base talk Is Britney spears the reason Pop girls are not respected??

[Cleanromantic]

Britney perpetuated every negative stereotype people associate with pop girls:

- Manufactured voice/ Image.

- frivolous, superficial songs.

- No apparent musical talent. 

- A career based on gimmicks and shock value instead of talent (Over-sexualised teen, snake performance, Madonna kiss)

- Filler-filled discography. 

- Critically panned.

This image of the shallow super star cemented itself in the Gps minds, and Pop Girls often find themselves fighting to be taken seriously inspite of all these hindrances. 

Is this all Britney spears's team fault (I know we can't really blame her since she mostly had nothing to do with her career) ??

Edited May 2, 2022 by Cleanromantic

[D.M.F]

Not all pop girls lack respect like Britney does. Please don’t put all of them in a bubble with her ?!

[Diocles]

My fave is respected so i don't care tbh

 

[Erreur2 La Nature]

Looks like someone or something hurt you 

 

I'm going to say YES because that's what you want to hear 

[TheRealGâteau]

short answer: yes. seeing somebody getting that much attention with zero talents at all tarnished all of pop girl's reputation. 

[Brando]

No, but Britney made it extremely uncool to lip-sync. Her ~10 years of lip-syncing really turned the tide on the matter. 

[dirrtydiana]

5 minutes ago, D.M.F said:

Not all pop girls lack respect like Britney does. Please don’t put all of them in a bubble with her ?!

 

On 4/18/2022 at 6:25 PM, D.M.F said:

Please stop trolling. For the love of God please stop! Ahhhhhhhh!

 

[RajibDavid]

Yes, sadly. 

[Shinning]

I would say so. Luckily we had Beyoncé countering the negative effect Britney had.

[KillingYourCareer]

Pop stars aren't not respected because of Britney Spears, but because people are pretentious and think that anything fun and carefree = shallow and worthless

[Mr. Stratus]

Madonna too before her a bit with her antics. Obviously a female  become an overnight sensation, hugely popular, but being seen to not write a word or singing music live kind of perpetuated what you described with GP and they make the blanket assumption  ‘pop is all a label product’ . But that wasn’t all on Britney no, spice girls got flack (posh) for not being good singers.
 

That’s why Lady Gaga coming on in 2008 doing all those interviews, piano performances etc and scoring the big hits really was the ‘anti’ of the ‘famous for being famous’ and brought a lot back to pop. What should’ve been a other blonde woman lip-synching at first listen to her music, so totally wasn’t

Edited May 2, 2022 by Mr. Stratus

[lestat111]

yes, 0 talent for music, a very little talent for dance and that is it. also, very unpleasent personalitty, somewhat creepy.

[dirrtydiana]

12 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said:

super star cemented itself in the Gps minds, and Pop Girls often find themselves fighting to be taken seriously

BINGO!

 

this is WHY there’s a cesspool with a handful of users who used to get their fix of taking digs at britney in SYG and are outbursting in other threads like

 

 

 

 

they can’t live with the fact someone they see as less than is factually loved, adored and even respected by the real world and people who actually work in the industry. At the end of the day it all comes down to her iconic music which she sang and performed herself 

 

to answer your question, no. There would be no pop girls post 99 without Britney. The lack of respect comes from her clones who failed to have any impact when the smoke and mirrors and trends are gone 

[Diocles]

7 minutes ago, Shinning said:

I would say so. Luckily we had Beyoncé countering the negative effect Britney had.

 

Beyonce lipsyncs too 

 

[dirrtydiana]

4 minutes ago, lestat111 said:

yes, 0 talent for music, a very little talent for dance and that is it. also, very unpleasent personalitty, somewhat creepy.

very unpleasant personality? you must be confusing her with other blonde pop girls.

 

creepy, I’ll give you that you can spin some of her insta posts that way but she’s mostly seem as wholesome and real given it just won some vote based award 

[NausAllien]

I don't think Britney has anything to do with pop stars not being respected.

 

A lot of people, straight men in particular, don't respect pop stars because they don't write their own songs (in many cases) and don't play any instruments (at least live on stage). They don't undersand or respect the way female pop artist choose to express their art on stage. Pop stars are also seems as "manufactured" even if they're really talented.

 

I'd say that Britney definitely didn't help matters with her OBVIOUS lip-syncing. Let's be real, many artists and most our faves lip-sync or have lip-synced at some point. I think Kelly C is the only one I don't remember having lipped off the top of my head. But most artists do it VERY occasionally, only lip certain parts of the song, or pre-record their vocals to sound live (with little to no edit). There are very few that would dare just putting the studio track with even the fade-ins and fade-outs and lip sync to that. It's just too on the nose.

 

 

[Buddy]

It wasn't just Britney, it was the entire blonde bimbofication of the 00s. At the end of the day cultural misogyny is to blame, not Britney.

[Cleanromantic]

1 minute ago, NausAllien said:

I don't think Britney has anything to do with pop stars not being respected.

 

A lot of people, straight men in particular, don't respect pop stars because they don't write their own songs (in many cases) and don't play any instruments (at least live on stage). They don't undersand or respect the way female pop artist choose to express their art on stage. Pop stars are also seems as "manufactured" even if they're really talented.

 

I'd say that Britney definitely didn't help matters with her OBVIOUS lip-syncing. Let's be real, many artists and most our faves lip-sync or have lip-synced at some point. I think Kelly C is the only one I don't remember having lipped off the top of my head. But most artists do it VERY occasionally, only lip certain parts of the song, or pre-record their vocals to sound live (with little to no edit). There are very few that would dare just putting the studio track with even the fade-ins and fade-outs and lip sync to that. It's just too on the nose.

 

 

She even lip-syncs to Sia and Mia Mary vocals sometimes .

[Icarus]

Pretty much yes

 

But Beyonce and Taylor have worked hard to change that  

[dirrtydiana]

2 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said:

She even lip-syncs to Sia and Mia Mary vocals sometimes .

tell us the thread backfired without telling us

 

were you on another planet last year when it all came to light that she was forced upon that situation?

[brazil]

Better questions and answers:

 

Britney molded all pop girls after her? Yes

 

Britney is loved and adored by the public and critics? Yes

 

Losers hated Britney Spears because she was beautiful in 1998-2007? Yes

 

Britney Spears has shown the world you don't have to pretensious to be an A+ list celeb? Yes

 

if your fav ain't respected, that's on your fav not on Britney hun. Pop and dance music always got a lot of hate by pretnsious people who think they're above it, but have the IQ of a chimp, look at "disco sucks" movement, which was also based on racism and homophobia, just like a lot of anti-pop movement is based on sexism

 

Edited May 2, 2022 by brazil

[Kiel D-01]

Partially, yes. Shes definitely one of the least talented amongst her peers. 

[bestfiction]

No, it's just misogyny

[BILLIONAIRE✘BOY]

Pretty much 

[Protocol]

What makes you think pop girls were respected beforehand? They said the same things about Madonna when she first came out. Anything that is girly and feminine and sexual is automatically disrespected. It's misogyny.