celeb news Harry Styles dragged and viral after latest interview

[State of Grace.]

not someone comparing us telling Harry to stop with the obvious queerbaiting to ******* sexism

[AMIT]

1 minute ago, Miichael said:

But he doesn't owe you ****  You don't own dresses and nail polish just because you are queer. Please feel free to join us in the real world at your earliest convienience

He is parading around with actual pride flags during his concerts, the clothes/accessories are not the main thing. What's not clicking? 

[Trent W]

3 minutes ago, AMIT said:

Yeah, Harry is the victim in all of this. 

 

We are not entitled to know that (or anything else!) about him, but he is the one parading around in queer aesthetics while not being up front about wheter or not he is (OR ISN'T) part of the QUEER community. Have you ever asked yourself why that is? 

 

Some of his own stans have slipped the potential main reason in this very thread yet y'all still fail to give it the proper attention. Why?

You don’t own his aesthetics or his dresses lmao.

 

The wrong thing here is really telling him how to act or dress.

 

Even if he was completely straight, which we’ll never know, he can dress feminine and it wouldn’t be wrong.

[305]

He's not hurting anybody and the people yelling at him to claim a sexuality are actually sick and reek of entitlement, he doesn't have to do anything. 

Chronically online losers

[Mr. Mendes]

It’s always “express yourself however you like” until someone does it in a way you don’t like. He doesn’t owe me, you, or anyone anything, especially not a label. 

 

I don’t understand the gatekeeping. Has the goal all along not been to normalize men wearing clothing traditionally associated with only females, normalize painted nails, normalizing men being able to be feminine? If that has been the goal why is it only okay when a gay man does it? Does that not just other the LGBTQ+ community even further? 

[Trent W]

1 minute ago, AMIT said:

He is parading around with actual pride flags during his concerts, the clothes/accessories are not the main thing. What's not clicking? 

 

Omg how evil, he is supporting the community.

 

[Ciel]

15 minutes ago, James_Dean said:

I'm sorry, but I can't take these critics seriously when they are the same people constantly calling Shawn Mendes a ****** despite the numerous times he's said otherwise.

The hypocritical outrage is not surprising from Atrl  

This is kinda tea....

[Hephaestus]

30 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Its so hilarious how ACTUAL gay people don't see the problem here  

 

 

This is his dating history + he has NO PROBLEM singing about eating p*ssy, talking about preferring older women, and not dating anyone but cis women for an eternity. But when it's about men suddenly its crickets and "I hate labels. Labels are ew! I don't wanna label my sexuality! We should all be free! <333" bullsh*t.

 

You can like his music (I do love both his debut and Fine Line) and still find this icky and kinda gross. Especially when he gets lauded and applauded for saying and displaying things ACTUAL queer people have to suffer (Sam Smith and Lil Nas for instance and MANY more). Like are yall really that blind omg.  

My thoughts exactly 

[gatito]

2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

not someone comparing us telling Harry to stop with the obvious queerbaiting to ******* sexism

he should dress in a tuxedo at all times and stop with this fa66ot **** that makes you so uncomfortable, gotcha 

[BloodLuster]

the mental gymnastics trying to defend this deluded clown 

[AMIT]

Just now, Trent W said:

 

Omg how evil, he is supporting the community.

 

But Is he a part of the community, or not? Most straight people who are allys of the community have no problem saying just that, so why does he? 

[Da Vinci]

3 minutes ago, Trent W said:

They are asking him to address his sexuality in public which is 10x worse.

That's 10x worse than sexism?

 

2 minutes ago, Miichael said:

but what you are essentially saying is "if you are going to continue wearing dresses, you owe us an explanation on how you identify!" when the reality is... he doesn't. Some of y'all just have no idea what boundaries are and your brain cells have been fried by the echo chamber of social media

 

It's not just about the dresses

as i said, no one gives bad bunny any crap about his dresses aside from homophobes

 

it'd be fine if harry doesn't make references to his sexuality as others have posted videos of

but the fact that he PUBLICLY does means he's making his sexuality PUBLIC and purposely blurs that line and made that his brand

 

"fried by the echo chamber of social media" the projection  

[gatito]

2 minutes ago, AMIT said:

He is parading around with actual pride flags during his concerts, the clothes/accessories are not the main thing. What's not clicking? 

people hand him those flags cause they feel SAFE at his shows  cause he creates an enviroment where people are encouraged to be themselves

 

what's he supposed to do with those, throw them away? burn them? 

[Trent W]

Just now, AMIT said:

But Is he a part of the community, or not? Most straight people who are allys of the community have no problem saying just that, so why does he? 

Why does he have to state that?

