Johnny Jacobs Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: mirren: golda 51% f9 58% Β colman: joyride 45% empire of light 54% Β Β Girl stop its confirmedΒ
Dark Phoenix Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 I need the trailer! We already have ones for Flash, Transformers, Indiana Jones which are all being released in June so I guess next month we could get the first trailer.
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted February 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted February 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Dark Phoenix said: I need the trailer! We already have ones for Flash, Transformers, Indiana Jones which are all being released in June so I guess next month we could get the first trailer. It is kind of interesting that they havenβt released one yet, especially given that Oppenheimer (which is opening against this) already has one out (one with a lot of views I might add). Perched for a proper first look though, have high hopes for this!Β
V$. Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Β https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/uat8vy9d5a39oaxdfwmlmd3fm4k6ml Β
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) I still have a feeling this movie is going to bomb with general audiences even if it is well received critically. Kids are going to be turned off because so far this feels way too adult leaning satire to appeal (like what children are losing their **** over stunt casting Olivia Colman and Helen Mirren playing themselves? Who is this for?!), whilst adults seeing the marketing so far will think it automatically too camp and aimed at young audiences β because itβs Barbie. Β Margot Robbie not known for being a comedienne also makes it harder to pin point what genre they are going for β adult comedy? Family friendly movie based on the toy? Itβs giving The Stepford Wives (2004). Β Regardless of what people think of Amy Schumer you know exactly what her Barbie would have been and would have been far easier to sell as an adult comedy. Probably wouldnβt have made a lot of money either but wouldnβt be a $100m sinkhole. Like this being positioned as a summer blockbuster is so bemusing but Iβm here for it. Edited March 1, 2023 by Jessie
TheFireLexus Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Jessie said: Kids are going to be turned off because so far this feels way too adult leaning satire to appeal (like what children are losing their **** over stunt casting Olivia Colman and Helen Mirren playing themselves? Who is this for?!), As if kids know enough about them to care either way. Little girls will see barbie and bright colours and rush to the theatres with no concern for who the actors are. Β 2 hours ago, Jessie said: Margot Robbie not known for being a comedienne also makes it harder to pin point what genre they are going for β adult comedy? Family friendly movie based on the toy? The Lego movie saw huge success doing both. Just last summer Minions made close to a billion dollars straddling the same lines. It's not really that bizarre a prospect.
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheFireLexus said: As if kids know enough about them to care either way. Little girls will see barbie and bright colours and rush to the theatres with no concern for who the actors are. Β The Lego movie saw huge success doing both. Just last summer Minions made close to a billion dollars straddling the same lines. It's not really that bizarre a prospect. Do you seriously think Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling cosplaying as Barbie and Ken are going to have the same pull with families as the minions?Β Β Β Youβre comparing this live action satire featuring zero known comedian draws to two cleanly marketed animated movies aimed squarely at families? And now Iβm seeing from the test screenings that this is supposed to be a studio comedy with a PG13 rating? When was the last time a studio comedy was a four quadrant success? Let alone one that is as scattershot in tone or audience appeal as this one? Β Like I am very much excited to see this, but whoever thought this should be a $100m tentpole I would like to have whatever theyβre smoking because unless this trailer provides a clearer hook for audiences than βhereβs Margot Robbie winking at the cameraβ this is about to be be the bomb of the summer.Β Edited March 1, 2023 by Jessie
Frozen99 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Jessie said: Margot Robbie not known for being a comedienne i mean, not comedian but she's known for harley which has many comedic chops (tho birds of prey was a flop). but yeah the marketing for this is all over the place, not really sure who's the target audience, young / older gays and women? either way, i'm excited for what greta came up with.
JustHoran Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Personally I am super excited to see this Β However, unless women and gays come through then yeah this is probably going to bomb considering it's expensive.
JustHoran Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 The gays will definitely support this more than they did Bros tbhΒ
pigeon Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 This is not a family movie though. People who attended the test screening said there are sexual jokes and innuendos. Trailer really had Kubrick references for god's sake. Who thinks this is for children?
KaledKalil Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 I would say that the demographic target is the same as it would be for a romcom, women about 25, to 34/40 yo, who grew up with barbie from the 80s and 90s and want to see her on the big screen. It's not gonna do numbers at all.
