celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Liafen]

Just now, More Than A Melody said:

You talked about her cutting his finger off

I said allegedly

 

Just now, More Than A Melody said:

despite the fact that it makes no logical sense

To you

 

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

it was dismissed in the UK trial.

In that trial, the publisher of The Sun was the defendant, not Heard. And it was a different case.

 

9 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

 What other instances of abuse are there?

The alleged verbal and physical abuse he presented. I'm not going to list them.

[Liafen]

25 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

It’s not defamation if it’s true. Depp was abusive to Amber and she was abusive to him. 

If both sides were abusive, and Heard conveniently left that out of her op-ed, I'd say that's defamation that greatly impacted his income.

[More Than A Melody]

14 minutes ago, Liafen said:

I said allegedly

Which was proven false

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To you

To the UK court. And to anyone with a brain. Who the f*ck gets his finger cut off by someone else and then dips it in paint and draws d*cks on the walls??

 

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In that trial, the publisher of The Sun was the defendant, not Heard. And it was a different case.

And yet, there were still 12 counts abuse proved at the civil level for Amber... perhaps read the actual court documents?

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The alleged verbal and physical abuse he presented. I'm not going to list them.

He didn't present anything. His testimony included the cut on his finger and that she once didn't want to give him his detox medicine at 3:15 when he was supposed to take it at 4. He described that as:

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Q. Right, so can I just recap what you are saying. Because Ms. Heard followed the letter of the instructions that she was given to give your medication at four o'clock and did not do what you asked for, to give it at 3.15, you describe that as one of the cruellest things she has ever done; is that right?

A. Yes, that is

 

16 minutes ago, Liafen said:

If both sides were abusive, and Heard conveniently left that out of her op-ed, I'd say that's defamation that greatly impacted his income.

But both sides weren't abusive. And even if they had been, that is not how defamation works.

 

I confirm more and more that none of you actually even GLANCED at the court documents.

[Karla Cabello]

johnny is evil. im glad people are starting to realize his lies

Edited May 8, 2022 by Karla Cabello

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Liafen said:

It's 95% clear that the verbal and physical abuse was two-sided in this relationship - yet it was only Miss Heard who decided to defame Depp in public.

How come then Depp didn't decide to publish similar op-eds detailing his experiences as a male victim of domestic abuse? Why did he instead launch several (failed) lawsuits trying to punish Amber for claiming herself as a victim?

 

That in itself shows that Depp likely doesn't view himself as a victim of abuse and is trying to silence Amber for viewing herself a victim to his abuse. Which goes in-hand with what I think I said before in here - most Depp supporters are not coming from the place of defending what they perceive to be a male victim of IPV, but trying to punish what they see as a woman claiming to be a victim without (what they see) as sufficient evidence.

 

You're not bothered that Depp is himself a victim but that Amber thinks she has a right to call herself one.

[Looolqueen]

Amber's own actions and words that have been caught on video, the documented videos of her taunting Johnny and running him down and the audios of her admitting to hitting Johnny in the face and her sarcasm when she told Depp that nobody will believe him over her are, along with the witnesses testimonies, is enough to help me form my own opinion about this case. I don't have to be a fan of either of these 2 people. Depp might be a shitty person, but she's pure deranged psychopath and evil.

[Liafen]

24 minutes ago, Communion said:

How come then Depp didn't decide to publish similar op-eds detailing his experiences as a male victim of domestic abuse? Why did he instead launch several (failed) lawsuits trying to punish Amber for claiming herself as a victim?

Um, because his career was already damaged and decided to take it to the court instead of playing he said she said in the press?  

 

24 minutes ago, Communion said:

That in itself shows that Depp likely doesn't view himself as a victim of abuse and is trying to silence Amber for viewing herself a victim to his abuse.

Hearsay, your honor.

 

24 minutes ago, Communion said:

You're not bothered that Depp is himself a victim but that Amber thinks she has a right to call herself one.

