celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Redstreak]

3 hours ago, Patient Zero said:

Wow You need help. Just like Amber and Johnny. You seem very unstable and hostile as well. 

 

 

I mean this is a case of overwhelming evidence of Amber Heard being abused by an older and powerful man and you’re kinda just waving that away with “well I don’t like her vibes”

 

it’s kinda ****** up

[Scandalous]

isn’t it obvious they are BOTH at fault here? Amber has been caught lying and Johnny was clearly abusive and drug-fueled. Amber’s staged acting for the cameras and Johnny is being ridiculous and not even taking this seriously

[Redstreak]

it’s very weird how every “Amber was caught lying” posts never seem to be able to have anything to back that up

[for lovers]

16 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

it’s very weird how every “Amber was caught lying” posts never seem to be able to have anything to back that up

 

Are they referring to this?

[MARTYN]

1 hour ago, BobBertran1992 said:

You don't have to ''like'' Amber Heard to believe her and support her as a victim of domestic violence. I disagree with JK Rowling in regards to her views on trans people, but when The Sun published an interview with her abuser, I defender her. 

I’ve never had an opinion on Amber or Johnny honestly. I’ve just gone off what I’ve seen in the trial and yes there is circumstantial evidence but that doesn’t cut it. The only reason I’ve been watching the trial is cause I’ve been in a domestic violence situation (as a child) and the opinions I have on the case isnt what I was expecting going into it. 
 

I’m also not sure comparing Amber Heard with JK Rowling is having a positive impact. 

[MARTYN]

21 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

it’s very weird how every “Amber was caught lying” posts never seem to be able to have anything to back that up

“You said you donated the 7 million settlement. Is that correct?” 
“Yes. That is correct”

 

Thats one lie and it was under oath. From her own witnesses we haven’t had any witnessing of any abuse. And we’ve had confirmation she hit one of her witnesses. It just seems very odd compared to the majority of domestic violence cases. 

[kawk]

24 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

it’s very weird how every “Amber was caught lying” posts never seem to be able to have anything to back that up

there's so many examples to pick from, here are just a few! 

 

 

[CovalentBondage]

39 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

it’s very weird how every “Amber was caught lying” posts never seem to be able to have anything to back that up

She's lied several times and I only watched yesterday

[PoisonCandy]

9 hours ago, emile20 said:

Vogue posted an Opinion piece today which is surprisingly the only place I have seen the rhetoric that is at least neutral and not full of Johnny stans.
All of my irl gay friends even ones without social media are vehemently defending Johnny and I am so confused.
At this point I chalk my opinion down to actually being invested from the start and having a minor in Gender studies/Psychology and understanding how abuse, Patriarchy and the system works and is still working for abusers. 

It's really sad that a PR machine, Tiktok and a whole generation is sensationalizing and demoralizing victims and their stories making a mockery out of this.

https://www.vogue.com/article/why-its-time-to-believe-amber-heard

How do you deal with that? Because I'm kind of the same. I'm not siding with either of them, but it's like if you don't side with Johnny, you become an outcast. It's why I get so awkward when the topic comes up irl, because everyone is supporting Johnny so hard.

[BobBertran1992]

24 minutes ago, kawk said:

there's so many examples to pick from, here are just a few! 

 

 

Sorry, but do you expect me to trust a channel called ''Viral Vision'', with video titles such as ''Johnny Depp Reveals Judge Has CONFIRMED He Already Won The Case...'' and with THOSE thumbnails? 

Edited May 18, 2022 by BobBertran1992

[kawk]

3 minutes ago, BobBertran1992 said:

Sorry, but do you expect me to trust a channel called ''Viral Vision'', with video titles such as ''Johnny Depp Reveals Judge Has CONFIRMED He Already Won The Case...'' and with THOSE thumbnails? 

I don't care what you do, I wasn't replying to you. 

[Patient Zero]

1 hour ago, Redstreak said:

it’s very weird how every “Amber was caught lying” posts never seem to be able to have anything to back that up

Then it’s time to educate yourself and re-watch the trials, instead of blindly picking one side. 

 

Because that’s actually  “****** up” 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Patient Zero

[Antisocialites]

I've had enough of cis-men talking about how men can also be abused. **** off. 

[Redstreak]

4 minutes ago, Patient Zero said:

Then it’s time to educate yourself and re-watch the trials, instead of blindly picking one side. 

 

Because that’s actually  “****** up” 

My point is she hasn’t been caught in any damning lies and the people who keep saying she did never have anything other than viral clickbait YouTube vids. Kinda keeps not surprising me that he lost his UK case

 

friendly reminder that a court case already determined that enough evidence existed that calling Depp a wife-beater is NOT defamation!!