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, pigeon said: This is not a family movie though. People who attended the test screening said there are sexual jokes and innuendos. Trailer really had Kubrick references for god's sake. Who thinks this is for children? And you really think this is going to have wide enough appeal among adults alone to make profit on a $100m budget? Do you think Warner Bros really arenβt expecting this to have four quadrant appeal? What from the marketing so far suggests itβs not for a family audienceΒ a la Enchanted aside from have A Space Odyssey references that everything from The Simpsons to Rugrats has parodied at some point. Because God knows it wasnβt until I read the test screen reactions that I had any idea it was going to have any kind of raunch or be PG13. Β Can you even name the last hit studio comedy? Β Β Edited March 1, 2023 by Jessie
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, KaledKalil said: I would say that the demographic target is the same as it would be for a romcom, women about 25, to 34/40 yo, who grew up with barbie from the 80s and 90s and want to see her on the big screen. It's not gonna do numbers at all. All Barbie films so far been animated and aimed at children, do you really think women 25+ are clamouring to see a live action Barbie on the big screen? Β Like listen it sounds like Iβm hating but Iβm just honestly bemused that Warner Bros has spent $$$ and giving summer tentpole status to Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbachβs swing but more power to them. Iβll be there opening weekend flop or not but then Iβm someone who is excited to see Gerwigβs next film, Iβm not the Gee PeeΒ
KaledKalil Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Jessie said: All Barbie films so far been animated and aimed at children, do you really think women 25+ are clamouring to see a live action Barbie on the big screen? Β Like listen it sounds like Iβm hating but Iβm just honestly bemused that Warner Bros has spent $$$ and giving summer tentpole status to Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbachβs swing but more power to them. Iβll be there opening weekend flop or not but then Iβm someone who is excited to see Gerwigβs next film, Iβm not the Gee PeeΒ The ones that played with dolls as kids, yeah. And maybe bring their kids with them, but I don't see the public democratic being kids. That's why they do animation barbie movies for, to sell their dolls. Β As I said, it's not gonna be a success, maybe a cult camp classic in 10 years.Β
pigeon Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, Jessie said: And you really think this is going to have wide enough appeal among adults alone to make profit on a $100m budget? Do you think Warner Bros really arenβt expecting this to have four quadrant appeal? What from the marketing so far suggests itβs not for a family audienceΒ a la Enchanted aside from have A Space Odyssey references that everything from The Simpsons to Rugrats has parodied at some point. Because God knows it wasnβt until I read the test screen reactions that I had any idea it was going to have any kind of raunch or be PG13. Β Can you even name the last hit studio comedy? Β Β Barbie is literally 60 years old, there are multiple adult generations who grow up with this brand. This should be considered as a franchise, rather than stand alone comedy film. Greta has a great track record, the film has a starry ensemble cast, it is light and breezy so perfect for the summer, there will be probably a bunch of make-up, clothing etc. collabs. I am not saying this will gross 1B$Β but why wouldn't turn a good profit? Β
TheFireLexus Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Jessie said: Do you seriously think Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling cosplaying as Barbie and Ken are going to have the same pull with families as the minions?Β Do you seriously think I was suggesting that or are you just making a facetious argument for the sake of it? Simmer down.
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, TheFireLexus said: Do you seriously think I was suggesting that or are you just making a facetious argument for the sake of it? Simmer down. I wasnβt the one who made the comparison in the first place but sure!
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, pigeon said: Barbie is literally 60 years old, there are multiple adult generations who grow up with this brand. This should be considered as a franchise, rather than stand alone comedy film. Greta has a great track record, the film has a starry ensemble cast, it is light and breezy so perfect for the summer, there will be probably a bunch of make-up, clothing etc. collabs. I am not saying this will gross 1B$Β but why wouldn't turn a good profit? Β The best recent comparison I can think of is The Lost City; made $190.8 on a $68m budget and was the 20th highest grossing Hollywood film WW of last year. Β However that movie also being just as much action/adventure helped, was far more transparent in its marketing and Sandra Bullock decades in the game is still a bigger Box Office draw than Margot Robbie. Same with Channing Tatum compared to Ryan Gosling. Β I donβt know, even if it did those numbers, I donβt think with a higher production budget, a prime Summer release (and a teaser trailer attached to Avatar) that result will be considered much of a win or with the additional marketing costs this will be enough to turn a profit. Β I think it will do less than Ticket to Paradise. The whole trying to keep the plot under wraps things is not helping, this new trailer really needs to sell whatever the story is.
Gui Blackout Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 How many times it needs to be said this is not going to be a kiddie movie? It's an adult comedy/satire.
Da Vinci Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 I think the target demo are teenagers, the TikTok crowd, Mean Girls stans, etc. Moviegoers aren't just children and boomers Β That being said, it's really hard to predict how this will do but that's cause we only have one teaser We need a couple more trailers and some clips
Jessie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Gui Blackout said: How many times it needs to be said this is not going to be a kiddie movie? It's an adult comedy/satire. Tell the marketing team that and quickly.
Gui Blackout Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jessie said: Tell the marketing team that and quickly. What have they released that suggest kiddie movie to you? Certainly wasn't the teaser
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