celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Skins]

9 minutes ago, Looolqueen said:

 

It’s such a bad look for her that she recorded all of that without his knowledge. 

[GentleDance]

Was there any mention of the 2014 texts with the assistant and Depp in this trial? Are they admissible evidence? 

[More Than A Melody]

4 hours ago, Looolqueen said:

 

Victims of domestic violence may: 

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Want the abuse to end, but not the relationship

Feel isolated

Feel depressed

Feel helpless

Be unaware of what services are available to help them

Be embarrassed of their situation

Fear judgement or stigmatization if their reveal the abuse

Deny or minimize the abuse or make excuses for the abuser

Still love their abuser

Withdraw emotionally

Distance themselves from family or friends

Be impulsive or aggressive

Feel financially dependent on their abuser

Feel guilt related to the relationship

Feel shame

Have anxiety

Have suicidal thoughts

Abuse alcohol or drugs

Be hopeful that their abuser will change and/or stop the abuse

Have religious, cultural, or other beliefs that reinforce staying in the relationship

Have no support from friends of family

Fear cultural, community, or societal backlash that may hinder escape or support

Feel like they have nowhere to go or no ability to get away

Fear they will not be able to support themselves after they escape the abuser

Have children in common with their abuser and fear for their safety if the victim leaves

Have pets or other animals they don't want to leave

Be distrustful of local law enforcement, courts, or other systems if the abuse is revealed

Have had unsupportive experiences with friends, family, employers, law enforcement, courts, child protective services, etc. and believe they won't get help if they leave or fear retribution if they do (e.g. they fear losing custody of their children to the abuser)

 

https://ncadv.org/dynamics-of-abuse

[tiagol88]

5 hours ago, Looolqueen said:

Jesus she sounds like a complete NIGHTMARE and yet people are still somewhat trying to justify thisshe's sooo afraid of him isn't she?

I feel like ATRL is the only place in the world that actually defends her. How can anyone listen to her testimony and believe her?

 

She just mentioned he raped her with a broken bottle. If she has no concrete evidence for this she's done. 

 

She was in no way affected by any of this trial. Her body language is nothing like a domestic victim and seeing her trying to cry and no tears falling has been hilarious to see. 

 

The only thing I can see her proving is that he's an addict tbh. I have yet to see any evidence he was abusive to her

[kawk]

5 hours ago, Looolqueen said:

I can't believe people are still defending her when the audio leaks that SHE recorded clearly show how completely deranged she is.

 

HOW CAN ANYONE STILL DEFEND HER AFTER HEARING THIS??? seriously??? 

Amber defenders: " but but but The Sun!!1 he lost in the UK!!!!  (where the justice system is even more broken than it is in the US)

 

5 hours ago, Looolqueen said:

 

OMG she is crazy, her testimony proves that, her interviews prove that, all these recordings prove she is bat **** crazy. This is why the saying "NEVER stick your dick in crazy" exists.

[feelslikeadream]

Y'all seem to have some real trouble acknowledging that someone can be both an abuser and abused themselves. That tweet @Looolqueen posting saying, "Amber Heard is the sole ABUSER!!" is quite embarrassing; that short audio clip does not prove that she wasn't also abused. In fact, you can read Depp's comment as him acknowledging they had both been physically abusive in the past and he doesn't want that to happen again.

 

Rather than trying to acknowledge the complexity of the relationship, many of y'all are quick to see this case as a "he said/she said" and then side entirely with Depp. From all the evidence we have from both trials (and other statements they've made on the matter), it seems abundantly clear to me that they both brought out the worst in each other and were abusive in myriad ways. Neither one is innocent. So yes, clinging to Depp's ~innocence~ in the matter and only vilifying Heard does come across as misogynistic. They both are at fault and both need a lot of therapy, period.