You're putting thoughts in my mind. I'm bothered about the possibility that one party can express in a widely circulated op-ed how he or she was a victim of abuse and thus ultimately destroying his or her partners' professional reputation when it was a two-sided matter. [Strictly talking about professional, because the overwhelming support for Depp shows that his public support is alive and well.] Let's not act like Heard spilling it on a nationwide paper is the same as Depp's reactionary claims that he was abused. Of course both can express their victimhood, but there's a sequence of events here that you're ignoring. If the **** that went down in this relationship was mutually abusive, it's not right for either party to dish to the press how he or she was a victim while conveniently leaving out key details on his or her wrongdoings. 

Edited May 8, 2022 by Liafen

[Apolonio ₃₄]

6 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

Amber's own actions and words that have been caught on video, the documented videos of her taunting Johnny and running him down and the audios of her admitting to hitting Johnny in the face and her sarcasm when she told Depp that nobody will believe him over her are, along with the witnesses testimonies, is enough to help me form my own opinion about this case. I don't have to be a fan of either of these 2 people. Depp might be a shitty person, but she's pure deranged psychopath and evil.

[MasterExpose]

28 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

Amber's own actions and words that have been caught on video, the documented videos of her taunting Johnny and running him down and the audios of her admitting to hitting Johnny in the face and her sarcasm when she told Depp that nobody will believe him over her are, along with the witnesses testimonies, is enough to help me form my own opinion about this case. I don't have to be a fan of either of these 2 people. Depp might be a shitty person, but she's pure deranged psychopath and evil.

That's basically what all this trial is doing, helping people form their own conclusions but some really believe all of them are on his payroll  like I literally see no support for her in any platform simple because nobody's buying what she's saying (and the way she's saying it).

There is however, some people pushing fake stories like the posing for a picture just because the monitor flashed at the wrong moment.

[More Than A Melody]

52 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

 her sarcasm when she told Depp that nobody will believe him over her 

This is why I can't take any of y'all seriously. The actual video in context is

 

"Johnny, you're stronger than me, you hit harder than me, you hurt me and I'm defending myself. Why would anyone believe you, a man, hit a woman, and her hitting back is domestic abuse?"

 

That's... the actual context. But Amber underestimated people's misogyny

 

17 minutes ago, MasterExpose said:

That's basically what all this trial is doing, helping people form their own conclusions but some really believe all of them are on his payroll  like I literally see no support for her in any platform simple because nobody's buying what she's saying (and the way she's saying it).

There is however, some people pushing fake stories like the posing for a picture just because the monitor flashed at the wrong moment.

You see no support on social media for a victim of domestic violence who was attacked for one of Hollywood's darlings. But Johnny Depp lost the easiest trial in history, so maybe the admittedly terrible people that are vocal on social media don't own the truth, huh

[Looolqueen]

29 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

This is why I can't take any of y'all seriously. The actual video in context is

 

"Johnny, you're stronger than me, you hit harder than me, you hurt me and I'm defending myself. Why would anyone believe you, a man, hit a woman, and her hitting back is domestic abuse?"

 

That's... the actual context. But Amber underestimated people's misogyny

Ummm no, this is the actual quote. And where she basically admits that she wasn't hurt.

 

Edited May 8, 2022 by Looolqueen

[applestar]

the bots online deserve a raise for making a case about two drugged out A listers become one of the most personal trials to the public

 

How people project their own personal relationships onto jack sparrow and mera is something that is so laughably narcissistic and telling of the times

 

[More Than A Melody]

10 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

Ummm no, this is the actual quote. And where she basically admits that she wasn't hurt.

 

Did you... not... .listen??? This has got to be a parallel universe sort of thing. She's literally saying it wasn't a fair fight. He attacked her (like he'd been doing for years), she defended herself. He claimed he was going to say he was a victim as well and she snapped because of course it wasn't a fair fight. Of course he's not a victim of domestic violence.

 

She's the textbook definition of domestic violence victims. He has a history of it. He lost his previous case. She has pictures, text messages of his staff admitting he beat her to a pulp. You cannot keep going in circles at this point.

[rac7d]

This has gone on two long

[kawk]

2 hours ago, Karla Cabello said:

johnny is evil. im glad people are starting to realize his lies

who are these people you speak of? atrl users?  

 

no matter what happens, the GP is 100% behind Johnny and aren't buying Amber's cringeworthy performance. 

