Eternium Posted Friday at 04:24 PM Posted Friday at 04:24 PM Thursday's update was way better than I imagined. Wicked officially passes E.T. and hits #31 on the all-time list with $440.5M total 5 1
Mikeymoonshine Posted Friday at 08:24 PM Posted Friday at 08:24 PM 7 hours ago, Eternium said: Everyone I know was happy that they fleshed out the story because it's hard to tell what's going on in the stage musical a lot of the time. Honestly, the movie felt fast to me and I don't think anything needed to be cut. I totally agree that fleshing out the story was good but I just think some scenes could have been edited down a little bit. It's a personal preference thing. I think they should have kept the scene where Glinda said she would have helped with the lion anyway. Felt like an important step in their friendship arc. I'd have cut down the stuff with the wizard and the chase scene leading up to defying gravity in favour of that. That's just my opinion tho I still love the movie either way I just think it could have been better just with some editing changes. 2
KasioKas Posted Friday at 08:39 PM Posted Friday at 08:39 PM 9 minutes ago, Mikeymoonshine said: I totally agree that fleshing out the story was good but I just think some scenes could have been edited down a little bit. It's a personal preference thing. I think they should have kept the scene where Glinda said she would have helped with the lion anyway. Felt like an important step in their friendship arc. I'd have cut down the stuff with the wizard and the chase scene leading up to defying gravity in favour of that. That's just my opinion tho I still love the movie either way I just think it could have been better just with some editing changes. No, the chase scene was required to build anticipation and show the severity of morrible's actions, and for casuals, the action packed final act was fitting for a movie of this size vs. the musical and keeps people who like that action-packed stuff entertained; lots of early critics praised what they called a 'super-hero ending', including those who had no history of wicked going in. Also, scenes with the wizard showed him not as a blindly evil character but more dimensional, as someone who can be delightful and shows why the people of the city might have warmed up to someone of his personality and stature. These were all necessary for character building. Jon's editing decisions were correct.
Mikeymoonshine Posted Friday at 09:25 PM Posted Friday at 09:25 PM 22 minutes ago, KasioKas said: No, the chase scene was required to build anticipation and show the severity of morrible's actions, and for casuals, the action packed final act was fitting for a movie of this size vs. the musical and keeps people who like that action-packed stuff entertained; lots of early critics praised what they called a 'super-hero ending', including those who had no history of wicked going in. Also, scenes with the wizard showed him not as a blindly evil character but more dimensional, as someone who can be delightful and shows why the people of the city might have warmed up to someone of his personality and stature. These were all necessary for character building. Jon's editing decisions were correct. That's nice but I don't agree with anything you said also I said "cut down" not cut entirely. I don't think the wizard comes off as a "blindly evil character" in the stage show and I don't think we needed for example a scene where they all discuss what colour the yellow brick road should be to make him not come off that way. I don't think we needed an extended chase scene to understand the severity of Morrible's actions. I think the end of the movie drags and that it could have been edited down without losing any plot or character stuff. I also think there are other sections of the movie where they could have removed a few minutes here and there. I do think it's odd that film twitter acts like Chu is some sort of terrible hack director and drags him endlessly which I haven't done and don't agree with but in this thread even the smallest of criticisms result in people quoting me to tell me I'm wrong about my opinion. It's not like i'm even the only person who's said this. 1 1
Jude Posted Friday at 11:18 PM Posted Friday at 11:18 PM Finger crossed! It's gonna be a tough battle since GG has added many international voters who favors Emilia Perez but let's hope some of them voted for Selena which would split their votes. 8
Jude Posted Saturday at 03:14 AM Posted Saturday at 03:14 AM She's manifesting that Audrey Hepburn biopic. 1 1 1
Stuart Posted Saturday at 12:01 PM Posted Saturday at 12:01 PM Wicked had to compete with Mufasa and Moana 2. This year, For Good (Nov 21) will have Zootopia 2 (5 days after) and freaking Avatar 3 as competition. 3
