Joey Coco Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: He’s a true poet, and we love a male rapper who is acknowledging his own previous ignorance and for a creating/releasing a pro-LGBT anthem in the making. 2 birds with 1 stone. The king has returned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriser Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 No big fan of Kendrick, but it's a word. The message of the song is very pro-LGBT. I think this is only offensive if you choose to be offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hephaestus Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: What? 1 minute ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: Let atrl rewrite history: Kendrick is why hip hop uses gay slurs!! Like where have you been the past 40 years You're literally creating a narrative based on your own perception of what people are saying. Users saying this might enable/normalize the use of the slur =/= Kendrick being the reason behind homophobia in hip hop. Reading comprehension, it's really not that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: He’s a true poet, and we love a male rapper who is acknowledging his own previous ignorance and for a creating/releasing a pro-LGBT anthem in the making. acknowledging and doubling down on his ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hephaestus said: You're literally creating a narrative based on your own perception of what people are saying. Users saying this might enable/normalize the use of the slur =/= Kendrick being the reason behind homophobia in hip hop. Reading comprehension, it's really not that difficult. Speaking on this normalizing anything is psycho behavior when larger hop hop icons have used it before and it hasnt chsnged anything. Take your stupidity elsewhere because in reality NOTHING HAS HAPPEENED. It's not that hard so stop playing dumb So no Kendrick isn't the reason for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hephaestus Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: Speaking on this normalizing anything is psycho behavior when larger hop hop icons have used it before and it hasnt chsnged anything. Take your stupidity elsewhere because in reality NOTHING HAS HAPPEENED. It's not that hard so stop playing dumb So no Kendrick isn't the reason for anything. The anger So we should allow a straight person to use an homophobic slur just because other did the same before? A really intelligent approach, I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I haven't heard the song but based on what the OP posted no cause he's mentioning why its not ok to use it. Common sense people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: Speaking on this normalizing anything is psycho behavior when larger hop hop icons have used it before and it hasnt chsnged anything. Take your stupidity elsewhere because in reality NOTHING HAS HAPPEENED. It's not that hard so stop playing dumb So no Kendrick isn't the reason for anything. SO other non-LGBT+ hiphop people using the f slur makes it okay now? This is how you like it? for a harmful slur to be even more normalised and easy to use for the straights? "NOTHING HAS HAPPNED" ... yeah true, homophobes will continue to feel just fine calling us a ******. love that for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Coco Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 The day I chose humanity over religion The family got closer, it was all forgiven I said them F-bombs, I ain't know any better Mistakenly I didn't think you'd know any different See, I was taught words was nothing more than a sound If everything was pronounced without any intentions The very second you challenge the **** I was kicking Reminded me about a show I did out the city That time I brung a fan on stage to rap But disapproved the word that she couldn't say with me You said "Kendrick, ain't no room for contradiction To truly understand love, switch position '******, ******, ******,' we can say it together But only if you let a white girl say '*****'" Powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Hephaestus said: The anger So we should allow a straight person to use an homophobic slur just because other did the same before? A really intelligent approach, I must say. You don't allow anything. He will say what he wants you don't matter and don't allow anything so yeah you need to understand the position you're playing lol. And the statement wasn't about "allowing" so keep up? You stated that Kendrick will now be the cause of an influx of str8 people calling gays ****. Literally where is the proof that those instances are directly linked to Kendrick and not something else? What data do you have? What evidence do you have that this just sparked a league of people saying *** everyday? Where is it? The logic is pretty pathetic even for you. How many people said *** yesterday in comparison to now that the song is out? Are you using Twitter for proof or? Edited May 13, 2022 by BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, flower moon said: SO other non-LGBT+ hiphop people using the f slur makes it okay now? This is how you like it? for a harmful slur to be even more normalised and easy to use for the straights? "NOTHING HAS HAPPNED" ... yeah true, homophobes will continue to feel just fine calling us a ******. love that for us. What proof do you have that it is normalized more so than before? Where is the data for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slate Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, Billionaire said: Why are straights even putting their input into this lmao Very weird tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: What proof do you have that it is normalized more so than before? Where is the data for this? What proof do you have that it isn't? or that it won't be? Where is the data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, flower moon said: What proof do you have that it isn't? or that it won't be? Where is the data Yeah so no is your answer. My point Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 "What proof do you have that this won't be a thing!11!" Or you could understand how data works why the burden of proof is on you because your the one making claims that ...hasn't happened. Log out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMmY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Some gays need to stop celebrating Pride and start celebrating DIGNITY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hephaestus Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: You stated that Kendrick will now be the cause of an influx of str8 people calling gays ****. 