Marla Singer Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 If I wasn't already sure that this is racist, the amount of ATRLers tripping over themselves to defend it or play it down would have confirmed it for me. Even if this was somehow not intentional, it's not like this scumbag deserves the benefit of the doubt. He is already a known racist.
boys Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 Some of yall make the weirdest comments and truly expose yourselves when the topic isn't even about you.
BionicWooHoo Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gaia said: There are literal studies that show that black men have the longest average ***** length of all race or ethnic group. You can’t predict someone’s ***** size by their race or ethnicity, but saying black men having bigger penises isn’t backed by science is literally false. Show me one creditable peer reviewed study where it doesn’t involve self reporting. I dare you. There are also a lot of these “studies” where ppl hang weights off of flaccid penises and then based off of how much they stretch, that’s allegedly the length of it erect LMAO. If you can show me a study where you actually have ppl’s erect ***** accurately measured, I’ll literally Venmo you a 100 dollars right now. Side note: It’s literally so disappointing that the American (idk if you’re American so this may not apply to you but this is a general statement) education system teaches ppl practically nothing about research or interpreting statistics. So now we have ppl just randomly believing disinformation just because some bozo on the internet says “b b but there was a study” Edited May 2, 2022 by BionicWooHoo
Seiko Oomori Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Marla Singer said: If I wasn't already sure that this is racist, the amount of ATRLers tripping over themselves to defend it or play it down would have confirmed it for me. Even if this was somehow not intentional, it's not like this scumbag deserves the benefit of the doubt. He is already a known racist. exactly
Mast Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gaia said: There are literal studies that show that black men have the longest average ***** length of all race or ethnic group. You can’t predict someone’s ***** size by their race or ethnicity, but saying black men having bigger penises isn’t backed by science is literally false. The fetishizing of Black men for their inherently large penises is 100% a racist cultural phenomenon, the history of which I already discussed in the previous page, if care to read. Also many of the studies you're referring to are hella old actually relied on self-reported size, meaning their accuracy is probably not great. More recent studies that have actually measured each individual's ***** have found that the difference in ***** size between races is not that significant; literally millimeters to a couple centimeters in difference. One recent study, for example, found that the average ***** size of Black Americans was 14.75cm versus 14.5 centimeters for White Americans. Aka, a difference of 5.8 inches vs 5.7 inches. Yes, the average ***** size of Black men is under 6 inches just like it is for all men. So yes, the idea that Black men carry abnormally large penises, a trope that you and I well know is often played up in straight and gay porn, is absolutely racist. Edited May 2, 2022 by Mast
youcallingmyname Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 Not this racist, washed up gremlin again i thought we left his ass in 2020 a side note fetishing black men is racist and not a compliment
youcallingmyname Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Homebrand said: People still stanning Jeffree in 2022 is the most surprising thing here White gays will stan anyone who reminds them of their youth and good days, no matter how mediocre or shitty the person is
swissman Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 I am shocked to find out this is from ... TODAY. I saw it on Twitter earlier and thought someone was just revisiting a [clearly] racist image they had put out before, but wtf, in 2022, after all that "I'm not racist" apologizing Jeffree's done...how stupid (to try and capitalize off the obvious backlash) or ignorant (to have not even known there would be a problem). Though I think it's the former (trying to capitalize) which is even worse.
swissman Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Papa said: Yall honestly just be complaining about anything at this point. There is nothing racist about that. Banana has been used as a metaphor for D since history began. You are just forcing some monkey narrative on it when there is none there at all, you are the actual racists for that. There is actual racist crap going on in the world and this is not that. You guys don't even know if those men are black, they could be white guys with tans, not that it would matter um, there are like, multiple things racist about this photo. even if these men are white guys with tans, the appearance they have is of brown/dark/black skin, thus the connotation is there. if they want them to be seen as white, they'd have included their faces. it sounds like you should do a little bit of research on the racist depictions of Black people (especially in America) and the stereotypes, derogatory names and overall fetishization/fear of them for certain perceived physical attributes.