genio Posted Saturday at 04:25 PM Posted Saturday at 04:25 PM (edited) Almost $3.5m tonight, closing the Top 5. The numbers are still good, but of course it didn't gain as much as it did if you were to compare it to last week, and other movies like Moana 2, now that Wicked is digitally available it is totally understandable though. Wicked is now estimated to gross $11m to $13m at the US Box-Office this weekend. Also, with the domestic gross, the WW numbers will be at $662m. If international updates with around $15m, it could reach $680m after the weekend. Edited Saturday at 04:34 PM by genio 8
Eternium Posted Saturday at 05:05 PM Posted Saturday at 05:05 PM 13 hours ago, Jude said: She's manifesting that Audrey Hepburn biopic. I thought the same thing. We definitely want it (after her role as Megara in Hercules). 9 hours ago, Jude said: She's so funny. This had me crying. She is such a great comedic actress 5 hours ago, Stuart said: Wicked had to compete with Mufasa and Moana 2. This year, For Good (Nov 21) will have Zootopia 2 (5 days after) and freaking Avatar 3 as competition. For Good will do significantly worse than the first film, just fyi. Part 2 films never do as well. But it's part of why the film is a two parter - they split the budget in such a way that basically everything from Part 2's theatrical run will be profit. And then when you add on merchandising, the profit is huge. I'm expecting $350M domestic and $200M foreign for a $550M finish. Which is still amazing and will not only make it the biggest live action music sequel, but it'll also make Wicked the biggest live action musical franchise ever. 36 minutes ago, genio said: Almost $3.5m tonight, closing the Top 5. The numbers are still good, but of course it didn't gain as much as it did if you were to compare it to last week, and other movies like Moana 2, now that Wicked is digitally available it is totally understandable though. Wicked is now estimated to gross $11m to $13m at the US Box-Office this weekend. Also, with the domestic gross, the WW numbers will be at $662m. If international updates with around $15m, it could reach $680m after the weekend. $15M International? I'd love to see it, but I think even $10M is hopeful! I just really hope Moana 2 doesn't surpass Wicked. It's truly a terrible film and doesn't deserve it in the slightest. 4
genio Posted Saturday at 05:22 PM Posted Saturday at 05:22 PM 11 minutes ago, Eternium said: $15M International? I'd love to see it, but I think even $10M is hopeful! Why though? It did $22m the last time the international gross updated on the 29th. With tomorrow's update, there will be the gross of NYE and New Year covered in as well. Last weekend it did $19m domestic and around $14m international. This time, if domestic numbers are around $11m, international should be around $6m-$7m. On the 30th, 31st and 1st, it did 13m domestic, so that should also add another $5m-$6m international. I guess it could be somewhere between $10m and $15m.
Eternium Posted Saturday at 05:40 PM Posted Saturday at 05:40 PM 17 minutes ago, genio said: Why though? It did $22m the last time the international gross updated on the 29th. With tomorrow's update, there will be the gross of NYE and New Year covered in as well. Last weekend it did $19m domestic and around $14m international. This time, if domestic numbers are around $11m, international should be around $6m-$7m. On the 30th, 31st and 1st, it did 13m domestic, so that should also add another $5m-$6m international. I guess it could be somewhere between $10m and $15m. It has lost theaters in a significant amount of countries and from what I can see (doing $70k daily in Spain and only ~$500k in the U.K. on NYE), I think $15M is optimistic. That being said, I don't have full numbers so I hope you are right.
kimberly Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM 7 hours ago, Eternium said: For Good will do significantly worse than the first film, just fyi. Part 2 films never do as well. But it's part of why the film is a two parter - they split the budget in such a way that basically everything from Part 2's theatrical run will be profit. And then when you add on merchandising, the profit is huge. I'm expecting $350M domestic and $200M foreign for a $550M finish. Which is still amazing and will not only make it the biggest live action music sequel, but it'll also make Wicked the biggest live action musical franchise ever. hmm. I wouldn't be so sure it'll do that much worse. especially if it manages to capture a bigger international audience following digital/streaming release — that could make up for any domestic loss. I wish we knew how many in theaters are repeat viewers. will that phenomenon continue through For Good? that could also help. most other Part 2 films lack the replay value For Good likely will offer. I'm no expert though, just throwing out some ideas. definitely wouldn't be surprised if it did just as well as Wicked or somewhat worse.