[gatito]

1 minute ago, BloodLuster said:

the mental gymnastics trying to defend this deluded clown 

i see some swifties still salty about Harry dating Taylor almost a decade ago leave this man and (Jake Gylenhaal) alone

[feelslikeadream]

2 hours ago, Severus Snape said:

she was performing at a pride event while promoting her album that was targeted to the LGBT community 

 

2 hours ago, storminthedark said:

please tell me what a "queer" outfit is without blatantly referring to either homophobic stereotypes or the stereotypes the community claims to want to break down between traditional ideas of masculinity and femininity? he's waved the pride flags for years. he's donated to queer charities, bought from queer businesses, supported queer artists, supports queer people in the industry and generally uplifts the community??

I feel like y'all both missed my point, but in opposite ways

 

I understand the context of the Taylor pic and know every lyric on Lover. (Though calling it "an album targeted to the LGBT community" is very disingenuous. The second single? Sure. But not the whole album.)

 

My point:

- A colorful outfit = not explicitly queer

- A bisexuality pride flag = explicitly queer

 

 I was making a very simple point. Taylor supports queer fans through her lyrics and statements about equality, which is different from adopting explicit queer iconography, for example, waving the bisexual pride flag at a concert.

[Abracadabra]

2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

I am not deciding who is queer and who is not and I am not gatekeeping queerness  I am just annoyed that his ambiguousness and his whole "I am not labeling myself!" shtick makes it seem like he is a part of the queer community while he's profiting of the millions of years of struggles that we have endured (and still do) as a community. Its cringey, gross marketing.

 

You can say you aren't gatekeeping queerness... but the reality is, you are  Just because you are an openly queer person doesn't mean that you get to dictate the rules of being queer for every other person in the world and mandate that people must fully disclose their sexual identity. It's a very strange phenomenon, one of that really only exists online. Perhaps Harry doesn't label himself because that's how he feels comfortable and he genuinely doesn't identify with any particular labels. You don't need to have a track record of dating the same sex or openly identify yourself as a particular sexuality to be queer.

[Trent W]

1 minute ago, Da Vinci said:

That's 10x worse than sexism?

 

Telling a person to state their sexuality in public can be traumatic and it’s extremely invasive

 

This isn’t even about Harry anymore, if we normalize this it will become extremely dangerous for other people.

[AMIT]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said:

It’s always “express yourself however you like” until someone does it in a way you don’t like. He doesn’t owe me, you, or anyone anything, especially not a label. 

 

I don’t understand the gatekeeping. Has the goal all along not been to normalize men wearing clothing traditionally associated with only females, normalize painted nails, normalizing men being able to be feminine? If that has been the goal why is it only okay when a gay man does it? Does that not just other the LGBTQ+ community even further? 

The ''gatekeeping'' (which is SO ironic btw, when we, the QUEER people are the ones who have been gatekept from many normal lives things by the cishet majority for YEARSSSS) is because he gets to have to benefits of said community with basically none of the detriments. I'm not the first one making this statement in this thread, yet it still remains unaddressed. Why? 

[BloodLuster]

2 minutes ago, gatito said:

i see some swifties still salty about Harry dating Taylor almost a decade ago leave this man and (Jake Gylenhaal) alone

of course you had to resort to that stupid ass argument 

[Abracadabra]

3 minutes ago, Da Vinci said:

It's not just about the dresses

as i said, no one gives bad bunny any crap about his dresses aside from homophobes

 

it'd be fine if harry doesn't make references to his sexuality as others have posted videos of

but the fact that he PUBLICLY does means he's making his sexuality PUBLIC and purposely blurs that line and made that his brand

 

"fried by the echo chamber of social media" the projection  

So because he waves a pride flag and sometimes wears feminine clothing that means that you, a total stranger, is owed information and an explanation about his sex life?  Truly unbelievable.

 

Again, why do you feel entitled to know Harry's sexuality? What is it within you that makes you feel you have that right? Please explain because it's very strange

[AMIT]

3 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Why does he have to state that?

He doesn't. But then the criticism of him not being an out queer man yet using queer aesthetics and pride flags for his own gain stands and there's nothing y'all can do about it.

 

I have to say all the energy to defend this white rich STRAIGHT man is interesting, though. 

[James_Dean]

10 minutes ago, AMIT said:

He is parading around with actual pride flags during his concerts, the clothes/accessories are not the main thing. What's not clicking? 

 you damn well know what would happen if he ignored those flags 

[Abracadabra]

10 minutes ago, AMIT said:

He is parading around with actual pride flags during his concerts, the clothes/accessories are not the main thing. What's not clicking? 

So holding a pride flag is now reserved only for people who openly discuss their sexuality identity with strangers?   Dresses and accessories aside, you don't own the pride flag either just because you are open about your sexuality. It isn't some exclusive club that you gain membership to once you publicly disclose your sexual identity. Like how did y'all get so brainwashed wth

[gatito]

if i have to read QUEER AESTHETICS one more time istg