[Beyonnaise]

Is anyone else so uncomfortable by the media circus this trial has become? Like it all feels so icky, and I'm someone who devoured trials like Casey Anthony's and rewatched a lot of OJ's. Even when I've tried to avoid it, everyone at work and on social media is talking about it and the back and forth gives me such a headache. I think the meme-ification clashing with deranged stan culture and an undercurrent of misogyny is what is making it feel particularly gross to me. Like, regardless of the specifics and where you stand (I don't like either of them), it's undoubtedly giving a lot of people like straight men the cultural permission to made wide-reaching statements that reveal their hatred of women.

[NausAllien]

 

[MARTYN]

19 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

 

She also testified to never seeing Johnny physically abusive. 

[NausAllien]

1 minute ago, MARTYN said:

She also testified to never seeing Johnny physically abusive. 

She testified to the legitimacy of her injuries and photos depicting those injuries. It completely destroys the argument presented by Depp's team that the injuries were fake because they couldn't be seen in her appearance on the James Corden show. There's an eye witness that saw those injuries. Her makeup artist will testify something similar later on (like in the UK trial).

[gloamingtheplain]

16 hours ago, suburbannature said:

Amber Heard never said she abused Johnny Depp. She said she struck him in defensive moves (both of herself and her sister). Abuse victims often face this kind of accusatory rhetoric in legal proceedings to undermine their accusations of abuse as there is typically some kind of evidence of defensive wounds. Having worked with both victims and perpetrators, it is not unusual for victims to actually aggregate physical aggressions at some stages in relationships. This can be due to hyperarousal (i.e. perceiving a threat at all times - sometimes innocuous moments, sometimes genuine threats). The amygdala in the emotional brain immediately sends the person into survival or reptilian brain rather than moving to the prefrontal cortex to determine whether or not there's a genuine threat - the result is panic. This is a major characteristic of people who have experienced trauma or survived abuse. In other situations, the victim may begin to aggregate physical contact after long periods of abuse. This is called reactive abuse.The victim may scream, toss out insults, or even lash out physically at the abuser. The abuser then retaliates by telling the victim that they are, in fact, the abuser. Reactive abuse is often used to discredit victims during litigation, and one of many reasons why an overwhelmingly small number of accusations of abuse actually result in convictions. 

It’s on tape that she confirms physically abusing him *while* verbally abusing him calling him a baby because he’s been in fights that were more violent than she was. 
 

It’s all on tape. She’s physically and verbally abusive. 
 

Johnny may not be the Angel he says he is, but it’s 100% confirmed she’s an abuser because we literally have audio recording of her saying she abused him while abusing him. 
 

And not ONCE did she say it was in defence of him or he provoked her, she 100% agrees with him that he was the one who stepped back when she got violent. 
 

16 hours ago, CovalentBondage said:

I heard audio of her today saying she struck him and he was being a baby about it lol. 

It’s literally the only evidence in this trial that is actually absolute. She confirms she was physically violent with him and also in the same recording agrees that Johnny was avoiding her abuse, not instigating it. And then proceeds to gaslight and verbally abuse him by calling him a baby that he’s upset she was physically violent with her. 
 

Anyone who tries to spin that as “defending herself” is personally bias. 
 

If the situation was flipped and Johnny has said those things, he’d be locked up in prison, case closed. 
 

We all know it. 

[MARTYN]

11 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

She testified to the legitimacy of her injuries and photos depicting those injuries. It completely destroys the argument presented by Depp's team that the injuries were fake because they couldn't be seen in her appearance on the James Corden show. There's an eye witness that saw those injuries. Her makeup artist will testify something similar later on (like in the UK trial).

But we’re not looking to see if Amber had injuries. We’re looking to see if those injuries were caused by Johnny and so far we’ve yet to have any evidence of that. 
 

We have however had Ambers Witness’ testify to her being violent. We’ve got the same photo entered into evidence twice with just the saturation changed (that she testified is a different photo). We’ve had her say in one trial she’d donated the settlement and in this one it’s come out that actually isn’t true. She’s said the words “I never once started a physical fight with Johnny” but the evidence submitted in this trial  suggests otherwise. 
 

Based on this testimony there is still no evidence or witness’ to the matter of the case. We have no proof in this trial that Amber was abused by Johnny, regardless who you prefer. We do however have reasonable doubt cast on her previous claims now too. 
 

Is this the stylist/makeup artist that wrote a signed testimony saying she saw Amber Heard the day of the interview and saw no injuries on her? Or another one? I think her name was Samantha or something? Could be wrong. 

Edited May 18, 2022 by MARTYN

[MARTYN]

7 minutes ago, gloamingtheplain said:

It’s on tape that she confirms physically abusing him *while* verbally abusing him calling him a baby because he’s been in fights that were more violent than she was. 
 

It’s all on tape. She’s physically and verbally abusive. 
 

Johnny may not be the Angel he says he is, but it’s 100% confirmed she’s an abuser because we literally have audio recording of her saying she abused him while abusing him. 
 

