a bit unreasonable.

The Ukrainian broadcaster posted Vesna on their Eurovision instagram page (along with the other newly chosen/announced participants), so if there is something going on behind the scenes I doubt it's on the Ukrainian delegation's behalf 

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11 minutes ago, khalyan said:

This is all because one of the singers is Russian and the song is about unity, right? :rip: 

I think this user summed it up well

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I feel like at least on this sub there is a ton of confusion on what the Ukranian fans are complaining about so I thought it would be helpful to provide a non biased summary on the 3 main concerns Ukranian fans have about the song

 

1: The fact that there’s a Russian member- I think this one is pretty self explanatory, I struggle to understand the concern because it really does appear like all band members are in support of Ukraine

 

2: The concern about the Slavic Sisterhood message- there is concern about the idea of Slavic sisterhood being the way Vesna tribute Ukraine when this has been one of Russia’s main justifications for the invasion of Ukraine

 

3: What appears to be the main concern from Ukranian fans is the whole is the (quite debatable) idea that the song is suggesting that Ukraine and Russia make peace instantly (with the phrase “choose love over power” being interpreted by some Ukrainians as meaning that they should forgive Russia for their actions if peace is reached: a good example being through this tweet https://twitter.com/trtodoit/status/1623236909542645761?s=46&t=DR2i7RtowaarIZsevjRJmw ). I don’t think Vesna actually mean this one after reading the lyrics again but I can partially understand the concern

 

I think it’s pretty clear that Vesna and all its members are clearly in support of Ukraine. However, it is clear that the way they frame their song in support of Ukraine is clearly misguided. It also speaks volumes as to how only someone who has truly lived through such a conflict can lyrically express the feelings they are experiencing, and I feel for Vesna because they clearly wrote a great song melodically and clearly they are all talented songwriters and artists.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/10wxscj/ukranian_fans_comments_on_my_sisters_crown/

 

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2 minutes ago, Komet blu said:

Thanks for this, it really does provide a lot more of the nuance behind the controversy. 
 

However, if Jamala was able to sing without issue I can’t imagine they’ll do anything with Czechia though you never know.  I’ve seen people say online they should be DQ’d because the song is too political which I still don’t necessarily believe is true.  It’s a shame too, Czechia has given us one of the only noteworthy songs of the year so far so it would be awful if it was unable to compete somehow. 

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6 minutes ago, BOOM! said:

:rip::redface:

 

AHHHHH :jonny5: :jonny5:  SOFIA 2024

 

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I hope Vesna actually get to participate with no issues because if they get disqualified for some reason of course everyone's going to blame the Ukrainian fans :rip:

the lashings after Kalush winning were ENOUGH

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1 hour ago, Komet blu said:

AHHHHH :jonny5: :jonny5:  SOFIA 2024

 

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We need Emanuela x Tedi Aleksandrova on Eurovision :WAP:

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Omg Alessandra is smashing in Sweden

#33 on Spotify top 50

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Not Sanremo outmelfesting Melfest 

 

 

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we will be rooting for Elodie Apostolis

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On 2/8/2023 at 9:41 PM, Musicology said:

We need Emanuela x Tedi Aleksandrova on Eurovision :WAP:

 

5 hours ago, Funhouse said:

Not Sanremo outmelfesting Melfest 

 

 

Yes for both :jonny2:

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We need Dara for Bulgaria :WAP:

 

 

 

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this NEEDS to be the maltese entry for this year and im not even kidding

i dont get why people are hypinh up "checkmate" by brooke, it literally sounds like half of the songs that dont make it through past the first phase in the last few years

 

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I need Lazza to win Sanremo :clap3:

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On 2/8/2023 at 3:29 PM, Flomik said:

I hope Vesna actually get to participate with no issues because if they get disqualified for some reason of course everyone's going to blame the Ukrainian fans :rip:

the lashings after Kalush winning were ENOUGH

Same, but it’s sad how fast Eurovision fans are willing to overlook legitimate criticisms of the song just bc it’s a bop and they’re pissed that Ukraine won over “teh bops!!!1!!” from last year..

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