Mast Posted May 15, 2022 Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, drip drop said: let me ask this here too: i'm inexperienced so excuse this question but;; me and my bf got tested for hiv + other std's, all of them are came out negative. and that night we gonna have sex without condom. is it still possible to get hiv or any std? no PrEPs will be taken btw No. If neither of you have an STD then you cannot give each other one. But both of y'all should still continue to get tested at least every 6 months, especially if y'all **** other people. IT IS POSSIBLE, however, to test negative but still have an STD somewhere in your body, for example: 1. You could be positive for an STD that you weren't tested for. Most STD tests till cover 6 to 14 different STDs, but most won't cover all. For example, a lot of doctors don't test for Herpes and HPV unless you are showing symptoms. Most doctors also won't test for Mycoplasma for the same reason. You could test negative in all other tests and be positive for these if they weren't included as part of your STD exam. 2. You can test negative for an STD on a part of your body, but still have the STD present on another part of your body that wasn't tested. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea, for example, thrive in localized areas like the throat, anus, and urethra. If you only did a urine and blood exam, it's possible to test negative for Gonorrhea and Chlamydia but actually have one (or both!) in your anus and throat. That's why you should always do a blood test, a urine test, a throat swab, AND an anal swab. Side note: PrEP only prevents HIV; it does not prevent other STDs. You also have to take it every day for a month for it to start working. It's not a pill you pop whenever you have sex. Edited May 15, 2022 by Mast
drip drop Posted May 15, 2022 Posted May 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, Mast said: No. If neither of you have an STD then you cannot give each other one. But both of y'all should still continue to get tested at least every 6 months, especially if y'all **** other people. IT IS POSSIBLE, however, to test negative but still have an STD somewhere in your body, for example: 1. You could be positive for an STD that you weren't tested for. Most STD tests till cover 6 to 14 different STDs, but most won't cover all. For example, a lot of doctors don't test for Herpes and HPV unless you are showing symptoms. Most doctors also won't test for Mycoplasma for the same reason. You could test negative in all other tests and be positive for these if they weren't included as part of your STD exam. 2. You can test negative for an STD on a part of your body, but still have the STD present on another part of your body that wasn't tested. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea, for example, thrive in localized areas like the throat, anus, and urethra. If you only did a urine and blood exam, it's possible to test negative for Gonorrhea and Chlamydia but actually have one (or both!) in your anus and throat. That's why you should always do a blood test, a urine test, a throat swab, AND an anal swab. Side note: PrEP only prevents HIV; it does not prevent other STDs. You also have to take it every day for a month for it to start working. It's not a pill you pop whenever you have sex. thank you so much for this detailed answer, i appreciate it a lot
CrimsonX Posted May 15, 2022 Posted May 15, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 12:10 PM, Vitaly said: Personally I won't. Like, I am sorry, but ain't nobody will guilt trip me out of this. yea same. op asked a question, not going to feel bad for answering truthfully but its a HELL NO from me.
ATRL Moderator wehavetostan Posted May 16, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted May 16, 2022 So many people being proudly ignorant
Ramirodri Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 On 5/11/2022 at 12:07 PM, wehavetostan said: Yes, as long as they're undetectable.
Taemira Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 does undetectable mean it's still safe to creampie someone who isn't on that prep thing? then yes
JustHoran Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 No. Too risky for me, I'd be way too paranoid which wouldn't be good for them either.
Daddy Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 8 hours ago, CrimsonX said: yea same. op asked a question, not going to feel bad for answering truthfully but its a HELL NO from me. Doing too much but not surprised. Yuck.
Daddy Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Taemira said: does undetectable mean it's still safe to creampie someone who isn't on that prep thing? then yes Someone that's undetectable could bleed into.your open wound and nothing would happen. There's no need for the other person to take PrEP Prep all. That's what these "too risky!" dummies don't understand.
