Mean Trees Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, slw84 said: Suga MAMA is that girl. That song held its weight over the years. Whew! which is difficult to do on the B'day album. B'Day is an AMAZING album! So many good songs. You're right. It is a standout on a standout album. Edited March 20 by Mean Trees 1
vale9001 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) Azealia i mean yeah she doesn't give a f about black country artitsts and this woman and her husband producing music projects about hiding horses in the countries while they live on these mansion on private islands is embarassingly phoney but we want big mainstream popstars makes big things even if contradictory and phoney. Not everything in the pop culture needs to be pure and real. We don't need a papyrus everytime to explain us a mainstream popstar is mainstream with all the good and the bad. The culture needs figures able to drive a conversation in a way is appealing for everyone too. Edited March 20 by vale9001 1 1
C_Colstead Posted March 20 Posted March 20 It's so funny to me watching Azealia pretend to be an advocate for Black women, like she hasn't spent her entire career hating on any and every successful Black woman in the industry. And her claiming Bey should stop with the "pity party" would carry much more weight if it were made by someone who hasn't accused everybody she has ever come into contact wth of racism when she's f****d up yet another opportunity she and her yes men pretend she hasn't had. 6 1
Popular Post FSXP Posted March 20 Popular Post Posted March 20 18 minutes ago, Sannie said: Are any of the stans even reading this lol? Probably not. Although she is unhinged, she brings up good points. I am seeing a lot of BeyHives say that Bey began to create this album after her experience at the CMAs, so the question of why she feels the need to "push back" and "prove something" to white people when she has been positioning herself as a "black voice/liberator" is a good one. Why does she care? Of course country people are racist. Who cares what they think? This is why Beyoncé is Beyoncé and Azealia Banks spends her days typing rants on IG stories. Beyoncé created a country song on her highly acclaimed and successful album. Beyoncé was invited to the CMAs because she is Beyoncé, and she created art that fit the genre of the award show. Instead of a campaign and rant of her treatment, she did her research and she created art out of her situation. There is nothing to indicate that she's craving acceptance from white people. The problem is that people project their underlying belief you need white acceptance to accomplish anything in these spaces. Beyoncé proved that you need no connection to the Nashville scene to create a hit country record. That's why she continues to be Beyoncé. She continues to defy the odds and prove that you can achieve anything despite people telling you no. That's also why Azealia is a one hit wonder with nothing better to do with her days cause she's too concerned about others rather than her own struggling career. 13 2
Mr. Blue_Shirt Posted March 20 Posted March 20 This is the level of joblessness that I can't achieve, even if I'm jobless 1 3
Kingdom Posted March 20 Posted March 20 45 minutes ago, Sannie said: Are any of the stans even reading this lol? Probably not. Although she is unhinged, she brings up good points. I am seeing a lot of BeyHives say that Bey began to create this album after her experience at the CMAs, so the question of why she feels the need to "push back" and "prove something" to white people when she has been positioning herself as a "black voice/liberator" is a good one. Why does she care? Of course country people are racist. Who cares what they think? You are the perfect example of why beyonce is making this album. COUNTRY MUSIC is BLACK MUSIC but for years and decades it has beenhijacked by inbred racist white people as their OWN. Thats why in 2016 they were telling her to "stay in her place" that she does not belong in country music. Bey being the first black woman to have a no 1 hot country song is the point. Also i can tell you are white....cause you saying bey positioned herself as a "black voice/liberator" is a very fox news thing to say. She never once claimed she was.......BEYONCE is a BLACK WOMAN and is allowed to make art from the place of BEING BLACK. That is her birth right. Hope this helps. 5
Thor Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Stans can fume all they want but she did make several points here. This whole era feels so gimmicky. 4
Kingdom Posted March 20 Posted March 20 30 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Azealia i mean yeah she doesn't give a f about black country artitsts and this woman and her husband producing music projects about hiding horses in the countries while they live on these mansion on private islands is embarassingly phoney but we want big mainstream popstars makes big things even if contradictory and phoney. Not everything in the pop culture needs to be pure and real. We don't need a papyrus everytime to explain us a mainstream popstar is mainstream with all the good and the bad. The culture needs figures able to drive a conversation in a way is appealing for everyone too. So..beyonce needs to be dirt poor in nashville and picking horse poop off the farm to be able to make a country album, but keith urban who is from Australia and shania twain who is from canada can make country albums? but of those three names only one of them was born and raised in TEXAS i really hope you see how less than smart you sound..lol 9 3 1
