aesthetic bih Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Apple has secured their fanbase. It's gonna take a LOT for Apple to piss them off and drive them away. so good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeblock Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I love this presenter, but she's ignoring that Apple's silicone kinda ended Intel & AMD at their own game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Materialboy215 Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, modeblock said: I love this presenter, but she's ignoring that Apple's silicone kinda ended Intel & AMD at their own game. I love her too, she's really great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Materialboy215 said: Even Motorola did something exciting reintroducing The new all touchscreen flip Razr. and how is that going Edited April 29, 2022 by Delusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Materialboy215 Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Delusional said: and how is that going IDK I don't keep up with phone sales. My point being is that at least other companies are trying new and exciting things and not just resting on what they did in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7thStranger Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Apple won't be the next Nokia because they haven't made a Nokia-sized error, i.e., Windows Phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Nokia doesn't have a cult fanbase and ecosystem like Apple The Katy Perry of phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Megamind Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Apple Is constantly innvovating. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rami Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 15 hours ago, hausofdave said: they just hit another all time high during today’s earnings calls beating Wall St’s expectation again despite a slower growth; accumulating record breaking revenue in services & not to mention becoming the first streaming company to win an Oscar for BP https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/apple-q2-2022-services-revenue-iphone-1235253590/ Revenues might be higher, because their prices vs. BOM costs, OT: I don't think Apple will be the new Nokia, Apple branched out and it's services revenue is increasing, so yeah their smartphones maturation stage might have been reached, but Apple branched out in many lines of business I think they will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchyisback Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) Once China gets sanctioned I hope every investors sues Tim Cook for the company losses when the CCP confiscates their factories and Apple can’t produce enough phone for months on end. I bought Apple stocks just so I can sue the b@stars when that happens. That guy is worst than Merkel. Its been clear for 5 years now that the US government plans to decouple with China on the tech side. The writings on the wall. yet He still keep investing there. When **** hit the fan,NOBODY is gonna stand for Apple getting a bail out. He needs to end up in jail for failing his fiduciary duties toward the share holders. Edited April 30, 2022 by frenchyisback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted April 30, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2022 Who would overtake Apple though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Mistakes Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Apple has mastered the ecosystem and trapping people in said ecosystem. If I were to move to android, my watch would no longer work with my phone and the seamless conveniences of using Mac and iPad alongside the iPhone would go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Snape Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 hours ago, khalyan said: Who would overtake Apple though? I don't think it needs to be overtaken tho. The apple fever is slowing down, Apple right now makes phones for two people: those who want a cheaper but trendy colourful phone and those who don't mind paying x2 the price for an slightly better version. The people who want cheaper iPhones aren't fans at all, so they can make their minds and go for other options if one rises in popularity. The ones who will keep apple afloat will be the ones who pay 1.500€ for their ''pro/plus/max'' phones. When you aren't treated as a top costumer on a brand its easy that you leave. If your phone is advertised as a cheaper option you will be most likely to go to another brand for the same price whose phone you own is their top product. And thats already happening with Xiaomi, Huawei and even Samsung and LG. 13 hours ago, frenchyisback said: Once China gets sanctioned I hope every investors sues Tim Cook for the company losses when the CCP confiscates their factories and Apple can’t produce enough phone for months on end. I bought action with Apple just so I can sue the b@stars when that happens. That guy is worst than Merkel. Its been clear for 5 years now that the US government plans to decouple with China on the tech side. The writings on the wall. yet He still keep investing there. When **** hit the fan,NOBODY is gonna stand for Apple getting a bail out. He needs to end up in jail for failing his fiduciary duties toward the share holders. Tim Cook wanted to stop investing in innovation and started investing in marketing gimmicks to deliver short term profits instead of the long term vision Steve jobs had. Apple was never meant to be a brand for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Anything can happen, but I don't see it for the next 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchyisback Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Severus Snape said: I don't think it needs to be overtaken tho. The apple fever is slowing down, Apple right now makes phones for two people: those who want a cheaper but trendy colourful phone and those who don't mind paying x2 the price for an slightly better version. The people who want cheaper iPhones aren't fans at all, so they can make their minds and go for other options if one rises in popularity. The ones who will keep apple afloat will be the ones who pay 1.500€ for their ''pro/plus/max'' phones. When you aren't treated as a top costumer on a brand its easy that you leave. If your phone is advertised as a cheaper option you will be most likely to go to another brand for the same price whose phone you own is their top product. And thats already happening with Xiaomi, Huawei and even Samsung and LG. Tim Cook wanted to stop investing in innovation and started investing in marketing gimmicks to deliver short term profits instead of the long term vision Steve jobs had. Apple was never meant to be a brand for everyone. I agree Steve Job was an innovator. Tim Cook is a banker. The idea that they’re now a service company with growth focus on selling a bunch of basic accessories, dumb gimmicks to sell more chargers, focus on fee base services, overcharge for everything… Take back his gay card! We don’t claim ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Snape Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, frenchyisback said: I agree Steve Job was an innovator. Tim Cook is a banker. The idea that they’re now a service company with growth focus on selling a bunch of basic accessories, dumb gimmicks to sell more chargers, focus on fee base services, overcharge for everything… Take back his gay card! We don’t claim ha! true, he also is damaging the Apple mythology. They used to be the best in each sector, the iPhone iPad and Mac were the best on each of their categories. But ever since expanding they have become #2 in more than one sector (the Siri pod vs Alexa, AM vs Spotify, Apple TV vs all the other streaming services, etc.) next generation won't see apple as a standout brand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Severus Snape said: true, he also is damaging the Apple mythology. They used to be the best in each sector, the iPhone iPad and Mac were the best on each of their categories. But ever since expanding they have become #2 in more than one sector (the Siri pod vs Alexa, AM vs Spotify, Apple TV vs all the other streaming services, etc.) next generation won't see apple as a standout brand Those branches of services doesn't matter looking at overall marketshare because they aren't directed towards all consumers and like you said, Apple isn't for everyone. It's meant for a closed ecosystem and exclusivity. Although AM and Apple TV are available for everyone including Androids, it's simply made for convenience and works the best on its own products. And they are definitely behind Spotify and other streaming services in overall userbase, but are also newer services. I personally wouldn't use Spotify on Apple products because Apple Music is more seamlessly accessible for me on my devices. Plus the sound quality is superior and the UI/UX design is more pleasing to my eyes, it makes me feel like I own a library of music. And I don't think Apple TV is there to compete with giants like Netflix and HBO Max, it's a very niche platform for Apple users that's free or $5/month and also has a great consistent catalogue that won Emmys and Oscars. The philosophy of Apple TV is different, it's almost entirely original content and don't purchase rights of existing shows to go at war with other households. Apple's greatest innovation is the ecosystem. It's a curated walled garden and people have preferences that work for them. I feel like Apple has always been like this at its core if we're looking at how much Windows and Android controls the global market and how Apple has always deviated from how everyone else operates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arceus Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Not a fan of Apple but Apple literally has the most integrated ecosystem ever. Nokia couldn't relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertiffany Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 LOL Nokia has always been about HARDWARE Apple is about EXPERIENCE that's the main difference, that's why more than a decade, Apple is still slaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertiffany Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 On 4/30/2022 at 9:27 AM, khalyan said: Who would overtake Apple though? none, because no other company even tried to learn from Apple's seamless experience and simplicity, they've been all about gimmicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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