celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Patient Zero]

Wow You need help. Just like Amber and Johnny. You seem very unstable and hostile as well. 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Patient Zero

[Looolqueen]

Can people have a normal conversation without resorting to personal insults like that, because you don't agree with their opinion? grow the hell up.

[kawk]

16 minutes ago, Patient Zero said:

Wow You need help. Just like Amber and Johnny. You seem very unstable and hostile as well. 

 

 

most Amber supporters are it seems. 

[BobBertran1992]

10 minutes ago, kawk said:

most Amber supporters are it seems. 

Have you seen the whole Internet? It’s the Depp stans calling Amber Heard “Amber Turd”, making content where they mock her testimony, **** shame her, etc. To say that “most Amber supporters” are hostile is to be blind to reality.

[NausAllien]

If standing up against BLATANT MISOGYNY makes me unstable, I'm happy to be unstable because I know I'm on the right side of History. One day, we'll look back at the way people reacted to this trial and gasp in horror. The fact some of you think it's okay to police the way a woman behaves and accuse her of acting, while giving a pass to the man who was making jokes constantly while being cross-examined, is REVOLTING.

 

I will NOT apologize for calling you out for your blatant misogyny!

Edited May 18, 2022 by NausAllien

[Patient Zero]

7 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

If standing up against BLATANT MISOGYNY makes me unstable, I'm happy to be unstable because I know I'm on the right side of History. One day, we'll look back at the way people reacted to this trial and gasp in horror. The fact some of you think it's okay to police the way a woman behaves and accuse her of acting, while giving a pass to the man who was making jokes constantly while being cross-examined, is REVOLTING.

 

I will NOT apologize for calling you out for your blatant misogyny!

I’m not waiting for an apology because this is the internet, to me it’s not that serious. 
 

It’s ok to discuss or mock Johnny or Amber because they’re both a mess and this is a public trial. But it’s not ok to get personal with others outside the trial.

 

You name calling me while I was having a normal conversation with you shows/tells more about you than about me. So it’s all ok 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Patient Zero

[Patient Zero]

12 minutes ago, BobBertran1992 said:

Have you seen the whole Internet? It’s the Depp stans calling Amber Heard “Amber Turd”, making content where they mock her testimony, **** shame her, etc. To say that “most Amber supporters” are hostile is to be blind to reality.

I’m sorry but many Amber supporters like to pull the misogyny card and tend to think that only men can be abusive. 
 

That’s not fair either. 

[Brooklyn Baby]

It's so satisfying to hear Camille say "objection, _______" and the judge sustaining 

 

 

[NausAllien]

3 minutes ago, Patient Zero said:

It’s ok to discuss or mock Johnny or Amber because they’re both a mess and this is a public trial.

No, it's NOT okay. That's what you don't seem to get and what makes me actually upset. This may be a public trial but the matters discussed are very serious and have real-world consequences. Mocking someone who claims to be a victim of sexual assault and abuse is a serious matter. Accusing her of acting when giving testimony is a serious matter. And the fact you're only doing this with the woman's testimony is even worse and shows clear misogyny.

 

It's not pulling a card; it's calling a spade a spade. You may not even realize you are being misogynistic but you ARE. It is the double standard that makes it so blatant and revolting. Maybe one day you'll realize how harmful your actions and words are.

[BobBertran1992]

4 minutes ago, Patient Zero said:

I’m sorry but many Amber supporters like to pull the misogyny card and tend to think that only men can be abusive. 
 

That’s not fair either. 

I’ve addressed that on another thread (the Julia Fox one), but I’ll say it again: men can be abused too, but in this case there are other dynamics besides gender (influence and money). 
 

Besides, to bring up that men can be abused too during this trial is to dismiss how Johnny was the one who poisoned the relationship (“poisoned” as in “made it abusive”).

 

I repeat: men can be victims of abuse, but to use this fact to hide Johnny Depp’s behaviour is not appropiate.

[Saintlor]

I don’t know much about court, but if most of the GP are celebrity obsessed and how famous Johnny is and how much they like him influences their views on this…

 

…won’t this be the same for the jury?

 

How can the trial be fair in this case?

[Patient Zero]

8 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

No, it's NOT okay. That's what you don't seem to get and what makes me actually upset. This may be a public trial but the matters discussed are very serious and have real-world consequences. Mocking someone who claims to be a victim of sexual assault and abuse is a serious matter. Accusing her of acting when giving testimony is a serious matter. And the fact you're only doing this with the woman's testimony is even worse and shows clear misogyny.

