Komet Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, khalyan said: Why Finland will win - massive televote appeal, reports of him getting the loudest applause at the jury show, winning audience polls 3x over second place - juries could reward the composition of the song since it's a nicely made mashup of two styles of songs into one - juries could feel pressured into giving it more jury votes than we expect based on odds and tele appeal - juries have rewarded less than stellar vocals with good staging packages in the past, such as Sweden 2018 getting 2nd in juries Why Finland won't win - some of the imagery might be a turnoff to casual voters on the night, such as the snake tongue or the human centipede - juries might punish the song for not having a vocal moment and being performed pretty much as a rap - Kaarija gets too carried away in performances, losing balance and nearly falling at the jury show yesterday. He'll need his jury performance to be completely in control to appeal to them - would other countries steal televotes from them? Croatia is very divisive but could be very dangerous in the televote if they make it through today. Israel, Norway, Austria could all get large televotes as well Why Sweden will win - Loreen can obviously sing very well, and Sweden has a reputation of sending fabulous staging packages to Eurovision - She could win the Duncan Lawrence way or by winning juries, giving her multiple paths forward to the crown - She has one of the most iconic wins in history, and even casual viewers might remember Euphoria and reward her comeback to the contest - if Kaarija gets eaten alive by the jury, then her path forward becomes easier Why Sweden won't win - Even though most casual fans won't know the melfest staging, just looking at the staging here on first glance isn't as WOW as before, which could affect televote - The televote has not been rewarding Sweden recently. Last year they were 5th, they were 11th in 2021, 9th in 2019, and 23rd in 2018. Could the televoters be tired of Sweden? - If other songs steal the jury vote from her, it could leave her with a gap large enough that can't be overcome for the win. France, Spain, Italy, and even some odd ball countries such as Lithuania, Portugal, Estonia, and Cyprus could all do well there. - Will people compare Tattoo with Euphoria and not give it as many points as they normally would because they perceive it to be a weaker song/staging than what they remember? This could apply to both jurors and televote. We love an academic dissertation
DUA LIPA Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, BOOM! said: Ukraine will definitely eat a huge amount of Finland's televotes. Even if Eurovision stans don't see it, it's inevitable to happen, because it's usually the GP voting the most and the pity votes will still be there. How are Ukranian televote points going to affect Finland but not Sweden? Are u saying people who vote for Sweden have less empathy than people voting for other countries?
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 9, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, DUA LIPA said: How are Ukranian televote points going to affect Finland but not Sweden? Are u saying people who vote for Sweden have less empathy than people voting for other countries?
BOOM! Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, DUA LIPA said: How are Ukranian televote points going to affect Finland but not Sweden? Are u saying people who vote for Sweden have less empathy than people voting for other countries? What? I didn't even mention Sweden at all, not sure why are you bringing Sweden. I said that it will affect Finland the most since he is seen as televote winner and Finland would probably be affected the most since he will not have that big jury support. It's really not that hard.
Zeferino Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 Waiting I just need my faves to qualify and I can carry on
Miracle Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 Am I the only one who thinks I should eat Käärij's *** on stage so I give him the little push he needs to win the whole thing?
ZIVERT Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, DUA LIPA said: How are Ukranian televote points going to affect Finland but not Sweden? Are u saying people who vote for Sweden have less empathy than people voting for other countries? It’s just delusional coping because the Chanelephants haven’t gotten over losing to Ukraine last year Ukraine is almost always underrated by juries even when they send strong entries, and this song isn’t as strong as Stefania to hook the televote, so I’m not expecting a super high place. Most likely left side of the scoreboard, but I’ll be surprised if Ukraine places higher than 7th place this year.
BOOM! Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: It’s just delusional coping because the Chanelephants haven’t gotten over losing to Ukraine last year Ukraine is almost always underrated by juries even when they send strong entries, and this song isn’t as strong as Stefania to hook the televote, so I’m not expecting a super high place. Most likely left side of the scoreboard, but I’ll be surprised if Ukraine places higher than 7th place this year. Is this supposed to be an insult or?? Not you of all people talking about not being able to get over anything. Seek help creep. Edited May 9, 2023 by BOOM!
nasa Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 Ukraine will get decent 150 points from the public and cute 35 from the juries just for it to hit #10. That's it
nasa Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 Since we're on the topic again, Chanel is a huge FLOP! Imagine hitting #3 (fraud), having your fans spam everything and everywhere that you are the real winner (fake), still being obsessed with Ukraine a year after (pathetic), and not even getting invited to perform when several #4-#5 hitting countries were... oh wow the forgotten fad that you are miss Walmart, no impact whatsoever
BOOM! Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 Ofc it's the other half of the clown duo. Iconic Chanel really hit that spot!!
ZIVERT Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, nasa said: Since we're on the topic again, Chanel is a huge FLOP! Imagine hitting #3 (fraud), having your fans spam everything and everywhere that you are the real winner (fake), still being obsessed with Ukraine a year after (pathetic), and not even getting invited to perform when several #4-#5 hitting countries were... oh wow the forgotten fad that you are miss Walmart, no impact whatsoever Oof!
BOOM! Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 And of course i am the one getting a warning just minutes later. Sooo transparent, so, so transparent that we HAVE to laugh.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 9, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted May 9, 2023 Can y’all just lash this years Spanish entry instead of relashing last years?
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 9, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, BOOM! said: And of course i am the one getting a warning just minutes later. Sooo transparent, so, so transparent that we HAVE to laugh. Girl you just got a reminder but you can’t call people creeps even if you made some points
BOOM! Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, khalyan said: Girl you just got a reminder but you can’t call people creeps even if you made some points Like Iru would say, the thing is known about what kind of trolling and bullying the clown duo was doing during the last year, and they both continue to do exactly the same thing one year later, derailing and trolling the 2023 thread too without facing any consequences...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 9, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, BOOM! said: Like Iru would say, the thing is known about what kind of trolling and bullying the clown duo was doing during the last year, and they both continue to do exactly the same thing one year later, derailing and trolling the 2023 thread too without facing any consequences... It’s really not that big of a deal anyway glad we can stream the SF2 winner together
nasa Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BOOM! said: Iconic Chanel really hit that spot!! too bad the spot in question isn't #1 and #2 in both jury and televote ot: Finland is winning I'm afraid Edited May 9, 2023 by nasa
Bloodflowers. Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 3 hours ago, abelfenty said: Forgot we are being treated to a Rita GODra performance tonight Rita GODra better sing Radioactive and Let You Love Me
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