[Liafen]

17 minutes ago, feelslikeadream said:

Y'all seem to have some real trouble acknowledging that someone can be both an abuser and abused themselves. That tweet @Looolqueen posting saying, "Amber Heard is the sole ABUSER!!" is quite embarrassing; that short audio clip does not prove that she wasn't also abused. In fact, you can read Depp's comment as him acknowledging they had both been physically abusive in the past and he doesn't want that to happen again.

 

Rather than trying to acknowledge the complexity of the relationship, many of y'all are quick to see this case as a "he said/she said" and then side entirely with Depp. From all the evidence we have from both trials (and other statements they've made on the matter), it seems abundantly clear to me that they both brought out the worst in each other and were abusive in myriad ways. Neither one is innocent. So yes, clinging to Depp's ~innocence~ in the matter and only vilifying Heard does come across as misogynistic. They both are at fault and both need a lot of therapy, period.

And the same can be said for the Heard absolutists here who are just as laughable, especially with these types of recordings out for everyone to hear. 

It's 95% clear that the verbal and physical abuse was two-sided in this relationship - yet it was only Miss Heard who decided to defame Depp in public.

[State of Grace.]

Depp's PR machine is literally insane. I am ******* DONE with the videos, posts & tweets I keep getting on Facebook/Twitter.  

 

The way people are treating this like some kinda reality TV show is even more disgusting. People getting popcorn and watching it live.  The overanalysis of their reactions to guess who's "lying", the TikTok sound of Amber talking about him abusing her with girls acting like "Okay? Its Johnny Depp!!", the fans waiting outside of the court to give him gifts, the trend of girls doing make up abuse scars to "prove" she was lying and faking it, 

 

Like I'm not even supporting Amber but I still can't help but feel icky at these things. Barely stopping myself from fighting people on my Facebook feed at this point. I even had to drag one of my close friends for blindly stanning him and we haven't talked in 2 days skfskkf 

 

Both are psycho loons who were in a toxic relationship. Lock them up.

Edited May 8, 2022 by State of Grace.

[manuelalex9810]

This article sums it up perfectly here 

 

 
 

[More Than A Melody]

37 minutes ago, Liafen said:

And the same can be said for the Heard absolutists here who are just as laughable, especially with these types of recordings out for everyone to hear. 

It's 95% clear that the verbal and physical abuse was two-sided in this relationship - yet it was only Miss Heard who decided to defame Depp in public.

Let's say this ONE MORE TIME:

Ages when they met (March 25 2009 during production of The Rum Diary):

Amber Heard: 22 (April 1986)

Johnny Depp:  45 (June 1963)

 

Role in the movie they met in:

Amber Heard: supporting female

Johnny Depp: producer, leading male

 

BONUS: During the filming of this movie, Johnny gave her expensive gifts, asked her to his trailer to "practice kissing scenes", kicked the back of her robe when she was naked beneath, and said "yum" about her ass... both of them were in relationships.

 

Amount of roles they'd had when they met:

Amber Heard: 13 (tiny roles)

Johnny Depp: 40+ (most of them leading)

 

Net worth when they met:

Amber Heard: N/A (she was broke)

Johnny Depp: 500M+

 

Height and weight:

Amber Heard: 5'7" and 132 pounds

Johnny Depp: 5'9" and 172 pounds

 

History of violence:

Amber Heard: N/A

Johnny Depp: 4 arrests for violent offenses, multiple exes claiming he's jealous, controlling, and violent

 

Court rulings in favor of their arguments:

Amber Heard: 1 in the UK

Johnny Depp: N/A

 

Amount of exes testifying for them in court:

Amber Heard: her literal only ex before Johnny

Johnny Depp: N/A

 

Amount of exes of the other party testifying for them in court:

Amber Heard: 1, Johnny's ex Ellin

Johnny Depp: N/A

 

Victims of domestic violence (of which Johnny Depp has A LENGTHY HISTORY OF) often retaliate and fight back. There isn't an inch of "both are toxic" here. And Amber had every right to write an Op Ed about her personal experience... which didn't even name him.

