celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[NausAllien]

2 minutes ago, Death On Two Legs said:

Heard is making my blood boil.

 

If a woman, who already proved in a court of law at least 12 instances of abuse by Depp, telling her story and the awful things she experienced makes your blood boil, that says a lot about the type of person you are.

[suburbannature]

2 minutes ago, Death On Two Legs said:

 

I never defended Bill Cosby - STFU and stop quoting me.

You do have a history of defending men accused of assault, dear. MJ comes to mind, but I said Cosby by mistake. 
 

either way - explains why you’re so anti-Heard.

 

it’s a forum. I’ll quote you whenever I want. 

[MasterExpose]

I don't think talking directly to the jury means anything tbh. Checking notes like the lady during a testimony makes you look like reading a script. Atleast she's sounded more prepared today. Btw I'm scared for the people paying her for therapy, someone that says she doesn't need to listen to the other party involved in a relationship is  

Edited May 4, 2022 by MasterExpose
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[Obsession]

Regardless of who you believe, it's very much fair and the point of a trial to have both sides of the case give their testimony. 

 

I believe her though. And even if I didn't, I don't think he should be allowed to claim defamation off an op-ed in which he was never named. 

[NausAllien]

5 minutes ago, Obsession said:

I believe her though. And even if I didn't, I don't think he should be allowed to claim defamation off an op-ed in which he was never named. 

If you read the op-ed carefully, she doesn't even talk about any specific. She simply states that she became "a public figure representing domestic abuse" which is factually true. So I don't understand why this lawsuit wasn't dismissed on that fact alone. 

 

It's also ludicrous to claim this op-ed hurt him financially when nothing new was revealed. Everything that you could infer from the op-ed (that she had been abused) was already known since 2016.

 

So regardless of all the she-said/he-said and witnesses, evidence, etc. the very basis of this lawsuit is insane. If you can get sued for talking about your OWN experience without naming any names, then free speech doesn't exist.

[TeemoR]

Is anyone on Amber's side?  

[MAKSIM]

There’s enough evidence to support that he was toxic and both emotionally and physically abusive, even if she retaliated and engaged in abuse as well. There’s no way a defamation case should be found in his favor. 

[C-Amber]

Did she just claimed that he slapped her 3 times so hard but then carried on saying it didn't physically hurt her but she noticed the carpet was dirty immediately after that......  sound like bs, there is absolutely no DV victim that will go on focusing and talking about how the weather and furniture look liked on their first time being physically abused!! The shock will be too overwhelming and big, about the emotions and pain, not how the carpet looked like.

[Bears01]

39 minutes ago, TeemoR said:

Is anyone on Amber's side?  

Yeah, a website where a ton of users have no friends off of Twitter: ATRL

[NausAllien]

1 minute ago, C-Amber said:

 sound like bs, there is absolutely no DV victim that will go on focusing and talking about how the weather and furniture look liked on their first time being physically abused!! The shock will be too overwhelming and big, about the emotions and pain, not how the carpet looked like.

Are you an expert on DM and IPV? It's very presumptuous of you to claim to know exactly what a victim would think, feel and do in a situation like that.

 

[Communion]

1 hour ago, Bears01 said:

Heard giving a razzie level performance on the stand  once again ATRL=completely out of touch with the real world. No surprise though 

Given that the vast majority of men who beat, rape, and kill their wives get away with it, I'm not sure it's a dunk to claim that society at large believes the objectively abusive man over his former partner. Like he could have killed her and still have fans. That's how 99% of domestic violence cases go. 

[C-Amber]

1 minute ago, NausAllien said:

Are you an expert on DM and IPV? It's very presumptuous of you to claim to know exactly what a victim would think, feel and do in a situation like that.

 

I am a victim of DV, I know personally many like me, never once they remembered all the details, NOT ONCE. It's blurred vision, the trauma is way bigger that your mind automatically delete it from your memory. it's almost impossible to remember the exact events one after another, let alone go and remember how the furniture looked like!!!

 

And now go off and stop being obsessed with everyone replying on JD defensive as if Amber hired u. This weird asf.

[suburbannature]

14 minutes ago, C-Amber said:

Did she just claimed that he slapped her 3 times so hard but then carried on saying it didn't physically hurt her but she noticed the carpet was dirty immediately after that......  sound like bs, there is absolutely no DV victim that will go on focusing and talking about how the weather and furniture look liked on their first time being physically abused!! The shock will be too overwhelming and big, about the emotions and pain, not how the carpet looked like.

That’s patently false (and I’m an expert).

[C-Amber]

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

That’s patently false (and I’m an expert).

Nah you aren't. And memory loss in DV victims are very common and almost happened to all of them, and there are literal studies on it and how to treat it as it will help the victims in RL and in courts and stuff. But Ms. Heard is right there talking about years of mental and physical abuse infront of her alleged abuser and go smiling and and remember EVERYTHING even the carpet??? A joke written itself. She just taking down every actual victim on the real world and will make it harder for everyone else.

[JustHoran]

Of course this site believes her lies  I've seen literally no one else fall for her BS lies

 

I'm not even a Johnny fan, but she's such a liar.

[suburbannature]

Just now, C-Amber said:

Nah you aren't. And memory loss in DV victims are very common and almost happened to all of them, and there are literal studies on it and how to treat it as it will help the victims in RL and in courts and stuff. But Ms. Heard is right there talking about years of mental and physical abuse infront of her alleged abuser and go smiling and and remember EVERYTHING even the carpet??? A joke written itself. She just taking down every actual victim on the real world and will make it harder for everyone else.

