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[Benjamin]

Surprised how diverse this leadership campaign is, Tories the party of diversity?

 

Especially surprised by Badenoch. Literally have never heard of her before and now it wouldn't be much of a surprise if she snatched. One to watch for the next leadership election after the next General Election.

 

I mean, the only thing I know about her is that she hates gender neutral bathrooms, but she's doing well in Conservative voters internal polls 

[Unoriginal]

@Diarrhoea when are we doing a modern britain prime minister rate (ie from churchill’s post-war term to johnson)? 

[Diarrhoea]

5 hours ago, Unoriginal said:

@Diarrhoea when are we doing a modern britain prime minister rate (ie from churchill’s post-war term to johnson)? 

First of all Attlee is the start x

 

Second of all 15 women having a mid-off

[CaptainMusic]

On 7/12/2022 at 3:46 PM, Benjamin said:

Surprised how diverse this leadership campaign is, Tories the party of diversity?

 

Especially surprised by Badenoch. Literally have never heard of her before and now it wouldn't be much of a surprise if she snatched. One to watch for the next leadership election after the next General Election.

 

I mean, the only thing I know about her is that she hates gender neutral bathrooms, but she's doing well in Conservative voters internal polls 

I was shocked to see that she seems to be the most popular on DailyMail (along with Mordaunt) based on the comments  

 

I also never heard of her until now, definitely one to watch in a few years if she keeps being awful and telling the Tory voters what they want to her. 
 

All these choices are terrible though.  

[Apocalipstick]

PM4PM? 

 

She seems the most electable out of the lot. I think Kemi's gonna be a rising star of the Tories after this leadership contest. Ideologically not for me but both seems worlds apart from BoJo

[Jack!]

Penny is a wolf in sheep's clothing. She literally went back on her stance about the Gender Recognition Act about two days ago. She herself knows being a conservative with somewhat leftist views isn't going to clamber enough power for her in her party so she's pandering. It could be a clever act into making her party members believe she's more on their side than we are led to think, but in an opposite notion she could then have been playing a clever act with members of the marginalised public, making them believe she was on their side. As with anyone in this party, it goes to show, you really can't trust a tory.

 

I can't believe I think this, but once a new leader is chosen a GE is probably quite crucial. It's all irrelevant if the public aren't happy with a tory government at all anymore.

[midnightdawn]

I don't see the infighting stopping anytime soon. Whoever loses is going to going to hang around and want another shot, and Boris supporters will still be fuming and wanting revenge.

[Merlls]

Do we stan Penny Mordaunt or is this still to early to call? 
 

[Kitty Kat]

She ended up saying some pretty transphobic stuff so no, we don't stan.

[CaptainMusic]

 

6 hours ago, Jack! said:

Penny is a wolf in sheep's clothing. She literally went back on her stance about the Gender Recognition Act about two days ago. She herself knows being a conservative with somewhat leftist views isn't going to clamber enough power for her in her party so she's pandering. It could be a clever act into making her party members believe she's more on their side than we are led to think, but in an opposite notion she could then have been playing a clever act with members of the marginalised public, making them believe she was on their side. As with anyone in this party, it goes to show, you really can't trust a tory.

 

I can't believe I think this, but once a new leader is chosen a GE is probably quite crucial. It's all irrelevant if the public aren't happy with a tory government at all anymore.

 

 

1 hour ago, Kitty Kat said:

She ended up saying some pretty transphobic stuff so no, we don't stan.

I believe Penny seems to be the least worst choice, being conservative she didn’t have to say what she originally said about trans women but knows she has to go back on that stance to get elected unfortunately.

 

While it’s not ideal and it doesn’t say much, she’s still better than the other candidates at least who I’m sure will be even more transphobic. 

[Marla Singer]

Suella Braverman OUT! While it's hard to determine the "least bad" Tory running to become PM, I think she was easily the worst.

[Benjamin]

The Conservative PR machine is really coming down on Mordaunt today, some really powerful people clearly don't want her to snatch. Which is weird because she's the only one who has a chance at winning the next General Election.

