discussion What's the most obvious exemple of Poptism ?

[Johnny Jacobs]

Future Nostalgia.. It's a great record but very faceless. 

[Casino Oasis]

21 hours ago, TrueBlood said:

It's Carly Rae's fault for releasing the best pop album known to mankind. After Emotion, suddenly pop music became a critics favourite. The poppier, the better.

The funny thing is that even though E•MO•TION's MC score of 77 was impressive back in 2015, it's kinda average for today's standards. Especially when you consider it's placement in several Year-End and Decade-End lists.

 

I'm sure if it were released today, it'll get at least 84

[GraceRandolph]

Adele’s 30 getting an 80+ score when 21 is in the mid-70s. 

[TrueBlood]

7 hours ago, Casino Oasis said:

The funny thing is that even though E•MO•TION's MC score of 77 was impressive back in 2015, it's kinda average for today's standards. Especially when you consider it's placement in several Year-End and Decade-End lists.

 

I'm sure if it were released today, it'll get at least 84

Yep, it's really ridiculous when you think about it. By the actual praise it got in the end, it should be 90+, comparing it to an album like Future Nostalgia, for example, which has a 87/88 score.

[Atlantis]

thank u next and SOUR I guess but there are so many examples. Honestly the better question is which album did not benefit from it. DISCO by Kylie deserves way higher score and the last Banks album having ''only'' 69 makes no sense now that everyone gets at least 75+. Never listened to Smile by Katy but I doubt its that much worse than a selena gomez/demi lovato album

Edited April 28, 2022 by Atlantis

[RockStarShit101]

Poptism is a good thing, IMO.

[Gerardo]

Lover 

30

Solar Power (it would’ve been in the red if it released years ago)

reputation (same as SP)

DW

HTE (still don’t get how is it higher than her debut) 

[raven]

feel like this should be in the base 

 

OT: Definitely SOUR 

[Cruel Summer]

Future Nostalgia, 30, HTE

[Billionaire]

SOUR

[Before Today]

On 4/27/2022 at 2:48 AM, smartalek22 said:

I still don't know what Poptism is can someone explain

Pop nepotism or favoritism probably

[Alyssa Edwards]

On 4/29/2022 at 5:59 AM, Gerardo said:

HTE (still don’t get how is it higher than her debut) 

Thank you !!!!

I mean it's not bad music by any means but her debut is CLEARLY better written and just miles above overral to me.

[KillingYourCareer]

On 4/26/2022 at 6:44 PM, TaylorNation said:

those generic and faceless Selena Gomez albums getting any sort of positive reviews

And if you actually read the reviews it's 90% about her personal life and 10% superficial descriptions of the songs anyone could make

[karron0624]

On 4/26/2022 at 3:21 PM, gustavothehuman said:

Rare getting a +70 on Metacritic.

Anything by Camila getting a +70 on Metacritic.

Future Nostalgia getting a +80 on Metacritic.

Sour getting a +80 on Metacritic.

The truth is that critical acclaim = fan base most likely to send you death threats nowadays. Hence why Ed Sheeran, Imagine Dragons and other GP-oriented artists get bullied left and right. As a Swiftie it would be hypocrite of me to say Taylor didn't benefited from that, but I think her only overrated album was Lover. Folklore, Evermore and Red all deserved their +80 scores, I would add 1989 in that group too.

 

Not when lover had:

 

1. Cruel slayage

2. The Gods

3. miss Americana and Jesus

4. Cornelia Heaven

5. Death by the Holyspirit

6. Soon you’ll get saved (ft. The disciples)

7. False God

8.  Daychurch

 

Lover is a solid album, and deserves praise.

 

 

[frenchyisback]

On 4/26/2022 at 1:00 PM, G.U.Y_Del_Rey said:

 

 

It seems that these days any girl at her peak can get "universal acclaim", back in the 2000s and early 2010s, these albums would've been lucky to scrap a 70. Honestly if feels like the redneck reviewers really fear the gay stans of these girls.

It’s the Stan culture & social media.

 

Back then, stans could not organize on Twitter to harass reporters who dared to criticize their faves.

 

Also, the media was less driven by online advertisements, so they were not as desperate for click bait with positive reviews.

Edited May 2, 2022 by frenchyisback

[gustavothehuman]

53 minutes ago, karron0624 said:

Not when lover had:

 

1. Cruel slayage

2. The Gods

3. miss Americana and Jesus

4. Cornelia Heaven

5. Death by the Holyspirit

6. Soon you’ll get saved (ft. The disciples)

7. False God

8.  Daychurch

 

Lover is a solid album, and deserves praise.

I think it should have been shorter, we could begin by eliminating ME!SS and You Need To Flop Down.

[karron0624]

On 5/2/2022 at 12:47 PM, gustavothehuman said:

I think it should have been shorter, we could begin by eliminating ME!SS and You Need To Flop Down.

So basically the singles. Only Taylor would give us an album where the singles are worse than the album tracks. (She almost did this with red but thank goodness she gave us  All to Slay as a single). 

[Alyssa Edwards]

3 hours ago, karron0624 said:

Only Taylor would give us an album where the singles are worse than the album tracks.

if only that was the case

[skankle]

Rare stands out to me. It's a half-hearted entirely writing camp'd mess 

[Pendulum]

Do you even know what poptimism is??  Poptimism is the belief that pop music is worthy of professional critique and you can say it doesn't exist currently since pretty much every pop album released by a pop girlie gets professional reivews, either good or bad. I can't at everyone listing FN and the Glory shoutout in the OP  

 

We'd have to go back in time, mid-2000s, where pop music was seen as disposable trash music. Robyn's 2005 self-titled is one that immediately comes into mind when I hear the word poptimism. 

Edited May 6, 2022 by Pendulum

[brenda-walsh]

definitely Chromatica

 

Future Nostalgia started the whole disco trend and is a great dance record, so its acclaim is justified 

[lovecatt]

Future Nostalgia & Sour for sure

 

chromatica also deserved a sub 70 MC score

[Alyssa Edwards]

On 5/6/2022 at 7:21 PM, lovecatt said:

chromatica also deserved a sub 20 MC score