[Polgg48]

rarely im gonna be on celebria/base for WP baiting threads but

 

almost everyone did choose their side and the result wont change narratives of our minds. its been too long and evidences are presented

 

it doesnt matter at this point, shall move onto inflation and anti-abortion topics after the case. #TeamAmber

[Liafen]

1 hour ago, More Than A Melody said:

Did you... not... .listen??? This has got to be a parallel universe sort of thing. She's literally saying it wasn't a fair fight. He attacked her (like he'd been doing for years), she defended herself. He claimed he was going to say he was a victim as well and she snapped because of course it wasn't a fair fight. Of course he's not a victim of domestic violence.

She's also mocking his defense when he says that she started it, as if it doesn't matter who started the abuse because she wasn't able to "knock him off of his feet". When he asks if she believes that she physically abused him, her only answer to that is the same inconclusive argument you also pulled out - that she's 115 lbs and that he is bigger in size. (Glad that Depp also called this out in the audio.) As if that somehow nullifies aggressive behavior she might (or might not) have pulled off on him. [Cue the 'I can't promise you I won't get physical, I just get so mad audio'] 

 

In the end, you weren't there to know whether it was always about 'fighting back' or not, or whether it was mutual physical and verbal abuse or not. From the outside, it sure does look like Heard did her fair share of wrongdoing in this to the overwhelming majority of people. 

Edited May 8, 2022 by Liafen

[bidet]

3 hours ago, Karla Cabello said:

johnny is evil. im glad people are starting to realize his lies

atrlers are not people

 

 

[KeshaSwift]

Some of y'all have worms for a brain or what? she has ZERO proof of actual abuse from him. Her whole case is built on talking about his addicitions = abusive, which is irrelevant.

He has countless witnesses, proofs, the support of the public and there's the biggest evidence - Amber HERSELF. For completly faking it on the witness stand and fake crying, her testimony from 2016 while snacking on chocolate or smth while speaking (), countless videos of her online being rude and aggresive.
This woman is full of **** and didn't actually think she would have to face her own actions. I'm glad most of the world sees the truth. 

[Raiden]

4 hours ago, Looolqueen said:

Depp might be a shitty person, but she's pure deranged psychopath and evil.

That's why it is inauthentic to "bothsides" it.

 

One doesn't need to be a fan or a hater of either — it suffices to face reality.

 

There is an obvious pattern going back decades and involving multiple victims:

 

 

Edited May 8, 2022 by Raiden

[Raiden]

 

 

[Totami Legend]

4 hours ago, Communion said:

How come then Depp didn't decide to publish similar op-eds detailing his experiences as a male victim of domestic abuse? Why did he instead launch several (failed) lawsuits trying to punish Amber for claiming herself as a victim?

 

That in itself shows that Depp likely doesn't view himself as a victim of abuse and is trying to silence Amber for viewing herself a victim to his abuse. Which goes in-hand with what I think I said before in here - most Depp supporters are not coming from the place of defending what they perceive to be a male victim of IPV, but trying to punish what they see as a woman claiming to be a victim without (what they see) as sufficient evidence.

 

You're not bothered that Depp is himself a victim but that Amber thinks she has a right to call herself one.

Oh wow 

[TheSoneNavy]

6 hours ago, Karla Cabello said:

johnny is evil. im glad people are starting to realize his lies

Who? ATRL?

Most ppl are on Johnnys side  

[plasticboy]

amber turd can rot

[Communion]

57 minutes ago, Liafen said:

instead of playing he said she said in the press?  

...but a defamation suit is literally a legal examination of he said she said? 

 

You keep trying to use the coverage of "well I think they both did something wrong" while ignoring that Depp deciding to pursue a defamation case means he is rejecting the notion that he did anything wrong; he is suing on the basis that labeling him abusive and a wife-beater is rooted in untruthfulness, that that is the entire claim of being defamed.

 

"He's not saying he's not abusive, but that it's wrong for her to leave out she was abusive too" is so ridiculous and obtuse of a defense for why he's doing this because nothing he's done has shown that to be the case. The entire point of the trial is to try and debunk that he was abusive to her (and thus forcing her to pay out damages he incurred from what he is saying was a lie), not that he himself also experienced abuse from their mutually abusive relationship.