Thor Posted March 20 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, SoundsandSongs said: Sis Beyonce, like most of the world doesn't know who Azealia is. People probably think she's an Iggy Azalea troll account. Oh pls. Beyonce absolutely knows Azealia. Y'all love to act like Beyonce is this aloof person, while she's very much chronically online. 1 1
Pheromosa Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Spilled about Suga Mama but once again this is just another drug induced rant
Frogger17 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, Kingdom said: COUNTRY MUSIC is BLACK MUSIC but for years and decades it has been hijacked by inbred racist white people as their OWN. You can't hijack a genre you helped create. Country as a genre is a mixture of influences. 1
professor2000 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 I mean, once again, among the fluff…she made some good points! Cant deny it. I was also too wondering why she doesn't use her platform to uplift other black female artists…especially with Renaissance. So many other black female artists doing great within the genre. And no mentions, features… nothing. If I had to guess, it won't happen with Cowboy Carter either. 4 4
redsbae Posted March 20 Posted March 20 All these think pieces and she still has no sophomore album. She's so bitter it's sad
thirdward Posted March 20 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Sannie said: Are any of the stans even reading this lol? Probably not. Although she is unhinged, she brings up good points. I am seeing a lot of BeyHives say that Bey began to create this album after her experience at the CMAs, so the question of why she feels the need to "push back" and "prove something" to white people when she has been positioning herself as a "black voice/liberator" is a good one. Why does she care? Of course country people are racist. Who cares what they think? also I wonder how she thought the reception would be? Especially even earlier in the year she was dressed as a black panther at the Super Bowl it was bound to be a bad experience
Popular Post swissman Posted March 20 Popular Post Posted March 20 (edited) The problem with Azealia's Beyoncé "drags" is whatever point she is trying to make gets lost in the abundant conspiracies and misinformation she uses. A good example is her constant desire to attribute Beyoncé's later career to being under Jay-Z's finger. It is both misogynistic and not true. Preferring her work under her father's management is fine, but to suggest that once Beyoncé was her own manager and fully used her OWN production company that it's really Jay-Z who is making her do all that is very weird. More examples come when she disregards the many Black women Beyoncé has collaborated with, just so that she could make a list of the white woman she's worked with (adding one that have never even happened to make it seem like more). In actuality Beyoncé has sung with Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys, Megan thee Stallion, Nicki Minaj (twice), Missy Elliott (three times), Free, MC Lite, Amil, Tems, Grace Jones, Oumou Sangaré, Nija, Busiswa, Yemi Alade, Tierra Whack, Moonchild Sanelly, Kelly Rowland (solo) and Michelle Williams (solo). Things like calling out that Houston in the 1980s wasn't giving "horse and buggy" based on her assessment of 16 CARRIAGES is more evidence of the lack of understanding she shows in her critiques. It's very clear the carriages are tour buses. Why she either didn't get this or pretends not to, I don't know, because she's usually quite brilliant and adept at understanding art. Furthermore, little details like shading Listen for being tacked onto "Dreamgirls" is odd, when movie musicals routinely add original songs for Oscar bait. And calling the title uncreative when it's really one of her most creative titles to date (it being a triple or even quadruple entendre) shows that she either doesn't know much of the subject matter she's discussing, or she is just ignoring it to be able to have quips to state. All in all, the only thing she was correct about was that Suga Mama deserved a Grammy. Edited March 20 by swissman 2 18
professor2000 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 lol @ the amount of people calling out Beyonce success (and Azealias lack thereof)…that's not the point. You can be a commercial failure, but still make a good point or valid critique. But I'm not surprised because stats will always be the go-to for stans as an insult….instead of, you know, having an open mind + actually having an intellectual back-and-forth. Artists aren't infallible, they're people too. And you can still love them despite their faults. Both can be true. 3
Kingdom Posted March 20 Posted March 20 13 minutes ago, Frogger17 said: You can't hijack a genre you helped create. Country as a genre is a mixture of influences. And the ROOT of country goes back to SLAVES on slave ships. Black people originated country music..its foundation. Get it right and do your research
swissman Posted March 20 Posted March 20 10 minutes ago, professor2000 said: lol @ the amount of people calling out Beyonce success (and Azealias lack thereof)…that's not the point. You can be a commercial failure, but still make a good point or valid critique. But I'm not surprised because stats will always be the go-to for stans as an insult….instead of, you know, having an open mind + actually having an intellectual back-and-forth. Artists aren't infallible, they're people too. And you can still love them despite their faults. Both can be true. I agree that we should not be coming for Azealia's sales when we could just come for her words, as so much of what she said is baseless, wrong or simply unfair. 1
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