[tiagol88]

10 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

 

 

History of violence:

Amber Heard: N/A

Johnny Depp: 4 arrests for violent offenses, multiple exes claiming he's jealous, controlling, and violent

 

 

Really? So these charges never happened?

 

 

Btw...notice how Amber behaves when the public isn't watching her, vs the current trial. lmao

[Liafen]

12 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Let's say this ONE MORE TIME:

Ages when they met (March 25 2009 during production of The Rum Diary):

Amber Heard: 22 (April 1986)

Johnny Depp:  45 (June 1963)

 

Role in the movie they met in:

Amber Heard: supporting female

Johnny Depp: producer, leading male

 

BONUS: During the filming of this movie, Johnny gave her expensive gifts, asked her to his trailer to "practice kissing scenes", kicked the back of her robe when she was naked beneath, and said "yum" about her ass... both of them were in relationships.

 

Amount of roles they'd had when they met:

Amber Heard: 13 (tiny roles)

Johnny Depp: 40+ (most of them leading)

 

Net worth when they met:

Amber Heard: N/A (she was broke)

Johnny Depp: 500M+

 

Height and weight:

Amber Heard: 5'7" and 132 pounds

Johnny Depp: 5'9" and 172 pounds

 

History of violence:

Amber Heard: N/A

Johnny Depp: 4 arrests for violent offenses, multiple exes claiming he's jealous, controlling, and violent

 

Court rulings in favor of their arguments:

Amber Heard: 1 in the UK

Johnny Depp: N/A

 

Amount of exes testifying for them in court:

Amber Heard: her literal only ex before Johnny

Johnny Depp: N/A

 

Amount of exes of the other party testifying for them in court:

Amber Heard: 1, Johnny's ex Ellin

Johnny Depp: N/A

 

Victims of domestic violence (of which Johnny Depp has A LENGTHY HISTORY OF) often retaliate and fight back. There isn't an inch of "both are toxic" here. And Amber had every right to write an Op Ed about her personal experience... which didn't even name him.

Yeah uhumm so a 2-inch difference in height and her previous supporting roles stop her from allegedy cutting his fingers off and means that he's the only one who can resort to physical damage. Uhumm. That's not how this works. Just because the power dynamic of the relationship skews towards Depp's favor due to his status and wealth, that doesn't automatically mean that she can't abuse him both verbally and physically. Stop with the bootlicking, it's not a good look. There's a ******* tape out there just quoted above where he asks for distance if things would get physical and her replying with "I can't promise I won't get physical again. God, I ******* sometimes get so mad... I lose it" for f*cks sake  

Edited May 8, 2022 by Liafen

[More Than A Melody]

3 minutes ago, tiagol88 said:

Really? So these charges never happened?

 

 

Btw...notice how Amber behaves when the public isn't watching her, vs the current trial. lmao

I literally addressed this already, lmao:

 

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Amber Heard’s ex-girlfriend Tasya van Ree has defended the actress against reports of a 2009 incident where Heard was accused of assaulting van Ree, saying the pair were subject to “misogynistic” and “homophobic“ attitudes.

Earlier this week, TMZ reported that in 2009 Heard was arrested for “misdemeanor domestic violence” after an incident with van Ree, who Heard dated for five years, at Seattle-Tacoma International airport. The gossip website reported that prosecutors decided not to file charges against the 30-year-old.

 

Photographer van Ree has now responded to the reports, claiming Heard was “wrongfully accused” of the crime and said in statement the accusation was a result of misogynistic and homophobic attitudes towards the couple.

 

“In 2009, Amber was wrongfully accused for an incident that was misinterpreted and over-sensationalised by two individuals in a power position.

“I recount hints of misogynistic attitudes toward us which later appeared to be homophobic when they found out we were domestic partners and not just ‘friends’. Charges were quickly dropped and she was released moments later.”

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/amber-heard-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-domestic-violence-allegations-a7072126.html

Maybe do more research? Tasya is literally a witness ON AMBER'S BEHALF.

