movie Wicked (2024) | Cynthia Erivo & Ariana Grande | RT: 90% MC: 73

[ultraviolence.xx]

oh my second showing was EATING out of Bowen's hand. all his lines and even his expressions had them howling

[Saud]

I've been thinking why the movie is being received well and performing in ways i don't think any of us expected it to be

imo i feel there have been such a long drought for a female leading musical (duo or solo) to happen and actually be high quality or good material and not rushed or cash grab (cinderella or mean girls 2024)

and also the leading roleS is somebody who can SING and has a beautiful tone and not trying to prove to the public hey i can sing!!! (willy wonka) (i also hated willy wonka)

 

the last movie i would say was a good musical is probably is the color purple, but it was such a long movie with a very hard topic to wanting to just sit and enjoy.

 

the production that was put into this movie (wicked) is insane, and how they respected the original plot and the soundtrack and even invited the original ladies for it and not trying to make the soundtrack a modern leaning production  (thank god they didn't make popular a hip hop version )

also i love how the cast isn't your typical hollywood faces you expect to see in every movie (i just know if jonathan bailey didn't audition they would have gave that role to harry styles or timothée…) pretty much the whole cast are people who aren't familiar faces we always see in movies.

 

and i just love how they didn't try to rush the movie or the story… 3 hours movie for one part is not something can be received well but they said F that and cared about the quality and the story of it all.

Also i love how they didn't try to rush the musical scenes ( i watched performances of defying gravity in the original broadway cast and the ladies were RUSHED to sing especially for such an important song)

 

The last movie that had a +++A superstar to lead was Cats and it's crazy to think it could've headed that way but they learned every bit if it.

[Bewitched]

 

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[MatiRod]

I have a feeling that Part 2 is basically The Wizard of Oz but from the witches perspectives and Dorothy etc are main roles, and "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" will be featured in the film and prominently in the advertising. 

[Jude]

 

 

New peak!

 

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Top 10 incoming 

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Jude

[terrorblade]

finally watched it n it was pretty good. the ballroom scene got me teared up a bit

[Jude]

Spotify Global 12/02/2024

 

#47. Defying Gravity — 2.5M (+13) *New Peak*

#62. Popular — 2.1M (+22) *New Peak*

#78. What Is This Feeling? — 1.9M (+14) *New Peak*

 

New streaming and positions peak for these three smasha. 

 

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[V$.]

[Broken]

Oh wow, Defying Gravity is shaping up to a be a hit .

[V$.]

 

[Broken]

22 hours ago, byzantium said:

700M gross here we come.  This is coming for 1 billion even if it only has 300M outside the US 

 

 

I really don't understand why it's underperforming/flopping outside the US... 

 

Same thing happened to Twisters 

 

Wicked: DOM: 73% / INT: 27%

Twisters: DOM: 72% / INT: 28%

[ariananext]

33 minutes ago, Broken said:

I really don't understand why it's underperforming/flopping outside the US... 

 

Same thing happened to Twisters 

 

Wicked: DOM: 73% / INT: 27%

Twisters: DOM: 72% / INT: 28%

Here in Italy Wicked was pretty much unknown and only few people outside of Ariana's fanbase cared about it tbh

[Thuggin]

People might be surprised to learn that The Wizard Of Oz isn't as big of a classic internationally as it is in the US. Also, unless you're familiar with Wicked, most people don't even know how it ties in with The Wizard Of Oz. International audiences aren't going to take a chance on a three hour (with previews) part 1 adaptation of a musical that comes from Broadway, a US based entertainment medium.

 

But following awards season and streaming release, maybe the movie and soundtrack can become more well known internationally and help the second movie do better. Encanto didn't do that well in theaters but took off on streaming and then the soundtrack became a hit.

[byzantium]

1 hour ago, Broken said:

I really don't understand why it's underperforming/flopping outside the US... 

 

Same thing happened to Twisters 

 

Wicked: DOM: 73% / INT: 27%

Twisters: DOM: 72% / INT: 28%

Maybe tornados do not play well outside the US

 

But jokes aside, I don't think this is a question of underperforming outside the U.S.  it is more a question of why it is over-performing in the U.S.  The Wizard of Oz as a story, while arguably the most well known story in the U.S. is not as well known outside the U.S.  And the Musical it is based on is a Broadway production.  It's extremely well known but still a U.S. production.  
 

