Protocol Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Is this Asereje? EDIT: yes it is, I knew it lmao. It's surprisingly kind of forgotten, somewhat low YouTube and Spotify streams for a song that was so huge and iconic. As for why flop in America, I think American audiences were just not into meme songs at that point. They weren't as easily swayed by syllable nonsense.
dirrtydiana Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 What are we looking at? ot: xenophobia, ignorance, and if it’s asereje: conservative republicans who thought the song was demonic
Ferret Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 This was HUGE in Europe. I cant believe it charted that low in thr US
Jeremiah Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Protocol said: Is this Asereje? EDIT: yes it is, I knew it lmao. It's surprisingly kind of forgotten, somewhat low YouTube and Spotify streams for a song that was so huge and iconic. As for why flop in America, I think American audiences were just not into meme songs at that point. They weren't as easily swayed by syllable nonsense. La Macarena was an enormous hit in the US It didn't only go #1 there but was the #1 song of the year 1996, #2 of the decade, and #8 of all-time And Aserejé is not just gibberish, it's actually cleverly written as the song tells the story of a drugged man dancing to his favorite song at the club, song that actual exists in real life and its what's being mumbled in the chorus.
byzantium Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Why do Europeans always freak out when they realize that not everyone is the same as them.
Protocol Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jeremiah said: La Macarena was an enormous hit in the US It didn't only go #1 there but was the #1 song of the year 1996, #2 of the decade, and #8 of all-time And Aserejé is not just gibberish, it's actually cleverly written as the song tells the story of a drugged man dancing to his favorite song at the club, song that actual exists in real life and its what's being mumbled in the chorus. Right, but La Macarena was a full 7 years before Asereje. What my post said is that Americans weren't into gibberish meme songs AT THAT POINT, aka at the time, in 2002, post-9/11 when hip hop and R&B and rock music ruled. I speak Spanish and I understand the song, but to non-Spanish speaking audiences, aka the United States public, it was gibberish. And the English version was terrible and you couldn't understand what they were saying anyway.
Jeremiah Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, Protocol said: Right, but La Macarena was a full 7 years before Asereje. What my post said is that Americans weren't into gibberish meme songs AT THAT POINT, aka at the time, in 2002, post-9/11 when hip hop and R&B and rock music ruled. I speak Spanish and I understand the song, but to non-Spanish speaking audiences, aka the United States public, it was gibberish. And the English version was terrible and you couldn't understand what they were saying anyway. No, you said "Americans weren't into meme songs," the gibberish part came as a different point, which is still futile if you take into consideration that only 2/3 years before Aserejé, Blue (Da Ba Dee) was a big hit in the US as well (and WW).
Protocol Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeremiah said: No, you said "Americans weren't into meme songs," the gibberish part came as a different point, which is still futile if you take into consideration that only 2/3 years before Aserejé, Blue (Da Ba Dee) was a big hit in the US as well (and WW). No, you are wrong. Read carefully again: 1 hour ago, Protocol said: Is this Asereje? EDIT: yes it is, I knew it lmao. It's surprisingly kind of forgotten, somewhat low YouTube and Spotify streams for a song that was so huge and iconic. As for why flop in America, I think American audiences were just not into meme songs at that point. They weren't as easily swayed by syllable nonsense. "Blue" was a hit in 2000, when bubblegum pop was still huge. The American musical landscape changed massively in the following two years, partly because of 9/11. No one had time for meme music anymore. These are just facts you can choose to accept them or not, but don't tell me I said something when you didn't read my post carefully.
naval23 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 We are tasteless. "Shut Up", "All The Things She Said", "All Good Things (Come to an End)", "White Flag", "Left Outside Alone" all suffered similar fates
period sis Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Protocol said: Right, but La Macarena was a full 7 years before Asereje. What my post said is that Americans weren't into gibberish meme songs AT THAT POINT, aka at the time, in 2002, post-9/11 when hip hop and R&B and rock music ruled. I speak Spanish and I understand the song, but to non-Spanish speaking audiences, aka the United States public, it was gibberish. And the English version was terrible and you couldn't understand what they were saying anyway. I agree as a Spanish speaker too. La Macarena was carried by the dance craze (which granted, Asereje had that too though probably not as popular), and the fact that it was an American remix. Macarena is 10x more catchy as Asereje is - xenophobia, Asereje deserved Macarena's hype tbh. I un-ironically still bop to that album to this day.