swissman Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Kayseri Mantisi said: Nothing in the pic except Jeffree's face is real, it's 3D art. How do y'all see black man and bananas and connect those as “monkeys” ? That's literally more ridiculous. Racism shouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind when you see this pic, it's just ugly looking at most. The collection is yellow and it's called Banana Fetish like what did you expect there to be ? Strawberries ? Also I don't even like or follow him, just my thoughts. If I saw this on my IG feed “wtf so racist” wouldn't be the first thing I think. Overusing of the word “racist” makes it lose it's meaning for real racism out there. 12 hours ago, makeme said: This. Like I actually think it's racist to see this and relate it to black people. I have never in my life linked black people , Bananas , and Monkeys together and y'all are weird as **** for doing so. Jeffery is still trash tho Identifying existing racist tropes is not the same as being racist. If the collection is called "Banana Fetish" then maybe they could have made it about actually fetishizing bananas. They don't need strawberries. They don't need Black bodies. They need bananas. Instead what they've done is drawn a line from the fetishization of bananas (as per the title) to the fetishization of a certain part of Black men, as evidenced by the enlarged naked men around Jeffree and the very clear allusion to oral sex which is being shown. If you personally don't see the racism in this image, but others do, why are they automatically wrong? Did you not stop for a second to think, "I should find out why people are saying its racist" instead of telling people it's not?
itsmee Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 look im white and some of you are playing dumb this obvs has some racist undertones jefree is sleazy he purposely used white models that at first glance look sort of black so when sh hits the fan he is going to play dumb and act like it was a big coincidence he is using outrage to try gather controversy and sales
itsmee Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 look im white and some of you are playing dumb this obvs has some racist undertones jefree is sleazy he purposely used white models that at first glance look sort of black so when sh hits the fan he is going to play dumb and act like it was a big coincidence he is using outrage to try gather controversy and sales
Jay07 Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, swissman said: Identifying existing racist tropes is not the same as being racist. If the collection is called "Banana Fetish" then maybe they could have made it about actually fetishizing bananas. They don't need strawberries. They don't need Black bodies. They need bananas. Instead what they've done is drawn a line from the fetishization of bananas (as per the title) to the fetishization of a certain part of Black men, as evidenced by the enlarged naked men around Jeffree and the very clear allusion to oral sex which is being shown. If you personally don't see the racism in this image, but others do, why are they automatically wrong? Did you not stop for a second to think, "I should find out why people are saying its racist" instead of telling people it's not?
Frappucino Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 I honestly got furry vibes at first, like he'd swallow a literal monkey's banana Cause those arent real men right? Its all digital except Jeffree right? But yeah knowing his past he probably did this intentionally to cause controversy so it does have racist implications even if his defense were to be "those are supposed to be monkeys not men"
Jack. Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 13 hours ago, Coconuts said: the fact that you actually pressed “submit reply” on this post is embarassing tell me you’re racist without telling me you’re racist Nope you are not going to tell me I’m racist because I know I’m not. I love and appreciate every human being and love and embrace all cultures - thank you very much! What I don’t appreciate is leftist and woke culture trying to divide people by made up narratives that originate in their fantasy land minds. Nope.
Theshigo Washidu Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Those men are definitely tanned white men, but the insinuation of what he's really trying to portray is definitely noticeable. People need to not feed it attention.
L.B GAGA Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 5:57 AM, Price of Fame said: i'm confused, what is racist about this drag him though or whatever idc all this and as a black person i see no wrong but a hot photoshoot.
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted May 3, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted May 3, 2022 Imagine defending Jefree freaking Star...
Misguided Ghost Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 The fact that he still has a career after being exposed so many times is the biggest tragedy.
Severus Snape Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 I hate him, and if you also hate this rat too cool. But stop using racism as a way to bring down people. This clearly isn't racist. The people on the picture aren't even black, you can see its white tan skin (bodybuilder physique mr Olympia type) and are basically CGI not real models If you label everything you don't like as racist and flip things and arguments to fit your tear-down it leaves other racist situations less important in comparison.
MusicandSoul Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Why isnt this individual cancelled? Who works on these shoots?? I rarely use hate as a word, but for this individual its alot.
Bubble Tea Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 The reach. (and I think he's trash and would love to drag - but... yeah, this is something I'll leave to terminally online SJWs)
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