[Femininomenon]

After JFAD, people outside the US are scared of watching a 3-hour long musical me thinks 

[Funhouse]

Wicked being connected to The Wizard of Oz has always been a big hurdle for the musical outside of the English speaking world. It's a big and expensive show to produce, so it being tied to a franchise that is just not that well known everywhere makes it even harder for the Wicked brand to establish itself in a lot of markets. 

 

Even if the movie isn't necessarily a smash hit everywhere, I do think it'll be successful in making Wicked a more well-known and accessible property. There will already be an influx of new productions of the musical next year as it is premiering in Spain, Norway, and Poland, and Brazil is getting a second revival too. This combined with the movie being so hyped can only be beneficial for Part 2 next year.

 

It'll also be interesting to see how the movie does in some of the markets where it has yet to open. Japan, Germany, and the Netherlands have all had long running productions of the stage show, so maybe those countries will bring in a little more money.

 

 

[MatiRod]

1 hour ago, byzantium said:

Maybe tornados do not play well outside the US

 

But jokes aside, I don't think this is a question of underperforming outside the U.S.  it is more a question of why it is over-performing in the U.S.  The Wizard of Oz as a story, while arguably the most well known story in the U.S. is not as well known outside the U.S.  And the Musical it is based on is a Broadway production.  It's extremely well known but still a U.S. production.  
 

Twister in the 90s was huge internationally, but it wasn't marketed with country music and a kind of all-American feel like this one has, I think that's what held it back in internationally, not the fact that it's tornadoes. It came across as a Midwest/country-adjacent movie. 
 

The Wizard of Oz is indeed kind of local as are Broadway musicals so Wicked has an uphill battle outside of English-speaking countries.

[rivers]

It's been a long, long time since I've walked out of a theater with glowing adoration of a film but that's changed. This movie was everything and more! The last 15 or so minutes of the film was an out of body experience. Cynthia did that!! I  really want to see it again but in imax with better sound 

[Donquizote]

Universal spent 350M to market this movie. While Wizard of Oz is very popular in the US, it's not that popular outside the US. They used that money to make GP aware of this movie.

Second part will gross higher internationally methinks.

[Lovett]

2 minutes ago, Donquizote said:

Universal spent 350M to market this movie.

No, they did not.

[aotearoa]

I cant stop singing popular wtf 

[Eóghan]

1 hour ago, MatiRod said:

Twister in the 90s was huge internationally, but it wasn't marketed with country music and a kind of all-American feel like this one has, I think that's what held it back in internationally, not the fact that it's tornadoes. It came across as a Midwest/country-adjacent movie. 
 

no that's not the problem, the first twister movie was such a success in the 90s because natural disaster movies were very new at that time and big budget cgi movies were not as common as today, you had 2-3 big production per year max. the competition was just not the same as today. you add on top of that the mysteries of tornadoes for international audience which is not a mystery anymore with the millions of docu you can see on cable channels or streaming. it's just not a fascinating subject like it used it be.

 

the first movie also had a very oriented mid-western country feel to it and was promoted as such. there's even a pure country song from shania in the soundtrack that was a success in the US ('No one Needs to Know'), way before Shania made a name for herself internationally a few years later with the juggernaut "Come on Over".

 

 

 

[Lightbringer007]

when was the last time a musical was even global? the lion king? west side story?

[AxelFox]

5 hours ago, Broken said:

I really don't understand why it's underperforming/flopping outside the US... 

 

Same thing happened to Twisters 

 

Wicked: DOM: 73% / INT: 27%

Twisters: DOM: 72% / INT: 28%

Can only speak for my country, but here in Romania the showings are VERY limited for some reason. There's only 2-3 showings a day at any big cinema, and only one of those is in the evening when most people can realistically make it after work hours. 

 

It's really frustrating as I could not agree on a date with my friends and had to go see it alone last weekend. Well worth it though, probably my favorite movie released in the last 10 years. Seeing it again tomorrow. Alone once more nnn. 

[Mikeymoonshine]

Finally saw this. I was really impressed, it adapted the musical mostly really well, Cynthia and Ariana were amazing. Really a lot of it just felt like the stage show but with extra stuff. I will say I don't think it needed to be as long as it was, some sequences felt very drawn out. I wouldn't say it dragged or ever got boring but idk I just think there were some unnecessary parts. 

 

I could see them both getting oscars for this they kind of made the rest of the cast look bad by comparison and I don't think any of them actually were bad.