Jeremiah Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Protocol said: No, you are wrong. Read carefully again: "Blue" was a hit in 2000, when bubblegum pop was still huge. The American musical landscape changed massively in the following two years, partly because of 9/11. No one had time for meme music anymore. These are just facts you can choose to accept them or not, but don't tell me I said something when you didn't read my post carefully. I'm reading carefully and I quoted you correctly. Is the "at that point" supposed to change anything? The US music landscape moving to a more urban dominated sound didn't negate the existence of viral hits and/or dance crazes Radio may had banned some songs because of 9/11 but people didn't stop having fun And Blue (Da Ba Dee) is eurodance, I don't know what bubblegum pop has to do with anything, I mentioned it because of the gibberish lyrics.
Marianah Adkins Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, byzantium said: Why do Europeans always freak out when they realize that not everyone is the same as them. Girl its not only Europeans. Asereje was huge in Asia and Latin America. It is KINDA weird that the US ignored that phenomenon lmao
Protocol Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jeremiah said: I'm reading carefully and I quoted you correctly. Is the "at that point" supposed to change anything? The US music landscape moving to a more urban dominated sound didn't negate the existence of viral hits and/or dance crazes Radio may had banned some songs because of 9/11 but people didn't stop having fun And Blue (Da Ba Dee) is eurodance, I don't know what bubblegum pop has to do with anything, I mentioned it because of the gibberish lyrics. YES. Yes it did. It literally did. That's what u don't get bb. It literally negated those things. There were no meme dance hits in 2002 in the USA. Reeling from 9/11, the national mood turned aggressive and macho with hip-hop and rock as the soundtrack du jour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2002 And people WERE having fun and bopping.....to hip-hop And Blue (Da Ba Dee) only smashed because the gayer, boppier, euro tinged sound of the time allowed it to fit in alongside the likes of Barbie Girl, Music by Madonna, all the Max Martin hits, etc. It would've stood no chance in 2002.
Totami Legend Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 The way I vividly remember when I stopped singing this song for the demonic allegations
Protocol Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Totami Legend said: The way I vividly remember when I stopped singing this song for the demonic allegations The 2000s were something else Gaga/Beyonce are Illuminati teas
Apolonio ₃₄ Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, byzantium said: Why do Europeans always freak out when they realize that not everyone is the same as them. Right. Very annoying.
Jeremiah Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Protocol said: YES. Yes it did. It literally did. That's what u don't get bb. It literally negated those things. There were no meme dance hits in 2002 in the USA. Reeling from 9/11, the national mood turned aggressive and macho with hip-hop and rock as the soundtrack du jour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2002 And people WERE having fun and bopping.....to hip-hop And Blue (Da Ba Dee) only smashed because the gayer, boppier, euro tinged sound of the time allowed it to fit in alongside the likes of Barbie Girl, Music by Madonna, all the Max Martin hits, etc. It would've stood no chance in 2002. Since when "meme" or viral hits are limited to dance/pop genres? There's several hip-hop viral hits, plenty with dance crazes as well. And 2002's YE is not that different from 2001's, urban sound was already taking over by the time 9/11 happened, but even in 2002 you'll see someone like Kylie Minogue who according to you wouldn't stand a chance... Such weird narrative to push and take at heart this much.
byzantium Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Marianah Adkins said: Girl its not only Europeans. Asereje was huge in Asia and Latin America. It is KINDA weird that the US ignored that phenomenon lmao I mean where is the evidence of that? I just see a bunch of European countries here + Aus&Can. It still was a charting hit in the US. Did it do comparatively better in Japan, India, Brazil, Nigeria, etc?
Marianah Adkins Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, byzantium said: I mean where is the evidence of that? I just see a bunch of European countries here + Aus&Can. It still was a charting hit in the US. Did it do comparatively better in Japan, India, Brazil, Nigeria, etc? Im from SEA and this was a massive hit around second half of 2002. Obv we didnt have charting then (I presume u know this) but the impacT is there and ppl know the song
byzantium Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said: Im from SEA and this was a massive hit around second half of 2002. Obv we didnt have charting then (I presume u know this) but the impacT is there and ppl know the song I am sure people might have heard about it. But even looking at certifications, it did fine in Japan, and I cannot find any Brazilian certification for it. That is all just to say, my overall point is that we live in a diverse world and Europeans really need to stop expecting everyone to be like them.
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