 

It's not pulling a card; it's calling a spade a spade. You may not even realize you are being misogynistic but you ARE. It is the double standard that makes it so blatant and revolting. Maybe one day you'll realize how harmful your actions and words are.

Amber has lied a few times during her testimony. I’m not saying she’s lied about her getting abused- but she’s lied.

 

And when people lie about something, they can lie about many other things as well. 
 

of course this is mockable behaviour. 

[NausAllien]

Just now, BobBertran1992 said:

I’ve addressed that on another thread (the Julia Fox one), but I’ll say it again: men can be abused too, but in this case there are other dynamics besides gender (influence and money). 
 

Besides, to bring up that men can be abused too during this trial is to dismiss how Johnny was the one who poisoned the relationship (“poisoned” as in “made it abusive”).

 

I repeat: men can be victims of abuse, but to use this fact to hide Johnny Depp’s behaviour is not appropiate.

This is a little bit of a red herring, so that's why I usually ignore it. Yes, men can be victims of abuse too, both in same-sex and straight relationships. However, this is not the case here. Every indications points towards Depp being the abusive one, and also the one who was in a position to abuse. He was older than her, bigger and heavier physically, wealthier than her, more famous and influential, surrounded by his own employees including his security guards, etc.

 

Like I said, this idea that people who believe Amber do so because they don't think men can be abused is ridiculous. We believe Amber because we have taken the time to educate ourselves on the dynamics of abuse and, when looking at the whole picture of their relationship, it's crystal clear who was the abusive one and who even had the opportunity to be abusive in the first place.

[BobBertran1992]

Also, going back to the “Amber stans being rude”, again I’ll direct your attention to the Internet: when journalists write pieces that try to fight the vilification of Amber Heard, Depo stans flock their mentions calling them the worst names (I wouldn’t be surprised if there were death threats involved), anonymous users who support Amber Heard are getting pilled on by Depp stans/ apologists. Hell, the Depp stans who attend the hearings boo Amber Heard when she leaves. To act like the “Amber Heard “stans” are the ones who are making people scared of speaking up is to be oblivious to the facts. 
 

The fact that Lance Bass can make a TikTok mocking Amber Heard’s testimony tells you what side is driving the conversation.

[rzal]

1 hour ago, Patient Zero said:

I mean more in the way they behave in court. Johnny has been himself constantly. While Ambers act fluctuates too much. 

You mean the Johnny who laughs at her testimony, can't look at her and doodles in court?  If she did any of those things you'd call her a crazy witch or something.

38 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

If standing up against BLATANT MISOGYNY makes me unstable, I'm happy to be unstable because I know I'm on the right side of History. One day, we'll look back at the way people reacted to this trial and gasp in horror. The fact some of you think it's okay to police the way a woman behaves and accuse her of acting, while giving a pass to the man who was making jokes constantly while being cross-examined, is REVOLTING.

 

I will NOT apologize for calling you out for your blatant misogyny!

[Ghiles]

Some of you in this thread (the Depp supporters it seems) look like an absolute nightmare to deal with. It's like talking to a wall because all you care about is taking sides and you ignore anything that does not fit your agenda.

 

No wonder that user his losing his temper trying to reason with you. You are treating this like an ATRL stanwar where you have to defend your fave at all costs. It's quite frankly pathetic.

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Ghiles

[Looolqueen]

For all the evidence pointing towards Depp being abusive, which I believe he was, there is just as much evidence pointing that Amber is completely deranged and abusive as well. So for people to just take one side while claiming the other party is a completely innocent victim is just..strange to me. How can you see this so black and white?

[Patient Zero]

7 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

For all the evidence pointing towards Depp being abusive, which I believe he was, there is just as much evidence pointing that Amber is completely deranged and abusive as well. So for people to just take one side while claiming the other party is a completely innocent victim is just..strange to me. How can you see this so black and white?

Exactly 

[Pop]

the amount of men that follow this case and make pro-johnny accounts on Twitter and Tiktok to share anti-amber propaganda ?

 

do you ever recall straight men following any domestic abuse case ever in your life? out of the millions of cases of abused women this is the one they become obsessed with? what an interesting coincidence. ?

