discussion UK Politics 🇬🇧🏛️ Election - Greens quadruple their seats!

[Brando]

10 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

That is exactly the wrong way to interpret how Obama pulled a Hillary and only switched on gay rights when it was politically expedient to do so after Joe Biden came out in support of it, which was at the time deemed to be a gaffe to do so, who was brought on as Vice President supposedly because he'd be to the right of Obama on every issue. Yet on social issues in general, Obama tended to be indistinguishable from McCain.

I think Obama was always an ally, but he simply couldn't run on gay marriage support issue in 2008

[Enrique523]

The UK is so f*cked 

 

The 2019 election is genuinely the worst thing that happened to that country, maybe even more than Thatcher's election. It pretty much destroyed any chance for the true left to ever win an election. The consequences of that are gonna be felt for a long time to come.

[Vermillion]

 

[Robert]

Stream I Wrote a Song

[Unoriginal]

Tory MPs are FURIOUS a 25-year-old doesn't share their racist, transphobic, lower income-murdering politics

[fountain]

Wait maybe I should stan Mae after all

[Communion]

On 4/1/2023 at 4:32 PM, Brando said:

Party Membership =/= Electability 

LOL!

[Fevesy]

 

 

[Horizon Flame]

10 hours ago, Fevesy said:

 

 

 

[Horizon Flame]

 

[Diarrhoea]

20 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said:

 

I think the BBC reported she was home when police arrived? And I assume that they're just moving gardening equipment to get into her shed rather than, like, excavating her garden for buried embezzled money. What a mess though

[Robert]

 

UK politics getting one step closer to the US everyday and it’s on all sides

[Horizon Flame]

14 hours ago, Robert said:

 

UK politics getting one step closer to the US everyday and it’s on all sides

And Labour’s leaders are still sharing it. They’ve completely lost the plot. 

[CaptainMusic]

I finally understand those people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hilary and Biden even if Trump is worse.

 

I was sure I was gonna vote for Labour in the next election like I’ve always done but unless they change their stance of supporting transphobia, they won’t be getting my vote. 

[Wonderland]

Why do you have that bland man leading Labour anyway?

 

You're telling me you can't find one woman with charisma?  

[Horizon Flame]

On 4/8/2023 at 4:38 AM, CaptainMusic said:

I finally understand those people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hilary and Biden even if Trump is worse.

 

I was sure I was gonna vote for Labour in the next election like I’ve always done but unless they change their stance of supporting transphobia, they won’t be getting my vote. 

Sure Jan. 

[Diarrhoea]

On 4/8/2023 at 9:38 AM, CaptainMusic said:

I finally understand those people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hilary and Biden even if Trump is worse.

 

I was sure I was gonna vote for Labour in the next election like I’ve always done but unless they change their stance of supporting transphobia, they won’t be getting my vote. 

I would be very done with Labour but my MP is Zarah Sultana so I guess she can stay  my parents' MP is Jamie Wallis (the trans MP) and I don't know what I'd do if I still lived there, the local Labour Party is dreadful and he isn't the absolute worst that the Tories have to offer so I'm unsure. I already voted for the Tory West Midlands mayor in 2021 because he's doing a fine enough job and Liam Byrne was (and is) an absolute ghoul. What a depressing time to be alive!

[CaptainMusic]

43 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said:

Sure Jan. 

Lol @ “Sure Jan” like I have to vote for this terrible party  

 

I won’t be voting for them and that’s that. 

[fountain]

On 4/8/2023 at 2:10 PM, Wonderland said:

Why do you have that bland man leading Labour anyway?

 

You're telling me you can't find one woman with charisma?  

Well, they can, she’s their deputy leader. It’s just they fear her power too much to have her be the actual leader. 

[cockatoo]

 

 

 

[cockatoo]

Wbk Starmer has been wanting rid of all Corbynites for a while now. She's kinda dumb for playing right into his hands and giving him a pretty solid reason to remove her.

 

Normally I've hesitated to criticise her because of the sheer level of racist and sexist abuse she gets but she was wrong here. Playing oppression olympics does nothing but cause further division. Yeah it may be true that some minority groups experience more discrimination than others but what exactly is achieved by one group saying "I'm more oppressed than you". We can campaign for multiple groups at the same time.

[John Slayne]

Yeah Diane Abbott was wrong, but she apologised. It's so hypocritical of the current Labour establishment to allow people like Angela Smith (who famously said 'people with funny tinge' referring to people of colour) back into the party because 'she apologised' but kick Diane out for a similar misstep. 

 

As the first black woman MP in British history, Diane has decades of activism and social justice work under her belt, it seems very short-sighted to suspend her permanently. Clearly Starmer and his minions just have it out for left-wing MPs, and yeah Diane was dumb to play into their hands like this. Why would any former Corbyn supporter willingly enter anti-semitism debate after the last 8 years is beyond me, she must've known people would drag her in bad faith. 

 

Also, as tone deaf as Diane's paragraph was, it's so annoying that this is given so much attention considering she is a back-bencher, meanwhile government officials including prime ministers can say racist sh*t left and right and even propose criminalising Gypsy and Traveller communities and nobody bats an eye. The double standard is so obvious. Diane has no real influence on policy at the moment, go and be mad at the racist Tory party.

[Antonini]

Popping in once again to say Angela Rayner needs to take charge of Labour. I know she wants to and I know she can do the damn thing! 

[CBC]

not terf island 

[fountain]

7 hours ago, Antonini said:

Popping in once again to say Angela Rayner needs to take charge of Labour. I know she wants to and I know she can do the damn thing! 

We need her now more than ever