[suburbannature]

4 minutes ago, Liafen said:

Yeah uhumm so a 2-inch difference in height and her previous supporting roles stop her from allegedy cutting his fingers off and means that he's the only one who can resort to physical damage. Uhumm. That's not how this works. Just because the power dynamic of the relationship skews towards Depp's favor due to his status and wealth, that doesn't automatically mean that she can't abuse him both verbally and physically. Stop with the bootlicking, it's not a good look. There's a ******* tape out there just quoted above where he asks for distance if things would get physical and her replying with "I can't promise I won't get physical again. God, I ******* sometimes get so mad... I lose it" for f*cks sake  

He’s literally on tape saying he cut his own finger off 

[tiagol88]

3 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

He’s literally on tape saying he cut his own finger off 

He's also on tape saying it was her and her admiting she didn't mean to do any of that so ...

[State of Grace.]

This entire mess also making me realize that he dated 17 year old Winona and took her virginity when he was pushing 26, how come I've never seen people talking about it  

[suburbannature]

Just now, tiagol88 said:

He's also on tape saying it was her and her admiting she didn't mean to do any of that so ...

That is not what happens in that tape

 

Depp fans are truly cult like 

[Liafen]

Just now, suburbannature said:

He’s literally on tape saying he cut his own finger off 

Hence the allegedly. Ultimately, whether the domestic and physical abuse that went on in this relationship was started by either Heard or Depp and then reciprocated or not is not up to two-inch height differences, weight differences, previous roles in Hollywood or money in their bank account. They're not defining arguments as Heard bootlickers like to use them. Yes, all these skew Depp towards the "power" figure in the relationship but it doesn't mean that Heard can't get physically and verbally abusive. 

[More Than A Melody]

3 minutes ago, Liafen said:

Yeah uhumm so a 2-inch difference in height and her previous supporting roles stop her from allegedy cutting his fingers off and means that he's . Uhumm. Just because the power dynamic of the relationship skews towards Depp's favor due to his status and wealth, that doesn't automatically mean that she can't abuse him both verbally and physically. Stop with the bootlicking, it's not a good look. There's a ******* tape out there just quoted above where he asks for distance if things would get physical and her replying with "I can't promise I won't get physical again. God, I ******* sometimes get so mad... I lose it" for f*cks sake  

So you think she cut off his finger (which he claimed was because she threw a bottle at him, not because she actually meant to cut his finger), and then he wrote on the walls including drawings of d*cks, and then he dipped that finger into paint, and drew not only on the walls but also on lamp shades, mirrors, counters... You think Amber did that and he refused to call 911, refused to call security, refused to get the finger checked, used that finger to paint everywhere, dipped it into paint... until AMBER made him call security hours later? You think that makes an inch of sense instead of his own drunk and high self cutting off his own finger and behaving erratically, which... we HAVE PROOF OF?

 

It doesn't automatically mean that, of course it doesn't but HE HAS A HISTORY OF DOING IT AND SHE DOESN'T. She's claiming he abused her! She has texts and photos and emails and multiple witnesses. There are texts from Johnny's own staff saying he beat her to a pulp and kicked her. This text exchange exists:

 

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Jerry Judge (Johnny’s bodyguard) asks Josh Drew (Amber’s penthouse neighbour): “is she ok?”

Josh: Are you f*cking kidding me? He beat the sh*t out of her again, and you guys stood by and watched it”
Jerry: “Its not my business. It’s between husband and wife. He barely touched her.”

 

Source: UK court documents (page 119)

 

You guys are so obtuse. You clearly have not actually paid attention to a single thing!

[suburbannature]

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

So you think she cut off his finger (which he claimed was because she threw a bottle at him, not because she actually meant to cut his finger), and then he wrote on the walls including drawings of d*cks, and then he dipped that finger into paint, and drew not only on the walls but also on lamp shades, mirrors, counters... You think Amber did that and he refused to call 911, refused to call security, refused to get the finger checked, used that finger to paint everywhere, dipped it into paint... until AMBER made him call security hours later? You think that makes an inch of sense instead of his own drunk and high self cutting off his own finger and behaving erratically, which... we HAVE PROOF OF?