[Raiden]

1 hour ago, NausAllien said:

The way neckbeards such as yourself try to police the way women behave is DISGUSTING and MISOGYNISTIC.

 

Why don't you do the same for Depp? He was laughing at times while talking about the the abuse he allegedly endured. He made jokes constantly:

 

 

And you don't think those comments are weird given the situation? You aren't policing his behavior? Why don't you say you're a misogynistic PIG and be done with it. Like I said, your comments are ABSOLUTELY REVOLTING. 

What weed are you smoking? There is nothing to criticize in that video.

 

It shows how Heard's team was attempting to frustrate Depp into "acting out" in anger right there in courtroom and capitalize on it (influence the judge and jury in order to say "see? he is indeed a violent man who can't control his rage" . That was the plan.

 

And it spectacularly failed as Depp was just Depp — that trademark humor and mellowness that we all love and recognize since his 21 Jump Street days. That is authenticity as opposed to Heard's terrible Jekyll-and-Hyde switches — acting and attempting to self-trigger herself into crying and trying all sort of other emotional string-pulling.

[Looolqueen]

2 hours ago, NausAllien said:

Probably one of the most compelling parts of Mr. Tillett Wright's testimony. He heard Depp verbally and physically abuse Amber. Not as good as actually seeing the assault take place, but very compelling for the case. Depp, after all, has to prove he was never abusive, and this is very solid evidence he was:

 

 

 

He said that when they argued they were BOTH mean and vicious to one another. He never saw either of them physically assault one another. He never saw Depp become violent with Amber. When he used, he saw Depp become violent as in throw glasses and dishware in his house, but never physically violent with other people.

Edited May 18, 2022 by Looolqueen

[TheCal]

26 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

For all the evidence pointing towards Depp being abusive, which I believe he was, there is just as much evidence pointing that Amber is completely deranged and abusive as well. So for people to just take one side while claiming the other party is a completely innocent victim is just..strange to me. How can you see this so black and white?

 

18 minutes ago, Patient Zero said:

Exactly 

This trial is about Depp having to prove to the jury that he didn't abuse Heard. We know that Amber is not a saint and she did abusing as well. But this "doesn't" really matter in this trial, because he did not sue her for the abuse she did to him but for defamation.

 

 

But yes, it is absolutely stupid that some people are taking just one side. They both were deranged and abusive. Neither Heard or Depp are innocent. 

Edited May 18, 2022 by TheCal

[bidet]

good morning to everyone except to the deranged Heard defenders 

[wehavetostan]

13 hours ago, suburbannature said:

Amber Heard never said she abused Johnny Depp. She said she struck him in defensive moves (both of herself and her sister). Abuse victims often face this kind of accusatory rhetoric in legal proceedings to undermine their accusations of abuse as there is typically some kind of evidence of defensive wounds. Having worked with both victims and perpetrators, it is not unusual for victims to actually aggregate physical aggressions at some stages in relationships. This can be due to hyperarousal (i.e. perceiving a threat at all times - sometimes innocuous moments, sometimes genuine threats). The amygdala in the emotional brain immediately sends the person into survival or reptilian brain rather than moving to the prefrontal cortex to determine whether or not there's a genuine threat - the result is panic. This is a major characteristic of people who have experienced trauma or survived abuse. In other situations, the victim may begin to aggregate physical contact after long periods of abuse. This is called reactive abuse.The victim may scream, toss out insults, or even lash out physically at the abuser. The abuser then retaliates by telling the victim that they are, in fact, the abuser. Reactive abuse is often used to discredit victims during litigation, and one of many reasons why an overwhelmingly small number of accusations of abuse actually result in convictions. 

This is very important to note, especially to those who consider the relationship “mutually abusive”

[MARTYN]

1 hour ago, Looolqueen said:

For all the evidence pointing towards Depp being abusive, which I believe he was, there is just as much evidence pointing that Amber is completely deranged and abusive as well. So for people to just take one side while claiming the other party is a completely innocent victim is just..strange to me. How can you see this so black and white?

For me it’s the sheer amount of incidents she has reported but apparently has no evidence for - and then when we hear from Depp’s side it sounds like his recollection fits much better with the evidence provided. It doesn’t help that Amber has lied already under oath about the donations, who’s to say that’s all she’s lying about? 
 

Still doesn’t make half the comments about Amber Heard right, but I don’t think it’s a simple case of not supporting Amber = misogyny.