mathekr Posted yesterday at 01:26 AM Posted yesterday at 01:26 AM (edited) Finally got around to watch it and i'm in awe, this pure excellence. Give Jon M Chu and the leading ladies their flowers this awards season. Edited yesterday at 01:27 AM by mathekr 1
Eternium Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Lovett said: 15 hours ago, kimberly said: hmm. I wouldn't be so sure it'll do that much worse. especially if it manages to capture a bigger international audience following digital/streaming release — that could make up for any domestic loss. I wish we knew how many in theaters are repeat viewers. will that phenomenon continue through For Good? that could also help. most other Part 2 films lack the replay value For Good likely will offer. I'm no expert though, just throwing out some ideas. definitely wouldn't be surprised if it did just as well as Wicked or somewhat worse. I am hopeful that the first film being on streaming helps push the IP and that Universal invests more in the global push, but I don't think we should expect it. They did get the Part 2 for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows to do better than the first film so there's hope. On 1/3/2025 at 2:24 PM, Mikeymoonshine said: I totally agree that fleshing out the story was good but I just think some scenes could have been edited down a little bit. It's a personal preference thing. I think they should have kept the scene where Glinda said she would have helped with the lion anyway. Felt like an important step in their friendship arc. I'd have cut down the stuff with the wizard and the chase scene leading up to defying gravity in favour of that. That's just my opinion tho I still love the movie either way I just think it could have been better just with some editing changes. I definitely think they could have cut the Yellow Brick Road part. It didn't really add anything at all and I was expecting some kind of punchline or actual tie in. The chase scene was definitely necessary, imo, especially for the straight male audience. The film had like no real conflict at that point and it made everything real. Plus Ariana's "Give me my foot" was hysterical, imo. 3
Eternium Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 23 hours ago, genio said: Why though? It did $22m the last time the international gross updated on the 29th. With tomorrow's update, there will be the gross of NYE and New Year covered in as well. Last weekend it did $19m domestic and around $14m international. This time, if domestic numbers are around $11m, international should be around $6m-$7m. On the 30th, 31st and 1st, it did 13m domestic, so that should also add another $5m-$6m international. I guess it could be somewhere between $10m and $15m. Only $30M left to pass Dune II in its global total and $19M left to be the first Broadway adaptation to pass $700M 4
vuelve88 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I hope that when Wicked For Good comes out, the franchise will have gained stronger international support. That's all it really needed. The film has had incredible legs, because it's just that amazing. 6
genio Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Eternium said: Only $30M left to pass Dune II in its global total and $19M left to be the first Broadway adaptation to pass $700M Amazing update!
bjorn Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Okay just watched this movie for the first time tonight. It was a bit underwhelming ngl. The first part was great at the Shiz university. But then it kinda went downhill when they got to Emerald city. I don't know. Bit anticlimactic the ending. Thought it was gonna be a more interesting plot. The highlight for me was definitely Ariana. Wow. Give her all the awards. overall a great film. I'd rate it a 7/10. 1 1
fridayteenage Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago broadway year end rankings: 2024 #2, Lion King 2023 #3, Lion King + Hamilton 2022 #4, Music Man (Hugh Jackman limited run) + Hamilton + Lion King 2021 #2, Hamilton 2019 #4, Hamilton + Lion King + Mockingbird 2018 #3, Hamilton + Lion King 2017 #3, Hamilton + Lion King 2016 #3, Hamilton + Lion King 2015, 2014, 2013 #2, Lion King 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004 #1 Since 2013 it beat Lion King once and now just beat Hamilton for the first time. (Though this doesn't tell the complete story as some theaters are bigger than others, so for example Book of Mormon was quite big but wicked has 78% more available seats so Mormon never had a bigger gross.)
Jude Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, Eternium said: Only $30M left to pass Dune II in its global total and $19M left to be the first Broadway adaptation to pass $700M It's definitely crossing that $700M mark by the next weekend and going to surpass Dune 2 the week after. What a smash! 1
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