ChandlerBing Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Maybe the other way around for Gaga and Katy. X was always in B's shadow tho sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Xtina was in Britney’s shadow for a time, yes. But Katy was never in Gaga’s shadow. Katy was outdoing Gaga from the end of 2010-2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znake Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 8:42 PM, perfillusion said: No, Xtina stomped Britney at the Grammys, took risks with a change in sound and still booked a massive UK album with Stripped (Britney always struggled in the UK, no #1 albums), took risks with her music with songs like Beautiful and Cant Hold Us Down with real messages and not just songs glorifying male toxicity which was the easy path in the early 00s As for Katy she was B-list at her peak, mainly a Dr Luke'd radio pandering act so they were never in the same league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Fox Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 i actually think not at all xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Fox Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 8:42 PM, perfillusion said: No, Xtina stomped Britney at the Grammys, took risks with a change in sound and still booked a massive UK album with Stripped (Britney always struggled in the UK, no #1 albums), took risks with her music with songs like Beautiful and Cant Hold Us Down with real messages and not just songs glorifying male toxicity which was the easy path in the early 00s As for Katy she was B-list at her peak, mainly a Dr Luke'd radio pandering act so they were never in the same league What kind of DMF is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev8 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 6:13 AM, Jeremiah said: I know a liddo didn't just bring up R Kelly... It's always the Same user that makes the dumb statements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout2006 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Katy was hardly ever overshadowed by Gaga. She achieved 6 #1's in the matter of one era, making her the first since Michael Jackson (note: in his prime). This was something not even Gaga managed to do in the behemoth-sized era that was TF-TFM. They both had their own incredibly massive songs (Bad Romance, Firework) that remained relevant for the years to come during the same period and while Gaga was shifting albums and pop culture, Katy was shifting singles and tours. Katy was fierce competition to Gaga in 2009-2011 until the ARTPOP era happened. PRISM stomped over it (from the very moment, Roar debuted atop Applause in the BB100) with ease and allowed Katy to tremendously prevail over Gaga. Katy managed to stay relevant for much longer than Gaga but they both eventually started to decline (further for Gaga) during 2015-2017. Since then, we have had the ASIB and Chromatica eras which have outdone the past two releases of Katy but I think your question is pertaining to the prime of their careers. Btw, Gaga and Katy was never a worldly famous feud and especially pales in comparison to the sole frenzy created on the supposed rivalry between Britney and Christina If we are talking about infamous feuds between MPGs, it has got to be the Taylor & Katy feud. Regarding Britney/Christina, pretty much most of the times Xtina was overshadowed by the mega-stardom of Britney but that has always made me feel bad for her since she started to discover her individuality as an artist after her debut era which essentially erupted the media rivalry. Stripped did break that but she was still being asked many questions about Britney in post-2002 interviews. Edited April 25, 2022 by Blackout2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout2006 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 1:48 AM, Both Sides Now said: Spotify Baby One More Time (SONG) - 497M > Christina Aguilera (ALBUM) - 492M Toxic (SONG) - 746M > Strapped (ALBUM) - 733M Back To Basics (ALBUM) - 392M > Gimme More (SONG) - 325M For apparently being bigger than Britney at the time, Legend X sure does struggle being remembered! STOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout2006 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 8:49 AM, Isaiah said: britney stan on a pop forum is among that generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleRainbow! Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 The backfire That liddo really thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicWooHoo Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Can you even talk about Britney’s lack of vocal talent and her atrocious live performances without mentioning Christina? not really. When’s the last time you heard someone compare Britney’s auto tune to Adele or Barbara Streisand or Whitney Houston? Nope it’s always about how Christina would destroy her vocally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 They were two entirely different situations, I think. The idea of "shadow" does fit Christina during her first era, valid or not, she definitely was compared to Britney in that they were both blonde, young, Disney-related child stars making bubblegum pop. But unlike Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore or even Willa Ford, she stood out for her amazing voice and personality as well as her legitimate success. Still, there was a definite idea that she was second fiddle to the massive stardom and cultural ubiquity of Britney Spears. She certainly made her own mark with Stripped though and has since distinguished herself outside of the Britney template. Now, though people compare them, there's no idea that she's a 2.0 or in a shadow. She's simply the unique star she is. Katy already had success before Gaga debuted, and even after Gaga's huge stardom and cultural ubiquity, she more than held her own with an arguably more impressive chart run at her peak and her own distinct brand. Though they both definitely functioned in camp and the pompe of pop, Katy was more cartoonish, fun, and "colourful" while Gaga was more Fashion with a capital F, with more serious undertones and meanings. I don't think Katy ever was regarded as a Gaga 2.0 or had any struggle to be seen from Gaga's shadow which wasn't cast on her at all. She had her own bright light and massive success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TouchinFree Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Xtina was ALWAYS in Britney's shadow. Anyone that says otherwise is just bluffing or didn't experience early 2000's pop culture. Gaga was always bigger than Katy. In terms of success though im not sure. Because Katy was massive with TD era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn. Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Katy/Gaga rivalry wasn't even that big of a thing outside of social media what... The Britney and Xtina rivalry however had much more media attention and had celebrities talking about it. Wasn't even Mary J Blige saying how rude Xtina was in some interview and then she brought up Britney for comparison saying she'd go further bc she has a better attitude. It was a whole mess, let's not compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn. Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 11:48 PM, Both Sides Now said: Spotify Baby One More Time (SONG) - 497M > Christina Aguilera (ALBUM) - 492M Toxic (SONG) - 746M > Strapped (ALBUM) - 733M Back To Basics (ALBUM) - 392M > Gimme More (SONG) - 325M For apparently being bigger than Britney at the time, Legend X sure does struggle being remembered! No because let's talk about this. How come Xtina's singles from her debut era were pulling 5 weeks at #1 and yet they're literally so irrelevant and forgotten today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Katy isn’t living in Gaga’s shadow she came and went and for sure she could only dream to have Gaga’s megastardom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabbGaga Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Yes Christina lived in Britneys shadow, the media played a big part in that rivalry pitting them against each other constantly and obviously someone was going to be seen as the lesser. Gaga and Katy were mostly able to co-exist, obviously when Gaga debuted she was a cultural phenomenon, she was on top of the world and pushing boundaries but meanwhile Katy was still making hits and doing her thing and then when Applause/Roar happened still Gaga was able to chart in the top 10 and do her thing as well. Now things are obviously pretty different, outside of their peaks Gaga was able to evolve and retain relevancy and Katy just kind of evaporated into thin air mostly due to her inability to connect with her audience and evolve as an artist but I don't think Katy lives in Gaga's shadow at least not outside of stan twitter, its just shes not as big of a name as Gaga is anymore and thats ok but it doesn't make them direct competition which is why the constant Gaga/Katy threads on atrl are really dumb. Anyone from the gp wouldn't really see them as competition, Katy is probably seen as cute for a throwback and Gaga has the star power that transcends across generations and has raked herself up massive respect among people all while still being able to chart, get hits, collab with whomever she wants, venture into acting and do stadium tours. But all of that being said does it really matter considering all 4 woman were/are successful, made tons of money and get to do whatever they want. It doesn't matter what a bunch of people on the internet say. Edited April 28, 2022 by HabbGaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyBenzz Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Britney/Xtina definitely, but Katy was never in Gaga's shadow they were both massive and bigger than the other at certain points during their peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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