4RCH1M3D35 Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, shelven said: I’m back to being confused by what they’re doing with this song. What exactly is the point of the fan video if a full music video is supposedly coming soon? The fan video will presumably take at least a few days to edit, so we’re probably not getting it until the end of next week at the earliest. And then we’re basically in May and still don’t have the official video. Why not just release the official video now? And sorry, but like… the fan video’s going to do nothing The visualizer and the Fallon performance both flopped hard in terms of views. The only thing that might actually do numbers is the music video, so I really don’t get why that isn’t the #1 priority I've given up trying to understand anything they do. "It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma". It's above me now. But, when I watch the behind the music stories about hit songs and artists I am getting to realize that the dysfunction is everywhere. Even for songs that end up blowing up.
shelven Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, PlayingWithFire said: Well for those reasons you listed, I think it’s just a thank you for the fans who love the song. I’m just glad that she’s starting to find other ways to interact with the Nation Yeah it’s cute for fandom purposes, I’m just worried it’s going to get in the way of actual good promotion Like @popularmoonlight said, I think this works if the official video comes out within a few days of the fan one. But if this is going to push the video by a few more weeks, I think it defeats the purpose. An aggressive radio push can only do so much if the song’s nonexistent in streaming and in Shazams. The song will eventually start freefalling unless it gets phenomenal callouts. And then what was the point of all of this when we could have jumped straight to the uptempo
Jared Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, 4RCH1M3D35 said: It is so uplifting to the spirit when driving out to get lunch and hearing Fair followed by Wild Side 3 songs later on the same radio station. I also heard Fair when driving in to work. Yes the only reason I had the radio on is to see if they were going to play Mani. Queen of urban radio HITS.
Jared Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, WheresJay said: Fair is going to be floating around on radio for some time. The music video will release near the 3rd single and album announcement, which will maximize her visibility. Thank you for the update king. Fair is meant to be a slow burner. When she does the 1-2 punch with the Fair MV and then the uptempo MV she will be trending for days.
Jai Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 won't lie; this one wasn't an immediate stick for me but I bop to it a lot now.
Aaliyah Kylie Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, WheresJay said: Fair is going to be floating around on radio for some time. The music video will release near the 3rd single and album announcement, which will maximize her visibility. trust me, we get it lol. i def think fair is gunna shock ppl and be successful slowly. i dont see anything wrong with a fan video and i think you guys are being dramatic. she did a full week of press, a fan video is a great way for her to interact w her fans ESPECIALLY when ppl call her mute and boring, this'll at least show she has a connection w her fans. i think the music video should drop then she announce her next single the week after, so like jay said it should be back to back.
Aaliyah Kylie Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, AntiHarmony said: I’ve sortof thought this as well. With a new single coming in May, I wouldnt be surprised if the MV sorta teased or lead into the new single. that is what needs to happen actually. def needs to tease the next single at the end of the "fair" video..
NormaniReign Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 I think she should wait a bit...and release the video towards the end of April. If things went on my way she should drop it once the radios impact start reflecting on streams but she got no time now. On May we need the uptempo
AFullMoonlight Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, WheresJay said: Fair is going to be floating around on radio for some time. The music video will release near the 3rd single and album announcement, which will maximize her visibility. Always swooping in with the clarity.
AFullMoonlight Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 I’m definitely here for a T-Shirt situation at the end of the video, but…actually release the song.
lovely88 Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, shelven said: I’m back to being confused by what they’re doing with this song. What exactly is the point of the fan video if a full music video is supposedly coming soon? The fan video will presumably take at least a few days to edit, so we’re probably not getting it until the end of next week at the earliest. And then we’re basically in May and still don’t have the official video. Why not just release the official video now? And sorry, but like… the fan video’s going to do nothing The visualizer and the Fallon performance both flopped hard in terms of views. The only thing that might actually do numbers is the music video, so I really don’t get why that isn’t the #1 priority This single was something Normani wanted to put out there for herself to show different flavors from her album. I personally would have made Fair the third single but she isn’t wrong to release it. The issue with her is always keeping up momentum. So I’m glad that the uptempo is coming next month, which is the one they will probably spend their resources on pushing. (Awards shows, talk shows, etc)
Protocol Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 After seeing these Camila numbers......she better add "Dancing with a Stranger", "Love Lies", "Diamonds", "Motivation", "Slow Down", "Checklist", and "Waves" to a streaming deluxe edition of the album. We will not be having any 25k first week sales no ma'am.
shelven Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Protocol said: After seeing these Camila numbers......she better add "Dancing with a Stranger", "Love Lies", "Diamonds", "Motivation", "Slow Down", "Checklist", and "Waves" to a streaming deluxe edition of the album. We will not be having any 25k first week sales no ma'am. Adding those songs wouldn't really affect the first week sales. They'd affect the album's sales overall, but only streams that actually took place during the first week factor into first week sales. So all you'd get is a tiny bump from the bit of recurrent streaming that DWAS and LL still get every week. Personally I hope she doesn't tack on her older songs for the sake of boosting overall sales. Most of those songs are pretty old by now and some of them (like Motivation and DWAS) seem completely at odds with the type of album she's creating based on Wild Side and Fair.