jakedavis1994 Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 On 5/12/2022 at 1:08 AM, Beyoncé Knowles said: I don't want to date anyone. Humans are so exhausting! Being alone, doing your own thing, enjoying food and music, it's so peaceful. Being alone is so soothing to me. Everytime I talk to someone, I just feel disappointed... I feel so seen
BabyBenzz Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 i want to say yes but unfortunately it's a no... it's too scary, hanging out and whatnot sure but not dating/sex. I wouldn't be able to shake the thought of getting it
Babydoll. Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 obviously. some of the replies in this thread are weird asf
Oktober Knight Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Daddy said: Someone that's undetectable could bleed into.your open wound and nothing would happen. There's no need for the other person to take PrEP Prep all. That's what these "too risky!" dummies don't understand. Thank you! I've been having unprotected sex with my husband who is undetectable for 7 years and I'm fine. And I refuse to take Prep because there's absolutely no need for it. OT: Furthermore, I think guys who are undetectable are even more healthy and less of a risk than those who are negative. At least they can't pass on the virus when keeping up with their medication unlike a guy who hooks up every night with strangers having intermittent unprotected sex. But hey - they get tested every 6 months so it's ok. The lack of awareness in here is gross.
DevonRoars Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 It used to be yes, but after this last virus I had and my phobia of taking pills it just wouldn't be safe for me to risk anything in general. I've seen and know a lot of people who have been burned in my area by a stealthing community too so to trust someone with my sexual health in general is just a no. I'm just not having sex with anyone.
CaptainMusic Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 On 5/15/2022 at 11:57 PM, Mast said: Side note: PrEP only prevents HIV; it does not prevent other STDs. You also have to take it every day for a month for it to start working. It's not a pill you pop whenever you have sex. On 5/16/2022 at 12:35 AM, drip drop said: thank you so much for this detailed answer, i appreciate it a lot This is false, you do not need to take the pill for a month for it to start working. It’s 7 days for daily use and if you bottom you can take it on demand (2 pills 2-24 hours before and 2 pills the next 2 days), but still daily is better. If you’re having unprotected sex you should be using PREP, you shouldn’t just go by your partner’s word IMO.
Glassmouth Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Not surprised by the amount of ignorance on ATRL I'm undetectable, my boyfriend and I have been together for 7 months, knowing each other for 2 years and he's still negative, I constantly take my meds, have my check-in's and he remains negative while ******* bb in our monogamous relationship Edited May 17, 2022 by Glassmouth
Mast Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 8 hours ago, CaptainMusic said: This is false, you do not need to take the pill for a month for it to start working. It’s 7 days for daily use and if you bottom you can take it on demand (2 pills 2-24 hours before and 2 pills the next 2 days), but still daily is better. The range varies from person to person, but it can take anywhere from 7 to 22 days for PrEP to work properly, which is why I just said the longer end of the range. The "on-demand" method you are talking about does have work but should not be your main method of using PrEP.
SimpleKindofLife Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) There’s tons of people I wouldn’t date but a manageable infection is something that doesn’t play a factor in that decision. If you really like a person and you’re not at harm why should it matter? The HIV stigma is so sad Edited May 17, 2022 by SimpleKindofLife
CaptainMusic Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mast said: The range varies from person to person, but it can take anywhere from 7 to 22 days for PrEP to work properly, which is why I just said the longer end of the range. The "on-demand" method you are talking about does have work but should not be your main method of using PrEP. It doesn’t vary or take that long to work properly, 22 days simply refers to maximum protection in the blood (usually referring to injection drug users at risk) but that’s based on outdated US studies. PrEP reaches other parts of the body like rectal tissue a lot quicker than that which is why On-Demand is often recommended for bottoms. PrEP is highly effective when taken for 7 days which is the recommended lead in time in the UK, the difference between 22 days is neglible (like 1%). I did take it for 20+ days when I started to be safe but was told by my doctor that I didn’t need to and 7 days was enough. But yeah I agree Daily PREP is better, and don’t recommend On-Demand you have to be sure you take the doses correctly and not miss anything. You can miss a dose on daily PREP and you’ll still be protected as the levels in your body will be high. Daily PREP + Condoms is the way to go
Claymore Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 On 5/16/2022 at 12:03 PM, BabyBenzz said: i want to say yes but unfortunately it's a no... it's too scary, hanging out and whatnot sure but not dating/sex. I wouldn't be able to shake the thought of getting it Wow, you are so generous to allow HIV positive people to be in your presence.
aesthetic bih Posted May 18, 2022 Posted May 18, 2022 If I really really like that person and the HIV is undetectable + they are responsible of not contracting it to others by maintain their medication of whatever, then yes.
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