Yeah, I am - for work with victims and perpetrators  

 

Many victims do not experience memory loss, which can be a coping mechanism or a symptom of a correlating or subsequent mental health disorder. Many victims experience full recollection - often to the point of ruminative and compulsive re-experiences of the event. Some become hyperaware of details in the environment in which the abuse took place in order to distract their mind from the painful event. It’s an inherent survival skill that occurs when the mind moves from the emotional to survival brain at the onset of a stressor.

[JustHoran]

1 hour ago, TeemoR said:

Is anyone on Amber's side?  

Only on ATRL it appears.

[C-Amber]

8 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

Yeah, I am - for work with victims and perpetrators  

 

Many victims do not experience memory loss, which can be a coping mechanism or a symptom of a correlating or subsequent mental health disorder. Many victims experience full recollection - often to the point of ruminative and compulsive re-experiences of the event. Some become hyperaware of details in the environment in which the abuse took place in order to distract their mind from the painful event. It’s an inherent survival skill that occurs when the mind moves from the emotional to survival brain at the onset of a stressor.

The alleged victim literally said he slapped her three times so hard (and she said that multiple times) but them said immediately after that it didn't hurt her but she noticed the carpet was dirty!!! Do u even see and read how a bunch of lies on this. There is absolutely no victim will say bs like this, and IN FRONT of their alleged abuser who she kept eye contact with him for weeks now and calling him Johnny in sweet way as if she still controlling him ?

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[JustHoran]

13 minutes ago, C-Amber said:

Nah you aren't. And memory loss in DV victims are very common and almost happened to all of them, and there are literal studies on it and how to treat it as it will help the victims in RL and in courts and stuff. But Ms. Heard is right there talking about years of mental and physical abuse infront of her alleged abuser and go smiling and and remember EVERYTHING even the carpet??? A joke written itself. She just taking down every actual victim on the real world and will make it harder for everyone else.

Everything you've said is true.

 

My mother was a victim of domestic violence and she can't even remember half of it anymore. 

[suburbannature]

Just now, JustHoran said:

Everything you've said is true.

 

My mother was a victim of domestic violence and she can't even remember half of it anymore. 

That’s not true for all (or even most) victims.

[Raspy]

that liar never was and never will be a good actress that’s for sure

[NausAllien]

47 minutes ago, C-Amber said:

I am a victim of DV, I know personally many like me, never once they remembered all the details, NOT ONCE. It's blurred vision, the trauma is way bigger that your mind automatically delete it from your memory. it's almost impossible to remember the exact events one after another, let alone go and remember how the furniture looked like!!!

 

And now go off and stop being obsessed with everyone replying on JD defensive as if Amber hired u. This weird asf.

If you are a survivor of DV yourself, you should demonstrate a little bit of empathy and at least approach this issue with an open, rather than trying to discredit a potential victim just because their experience is different from yours. If you want to question her testimony on the basis of facts, that's fine. Use evidence, text messages, witnesses, etc. as a way to support your claim. Don't speculate and presume to know how every survivor of DV would react. 

 

Additionally, you could do some research if you're curious about how some survivors remember their trauma while others don't. This article, for example, is a good starting point:

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The effect of fear, threat or states of intense stress on memory can result in intensified memory recollection, or it can result in fragmented or impaired memories. Both are the result of the stress hormones released (the HPA axis) when the defence circuitry is activated.

Some elements of traumatic memories are more acutely remembered. The adrenal glands release adrenaline, which has been shown to help encode memories to the hippocampus more intensely.

A burst of adrenaline is thought to enhance memory storage of the events closer to the onset of a traumatic or highly stressful event. This strengthens memory pathways and creates what are referred to as “flashbulb memories.” (McGaugh, 2000)

It is not unusual for victims of sexual assault to have some full and vivid memories about the beginning of a sexual assault when the defence circuitry was first triggered and the initial burst of stress hormones were released. As well, central details or aspects of the experience that were of most significance may be intensely remembered.

Experiences with emotional significance are more likely to be consolidated into episodic memory and made available for intentional, conscious recollection than those with little or no emotional significance. The brain encodes what it pays attention to. During a threatening event, the brain focuses on what is central to survival so it does not focus on insignificant and peripheral details, so it does not encode them.

[TasteOfYourLips]

42 minutes ago, JustHoran said:

Of course this site believes her lies  I've seen literally no one else fall for her BS lies

 

I'm not even a Johnny fan, but she's such a liar.

Yeah only this site and the UK court fell for Amber's 'lies'.

[C-Amber]

1 minute ago, NausAllien said:

If you are a survivor of DV yourself, you should demonstrate a little bit of empathy and at least approach this issue with an open, rather than trying to discredit a potential victim just because their experience is different from yours. If you want to question her testimony on the basis of facts, that's fine. Use evidence, text messages, witnesses, etc. as a way to support your claim. Don't speculate and presume to know how every survivor of DV would react. 

 

Additionally, you could do some research if you're curious about how some survivors remember their trauma while others don't. This article, for example, is a good starting point:

 

And I am doing that, for the one who his finger cut off and a cigarette was put off on his head, while the other one claimed to be abused and hit one day, then the exact following day goes with friends publicly laughing with zero bruises on her body that she claimed she had a day before. One this she's definitely did it taking us women years back in fighting against abuse. She can't even fake tears and keeps trying to cry and nothing comes out, even on the deposition where she talked about abuse while eating!!! Gtfo and stop quoting everyone AGAIN.

[jqnetto]

people siding with a certified wife beater. 

 

society failed.