Protocol Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, shelven said: Adding those songs wouldn't really affect the first week sales. They'd affect the album's sales overall, but only streams that actually took place during the first week factor into first week sales. So all you'd get is a tiny bump from the bit of recurrent streaming that DWAS and LL still get every week. Personally I hope she doesn't tack on her older songs for the sake of boosting overall sales. Most of those songs are pretty old by now and some of them (like Motivation and DWAS) seem completely at odds with the type of album she's creating based on Wild Side and Fair. I just think that with her album finally being out it will definitely drive some streams to the rest of her catalogue, so may as well add those songs on since they kind of are still part of her debut phase of her career, and it will benefit the album's numbers.
Mrs. Jay Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Protocol said: After seeing these Camila numbers......she better add "Dancing with a Stranger", "Love Lies", "Diamonds", "Motivation", "Slow Down", "Checklist", and "Waves" to a streaming deluxe edition of the album. We will not be having any 25k first week sales no ma'am. I mean…There’s a lot of excuses that can be pulled out for a low debut for Normani. She’s still a new(ish) artist on her first album, least popular member in 5H, less than 10 mil Insta followers, no TTH Spotify payola or out the gate radio deals, no longterm solo hits, no #1s under her belt, R&B music, minority disadvantage…not as many excuses for the other one
URBAN Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 Been jamming to this bop by Ms. Mani. Still rooting for my girl!
halfhabibi Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 4 hours ago, WheresJay said: Fair is going to be floating around on radio for some time. The music video will release near the 3rd single and album announcement, which will maximize her visibility. So there's a music video for Fair? Or is that for the 3rd single?
Getlikemike Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 happy to be back I missed this high society of stans (twitter is killing me) I love how she’s not doing anything grand this Friday or next Friday, cus it’s definitely Coachella weekend back to back, which all the girls will be focused on so doing anything wouldn’t be the smartest move. Fan video —>Official Video —>New Single —>performance at BBMAs is looking reallllllll possible
popularmoonlight Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 I honestly think we'll be happily surprised with her album numbers. People are curious about her debut album, even if they like her or not.
lovely88 Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Protocol said: After seeing these Camila numbers......she better add "Dancing with a Stranger", "Love Lies", "Diamonds", "Motivation", "Slow Down", "Checklist", and "Waves" to a streaming deluxe edition of the album. We will not be having any 25k first week sales no ma'am. I doubt any of those songs will move the needle in a major way.
Flare Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Getlikemike said: happy to be back I missed this high society of stans (twitter is killing me) I love how she’s not doing anything grand this Friday or next Friday, cus it’s definitely Coachella weekend back to back, which all the girls will be focused on so doing anything wouldn’t be the smartest move. Fan video —>Official Video —>New Single —>performance at BBMAs is looking reallllllll possible Coachella is starting this weekend? Wow. If that’s true, it makes sense to have the fan video be next weekend. I am hoping the release is like this (because Normani is running out of time for a debut performance of a new single at the BBMAs): Fair Fan Video: April 22-ish Fair Video: April 29 Some kind of teaser for the uptempo: May 6-ish Uptempo released for the BBMAs May 13th. However I doubt that because we really haven’t heard anything about Normani rehearsing and usually she would be rehearsing by now if something was coming.
popularmoonlight Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Flare said: Coachella is starting this weekend? Wow. If that’s true, it makes sense to have the fan video be next weekend. I am hoping the release is like this (because Normani is running out of time for a debut performance of a new single at the BBMAs): Fair Fan Video: April 22-ish Fair Video: April 29 Some kind of teaser for the uptempo: May 6-ish Uptempo released for the BBMAs May 13th. However I doubt that because we really haven’t heard anything about Normani rehearsing and usually she would be rehearsing by now if something was coming. She's hiding pretty well these past few weeks. We know she shot a MV (or multiple) but we know nothing about it. When WS was shot she posted about it everywhere, and her dancers did too. I see that schedule happening. I actually am praying that it's going to happen. Album annoucement somewhere between May 6th - 13th. And that's on that
Getlikemike Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Flare said: Coachella is starting this weekend? Wow. If that’s true, it makes sense to have the fan video be next weekend. I am hoping the release is like this (because Normani is running out of time for a debut performance of a new single at the BBMAs): Fair Fan Video: April 22-ish Fair Video: April 29 Some kind of teaser for the uptempo: May 6-ish Uptempo released for the BBMAs May 13th. However I doubt that because we really haven’t heard anything about Normani rehearsing and usually she would be rehearsing by now if something was coming. We’re always on the same wavelength Flare cus this is the best way she could do it honestly. I know mani will get it done. These past few weeks of promo have me feeling very optimistic for RCA
shelven Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Flare said: Fair Fan Video: April 22-ish Fair Video: April 29 Some kind of teaser for the uptempo: May 6-ish Uptempo released for the BBMAs May 13th. This would be great, a new “event” every week would be perfect to keep the hype going consistently. (And the fact that it’s perfect is how I know her team won’t do it )
Khamis Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Mrs. Jay said: I mean…There’s a lot of excuses that can be pulled out for a low debut for Normani. She’s still a new(ish) artist on her first album, least popular member in 5H, less than 10 mil Insta followers, no TTH Spotify payola or out the gate radio deals, no longterm solo hits, no #1s under her belt, R&B music, minority disadvantage…not as many excuses for the other one I’m sickened by the accuracy. Omg this has so much going against it… including Normani herself
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