16 minutes ago, Hephaestus said: Users saying this might enable/normalize the use of the slur =/= Kendrick being the reason behind homophobia in hip hop. No I didn't. Again, reading comprehension. Use it. 7 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: You don't allow anything. He will say what he wants you don't matter and don't allow anything so yeah you need to understand the position you're playing lol. And the statement wasn't about "allowing" so keep up? You stated that Kendrick will now be the cause of an influx of str8 people calling gays ****. Literally where is the proof that those instances are directly linked to Kendrick and not something else? What data do you have? What evidence do you have that this just sparked a league of people saying *** everyday? Where is it? The logic is pretty pathetic even for you. Hoe many people said *** yesterday in comparison to now that the song is out? Are you using Twitter for proof or? Also, rich of you to talk about pathetic logic when you sat down and wrote all of this on an assumption. If he's allowed to use an homophobic slur in a song, people are allowed to criticise it. It goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: Yeah so no is your answer. My point Pathetic. Is you fave a flop? is he not perpetuating the use of a highly offensive homophobic slur to millions globally? Locally? or..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post Malone Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, Billionaire said: Why are straights even putting their input into this lmao And even worse a Billie stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joey Coco said: 2 birds with 1 stone. The king has returned! Exactly! I love him. 21 minutes ago, flower moon said: acknowledging and doubling down on his ignorance. That’s what a mature man does. He’s acknowledged where he’s gone wrong in the past and is apologetic for it. For a man of his calibre, in his field and with his reputation, this is huge. He loves the LGBT community! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, K$Ellie said: he called out a white girl for singing the n word so why does he think he can say this He literally switches out the phrase for "F-Bombs" near the end of the song and says he realizes that if he wanted to be comfortable using ****** then he'd have to be comfortable letting white people use the n-word and how hypocritical he's been all along to keep using it. Edit - Oh my god, some of you are actually illiterate and think the end part of the song where he recalls what his trans uncle says to him is endorsing using both slurs. Edited May 13, 2022 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jqnetto Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imabadkid Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Mike91 said: A rapper on his level, making a pro-LGBTQ+ song, with the type audience he has, is kind of a big deal. Meanwhile, here's ATRL finding a way to turn it into a negative. MTE. ATRL is so dense it’s embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bussea Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) y’all defend usage of the n word and claim it’s not a big deal and just a word, so why is this one? I thought y’all liked slurs? atleast this wasn’t in a negative context Edited May 13, 2022 by Bussea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hephaestus said: No I didn't. Again, reading comprehension. Use it. Also, rich of you to talk about pathetic logic when you sat down and wrote all of this on an assumption. If he's allowed to use an homophobic slur in a song, people are allowed to criticise it. It goes both ways. Of course people are allowed to criticize it but to act like this African American rapper isn't trying to touch on something that str8s don't even care about is nothing short of pathetic. You understand the song, that's fine but what about understanding the context of it? There's an entire layer of social context that is slipping over all of your heads but that's fine. Those who the message is really for will receive it anyway. Sometimes songs might include slurs, why? Because it's the truth. Would yall have rather him say that they didn't say it back then? He clearly is referencing it now because he's speaking on what they thought was cool back then and that its not domething he does now anyway. If thats something breaks your trust with him then ok? That diesnt mean the context has changed at all? If anything it sounds like you need tougher skin to realize he isnt calling you that? Hes talking about a time where he thought saying it was cool unknowingly hurting his friends and family in the process? Movie directors like Tarantino can shamelessly add ****** to the script of his most iconic movie Pulp Fiction for no educational purposes ... at all but that won't spark leagues of people saying it? Where is the outrage there? Why is it easier to get angy at this black man speaking on his experience in a serious tone where its obiois he isnt joking about anything? The film script that tarantino has isnt there because of his experiences he just added jut because. It's like getting angry at a documentary because it mentions a slur at some point as opposed to placing that anger at a cheap snl type of show who just cashes in on the humor of the word. The delivery may not be the best but understand the context. Every rap song that means anything has one. In hip hop you unapologetically speak on your experiences and Kendrick will never water that down for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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