 

I can't see Truss or Sunak recovering the Tories image considering they've been Boris lapdogs for 3 years, Badenoch is too right wing to catch on as popular leader and Tugendhat is, there, I guess, I dunno he's losing in the next round regardless.

[Brando]

I'm living for their slogans

 

Ready4Rishi

Liz4Leader

PM4PM 

[Benjamin]

"Mordaunt worked in public relations and as a magician's assistant"

 

"Truss was a liberal democrat in university"

 

"Tugendhat's mum was French "

 

This C4 debate already

[Benjamin]

That debate was dreadful.

 

Mordaunt is done, can't imagine her getting into the final 2 now. Tugendhat is the only one of the 5 who came off as a good leader and he's going to lose the next vote anyway so is irrelevant.

[CaptainMusic]

22 hours ago, Benjamin said:

That debate was dreadful.

 

Mordaunt is done, can't imagine her getting into the final 2 now. Tugendhat is the only one of the 5 who came off as a good leader and he's going to lose the next vote anyway so is irrelevant.

I agree from what I saw Tugendhat came off the best but I don’t think Mordaunt is done yet, she might be better in the next debates.

 

Liz Truss was widely considered to be the worst  

 

Imagine if it ends up being Sunak vs Badenoch I-  

[CaptainMusic]

Also it’s not a good look that the Tories have had 2 female prime ministers and now either a 3rd female or the first POC while all of Labour’s leaders have been white men.

[Unoriginal]

22 hours ago, Benjamin said:

That debate was dreadful.

 

Mordaunt is done, can't imagine her getting into the final 2 now. Tugendhat is the only one of the 5 who came off as a good leader and he's going to lose the next vote anyway so is irrelevant.

tom was awful  desperate for soundbites rather than saying anything of substance. kemi and rishi were the runaway winners of the debate

[fountain]

1 hour ago, CaptainMusic said:

Also it’s not a good look that the Tories have had 2 female prime ministers and now either a 3rd female or the first POC while all of Labour’s leaders have been white men.

We are in desperate need of Angela Rayner 

[CaptainMusic]

1 hour ago, Unoriginal said:

tom was awful  desperate for soundbites rather than saying anything of substance. kemi and rishi were the runaway winners of the debate

Interesting opinion, most people disagree 

 

56 minutes ago, fountain said:

We are in desperate need of Angela Rayner 

She’d be a better choice than Keir Starmer for sure  

[Benjamin]

Tugendhat was definitely full of sound bites and that whole bit about being a soldier and thanking the NHS was just pandering, but idk, he just seemed above the other 4, the only one I could take seriously as a leader. He was very smug but kinda deserved to be. 

 

Truss spoke like she was trying to convince a bouncer she was sober outside a nightclub after going to a Halloween party as Thatcher, Mordaunt just waffled on and on without saying anything. Rishi was good at taking down his opponents, but dreadful at defending himself or coming up with solutions to problems himself. Badenoch was, fine, I guess, my opinion is tainted of her because I know how obsessed she is with culture wars and that's all I know about her

 

 

Assuming the Tories lose the next election and the leader then resigns Badenoch is in a great position to snatch the leadership at that point, but now isn't her time I don't think.

 

Edited July 17, 2022 by Benjamin

[Apocalipstick]

21 hours ago, fountain said:

We are in desperate need of Angela Rayner 

Yvette Cooper

[Unoriginal]

tom's question to penny was valid, she can push party unity as much as she wants (which i don't think is necessarily a bad idea for her campaign) but she needs to set out at least some plans to keep her momentum, particularly considering she wants to pivot so much of the focus to the challenges the everyday person faces

liz is dead in the water at this point. she's weak in the debates and even she knows it. i don't think her pointing it out will be the #relatable moment she thought it would be

tom still isn't impressing me but it seemed he was less focussed on soundbites without a live audience

kemi was the standout for me again

rishi was weak

[John Slayne]

Voldemort is doing well, but I think Vecna will win 

[CaptainMusic]

 
It’s not been good for Penny these past few days