 

It doesn't automatically mean that, of course it doesn't but HE HAS A HISTORY OF DOING IT AND SHE DOESN'T. She's claiming he abused her! She has texts and photos and emails and multiple witnesses. There are texts from Johnny's own staff saying he beat her to a pulp and kicked her. This text exchange exists:

 

Source: UK court documents (page 119)

 

You guys are so obtuse. You clearly have not actually paid attention to a single thing!

Will that be cited in the US trial? 

[Liafen]

2 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

So you think she cut off his finger (which he claimed was because she threw a bottle at him, not because she actually meant to cut his finger), and then he wrote on the walls including drawings of d*cks, and then he dipped that finger into paint, and drew not only on the walls but also on lamp shades, mirrors, counters... You think Amber did that and he refused to call 911, refused to call security, refused to get the finger checked, used that finger to paint everywhere, dipped it into paint... until AMBER made him call security hours later? You think that makes an inch of sense instead of his own drunk and high self cutting off his own finger and behaving erratically, which... we HAVE PROOF OF?

No, I do not think that. I think that all those things you listed aren't defining arguments to be had when talking about whether she abused him or not. 

 

4 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

She has texts and photos and emails and multiple witnesses.

So does Depp. It's like you refuse to acknowledge his photos and recordings about the abuse he allegedly received. Just like Depp stans, you turn a blind eye and that's "fighting back" for you. 

[More Than A Melody]

Just now, suburbannature said:

Will that be cited in the US trial? 

I don't know, I hope so. I don't know what needs to happen for them to be able to invoke it. There are other texts as well, from Deuters to Amber saying he saw Johnny kick her on the plane and that it wasn't the first time he abused her, he also sent a text to a third party saying the same thing.

 

This man first went on record saying that the texts were fabricated, when they were introduced in the UK case and he couldn't claim that anymore, he changed his story and claimed that he'd sent her that to "placate her" which makes no sense considering he'd also sent the same text to someone else.

 

There's SO much damning evidence against Johnny. People arguing this cannot know 5% of it otherwise they wouldn't be defending him or calling it "a toxic relationship on both sides"... I want to believe that it's ignorance and that they don't actually hate women that much, at least.

[MAKSIM]

1 hour ago, Liafen said:

And the same can be said for the Heard absolutists here who are just as laughable, especially with these types of recordings out for everyone to hear. 

It's 95% clear that the verbal and physical abuse was two-sided in this relationship - yet it was only Miss Heard who decided to defame Depp in public.

It’s not defamation if it’s true. Depp was abusive to Amber and she was abusive to him. I do think the toxicity of the relationship spiraled by both sides because of his addiction and alcoholism. 

[More Than A Melody]

1 minute ago, Liafen said:

No, I do not think that. I think that all those things you listed aren't defining arguments to be had when talking about whether she abused him or not. 

 

So does Depp. It's like you refuse to acknowledge his photos and recordings about the abuse he allegedly received. Just like Depp stans, you turn a blind eye and that's "fighting back" for you. 

You talked about her cutting his finger off, despite the fact that it makes no logical sense and it was dismissed in the UK trial. What other instances of abuse are there? List them here...

 

Depp does not have photos of abuse. He has one photo of his finger being cut off, which we already discussed. And his witnesses are LITERALLY all on his payroll. Check it for yourself.

[Liafen]

Just now, More Than A Melody said:

You talked about her cutting his finger off

I said allegedly

 

Just now, More Than A Melody said:

despite the fact that it makes no logical sense

To you

 

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

it was dismissed in the UK trial.

In that trial, the publisher of The Sun was the defendant, not Heard. And it was a different case.

 

9 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

 What other instances of abuse are there?

The alleged verbal and physical abuse he presented. I'm not going to list them.