ATRL Moderation Team Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 This is the second thread to discuss the overthrowing of Roe v. Wade. The last thread was closed due to out of control behavior. To clarify a few things, 1. We believe a woman has the right to choose what to do with her body. If your opinion differs and suggests the government should be in control of those decisions, be warned of blowback from most members. This is not necessarily an argument about your own personal opinion about abortion. 2. Regardless of what side of this issue, responding with death threats is not acceptable. You are welcome to debate, but do not cross the line or else you will receive harsh warnings and/or other penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 4, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2022 Let’s try this again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slik Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Women's Rights If they can get away with this they'll come for gay marriage next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, slik said: Women's Rights If they can get away with this they'll come for gay marriage next Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizon Flame Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, slik said: Women's Rights If they can get away with this they'll come for gay marriage next They’re going for that one too. This court will end up leaving everything to the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTYELLATME Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espresso Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Death threats aren't appropriate but there were some great convos in the last thread. Oh well. Meanwhile.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espresso Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAMJ Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Espresso said: West Coast representing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Paradise Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 lol took 3 posts for someone to shift the convo to gay rights. never change ATRL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espresso Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lost In Paradise said: lol took 3 posts for someone to shift the convo to gay rights. never change ATRL! No shifting conversation. Literally that is the conversation when 50 year precedent is overturned. legal experts across the political spectrum are saying that . Everything’s on the table. Not sure where you’re getting at here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lost In Paradise said: lol took 3 posts for someone to shift the convo to gay rights. never change ATRL! you realize this topic went on for 20+ pages earlier before it got closed, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizon Flame Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said: And the DEMOCRAT governor will probably sign it in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizon Flame Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAP Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Very class warfare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAP Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 A bit too little too late for that isn’t it. Anything to placate critics trying to hold them accountable I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizon Flame Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, DAP said: A bit too little too late for that isn’t it. Anything to placate critics trying to hold them accountable I guess You know they tried this a few months ago, right? It was shot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said: You know they tried this a few months ago, right? It was shot down. By pro-choice Democrats. They have control of the Senate, but what good is that control, really? They're showing themselves incapable of doing anything with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardbrit Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Women's rights.... What about the babies rights? Life is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, hardbrit said: Women's rights.... What about the babies rights? Life is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardbrit Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, infrared said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Kat Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, hardbrit said: This video is misleading, a vast majority of abortions are in the first trimester - and also, medical procedures are not necessarily procedures that are going to be all nice. There are many procedures which are gruesome, that doesn't mean that they are not viable or necessary to be performed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, hardbrit said: Women's rights.... What about the babies rights? Life is important. How can something have rights if it itself cannot survive on its own once removed from its host? Viability isn't even a concept derived re: sentience from those who support women's autonomy. The vast majority of births before the 24-week mark (aka the end of the 2nd trimester as seen in your video) end in death due to unviable health issues because the fetus often simply has not developed to the point of being biologically self-sustaining, let alone sentient and actually a person. If something cannot biologically survive on its own without being tethered physically to another physical being, the autonomy is then that of the pregnant person's, not that of the fetus who cannot survive and develop on its own. Edited May 6, 2022 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bomb Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, hardbrit said: Women's rights.... What about the babies rights? Life is important. Posting twice in different threads for some attention. Its giving mommy issues. Maybe have a convo about it with her??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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