And not ONCE did she say it was in defence of him or he provoked her, she 100% agrees with him that he was the one who stepped back when she got violent. 
 

It’s literally the only evidence in this trial that is actually absolute. She confirms she was physically violent with him and also in the same recording agrees that Johnny was avoiding her abuse, not instigating it. And then proceeds to gaslight and verbally abuse him by calling him a baby that he’s upset she was physically violent with her. 
 

Anyone who tries to spin that as “defending herself” is personally bias. 
 

If the situation was flipped and Johnny has said those things, he’d be locked up in prison, case closed. 
 

We all know it. 

Agree with this a lot. 
 

I think we have a situation where there are a lot of Depp fans who have supported him blindly, but people can’t forget that there is also a lot of people that have read into the case and watched the trial and don’t believe Amber because of the inconsistencies and that doesn’t automatically make us Depp stans or misogynistic. 
 

I also think there’s a lot of people who are only defending Amber because we’re expected to believe all women. And yes, I believe we should. However, when that person goes to court and the evidence suggests what she was saying might not be the entire truth, I think it’s fair for people to change their mind and/or disagree with her case based on the evidence. 

[MasterExpose]

Need to know how Deep's team gonna answer this  Like always a thing of she said, he said 

[Redstreak]

20 minutes ago, gloamingtheplain said:

It’s on tape that she confirms physically abusing him *while* verbally abusing him calling him a baby because he’s been in fights that were more violent than she was. 
 

It’s all on tape. She’s physically and verbally abusive. 
 

Johnny may not be the Angel he says he is, but it’s 100% confirmed she’s an abuser because we literally have audio recording of her saying she abused him while abusing him. 
 

And not ONCE did she say it was in defence of him or he provoked her, she 100% agrees with him that he was the one who stepped back when she got violent. 
 

It’s literally the only evidence in this trial that is actually absolute. She confirms she was physically violent with him and also in the same recording agrees that Johnny was avoiding her abuse, not instigating it. And then proceeds to gaslight and verbally abuse him by calling him a baby that he’s upset she was physically violent with her. 
 

Anyone who tries to spin that as “defending herself” is personally bias. 
 

If the situation was flipped and Johnny has said those things, he’d be locked up in prison, case closed. 
 

We all know it. 

Yeah because you’re removing literally the entire context. Her story has always been that anything done to Depp was reactionary either in her defense or her sisters, you just call it bias because then you don’t have to think about the actual details and you can put a nice little bow on top. She was saying “after what you’ve done and I’ve done something back in response *you’re* the one that’s gonna try and say you were the victim of this?”

 

and it’s funny that the bar for Amber is that no one personally witnessed the hitting (even though they saw the results) but it’s just believed fact that she shat the bad and cut his finger off with literally no evidence and even with his own admission that HE cut his finger

Edited May 18, 2022 by Redstreak

[NausAllien]

9 minutes ago, MARTYN said:

Based on this testimony there is still no evidence or witness’ to the matter of the case. We have no proof in this trial that Amber was abused by Johnny, regardless who you prefer. We do however have reasonable doubt cast on her previous claims now too. 

This is where you're wrong. iO Tillett Wright testified yesterday that he personally witnessed Depp being VERBALLY ABUSIVE towards Amber. Remember that this is a defamation case. And because the op-ed didn't specifically mention any incidents, Amber doesn't even have to prove the physical abuse. It is enough to prove that Depp was abusive in any way. 

 

Mr. Tillett Wright also testified to hearing a fight between Depp and Amber over the phone and hearing Depp THREATEN Heard with physical violence, which prompted to call 911. 

"You think I f-cking hit you? What if I peel your f–ing hair back?"

 

[MARTYN]

4 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

This is where you're wrong. iO Tillett Wright testified yesterday that he personally witnessed Depp being VERBALLY ABUSIVE towards Amber. Remember that this is a defamation case. And because the op-ed didn't specifically mention any incidents, Amber doesn't even have to prove the physical abuse. It is enough to prove that Depp was abusive in any way. 

 

Mr. Tillett Wright also testified to hearing a fight between Depp and Amber over the phone and hearing Depp THREATEN Heard with physical violence, which prompted to call 911. 

"You think I f-cking hit you? What if I peel your f–ing hair back?"

 

This is a defamation case regarding an op-ed the defendant wrote regarding sexual abuse.

 

Lets not forget Amber in this trial has admitted the op-ed “wasn’t just about Johnny”. That’s all we need to know in this case. If she wrote that meaning it to be about Johnny in any way and she cannot actually provide evidence of physical or sexual abuse (as a result of Johnny) then she has no case. She needs to either prove it wasn’t about Johnny or that he was physically violent. 

I see the points you’re making, but one witness suggesting a threat of violence does not equal violence or physical abuse. Is that a shame for possible victims? Of course. But nothing you have said in your post actually proves what this case is about. 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by MARTYN