tbhmatt Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 The Gary Lineker MOTD saga continues. Gary (rightfully) sent a tweet criticising the government’s inhumane immigration policy & the language the government are using to demonise migrants. He was then told to “step down” from his presenting duties on MOTD for openly criticising the government and one-by-one fellow pundits, commentators, players and managers have all come out in solidarity and refused to participate in MOTD or BBC Sport related content this weekend. We are bordering on state controlled propaganda. The BBC is polluted with right wing cronies who actively push the governments agenda and the second someone criticises the Tories they’re “told to step down”. It’s ridiculous.
Tiziano's Boy Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, tbhmatt said: The Gary Lineker MOTD saga continues. Gary (rightfully) sent a tweet criticising the government’s inhumane immigration policy & the language the government are using to demonise migrants. He was then told to “step down” from his presenting duties on MOTD for openly criticising the government and one-by-one fellow pundits, commentators, players and managers have all come out in solidarity and refused to participate in MOTD or BBC Sport related content this weekend. We are bordering on state controlled propaganda. The BBC is polluted with right wing cronies who actively push the governments agenda and the second someone criticises the Tories they’re “told to step down”. It’s ridiculous. I 100% agree with Simply Red, it’s so unfair that Gary can’t criticise the government whenever it’s doing such stupid and inhumane things, and then Gary is the who gets in trouble for doing it, the government are nothing but a bunch of Tory clowns, Rishi and Suella are nothing but bullies and fascists. This Tory government sickens me so much
cockatoo Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Meanwhile Fiona Bruce and Laura Kuenssberg continue to be brazenly pro-tory on actual news segments of the BBC and nothing happens to them
Fevesy Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Gary Lineker tweeted about Brexit and even getting “rid” of Corbyn in the past and that wasn’t a problem for the BBC but criticising the Tories is off limits. Frightening.
Marla Singer Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 Rishi gets his Brexit deal through Parliament with 515 voting for it and only 29 voting against. And the 29 include Lettuce, , only a fraction of the hardline Brexiteers and the DUP. LOSERS
Fevesy Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Congratulations to Humza Yousaf for winning the SNP election. The TERF and homophobe LOST.
visions Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 This country becoming more vocally transphobic every day Using women's rights as a red herring to push their bigoted opinions.. Hell will be hot for them.
Brando Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 Labour needs to win the next election. They can't stand on these socially untested ideas because Tories will destroy them at the polls for that. And it makes sense. Once they are in power they can start adopting more pro-LGBT policies. Basically same thing that Obama did. Initially saying that he believed that a marriage was between a man and a woman and then fully supporting gay marriage from the start of his second term. Calling Keir a transphobe because he doesn't support this or that idea put forward isn't the right solution though. Same way as attacking Obama for being homophobic would have probably only cornered him in the wrong place. Corbyn was unelectable and dragged Labour down, so it's good to see him gone.
Lovett Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 I f*cking hate politicians. They're all scum sucking roaches, whatever side of the political spectrum they sit on. Just awful.
Communion Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Brando said: Corbyn was unelectable and dragged Labour down,
Brando Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Communion said: Party Membership =/= Electability Yes, he increased Labour membership to all time highs because he energised a small but passionate core of progressives (and I liked many of his policies), but he lost badly to Theresa May who wasn't popular at all by the time she called an election, and then two years later Boris Johnson mopped the floor with him despite all the Brexit troubles and got the highest Tory majority in the many decades.
cockatoo Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 Why are people still talking about Jeremy Corbyn in 2023? He's not coming back
cockatoo Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 On the trans thing, I don't agree with him but I absolutely see why he's doing it. The Tories have been using the whole "define a woman" line on labour for a while now and it was going to be a stick they could beat labour with in the next election. This will get more undecided voters/centrists onside. And lbr most progressives are going to vote labour regardless because voting for anyone else is a wasted vote
Fevesy Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 What is this baffoon trying to do? Go even more right to try to get tory voters to switch? I actually hate him more than I hate the tories at this point, idk. I feel for the Labour voters/MPs that are more left leaning. What he should do for a start is at least try to win back the Scottish population who historically voted Labour/Lib Dem by default. Even though I support independence, there is still a large (and potentially, the majority) who do not and would vote for Labour instead of the SNP if they actually had solid ideas and actually tried to have a presence here. Labour got so complacent in Scotland because people would vote for them by default since we hate the tories and the SNP came in and gradually wiped them out. I know we're only ~59 seats, but come on. During election times Labour makes NO effort here. They could literally capitalise on the current uncertainty of the SNP post-Sturgeon but instead focus on trans people for cheap votes.
Brando Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fevesy said: What he should do for a start is at least try to win back the Scottish population who historically voted Labour/Lib Dem by default. Even though I support independence, there is still a large (and potentially, the majority) who do not and would vote for Labour instead of the SNP if they actually had solid ideas and actually tried to have a presence here. Labour got so complacent in Scotland because people would vote for them by default since we hate the tories and the SNP came in and gradually wiped them out. I know we're only ~59 seats, but come on. During election times Labour makes NO effort here. The new SNP leader will be quite unpopular no? A chance for Labour to claw back some seats
Hannah Hunt Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 corbyn is a pathetic loser and the far lefts inability to get over him is part of why no one takes them seriously
ClashAndBurn Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Brando said: Basically same thing that Obama did. That is exactly the wrong way to interpret how Obama pulled a Hillary and only switched on gay rights when it was politically expedient to do so after Joe Biden came out in support of it, which was at the time deemed to be a gaffe to do so, who was brought on as Vice President supposedly because he'd be to the right of Obama on every issue. Yet on social issues in general, Obama tended to be indistinguishable from McCain. On the current topic here, though, it doesn't seem like Keir Starmer is being ambiguous in his disdain for trans people. He's not going to switch if he suddenly gains control. He's just pushing the political environment towards being even more dangerous and life-threatening to the trans community of Britain. How many more Brianna Gheys have to be murdered by terrorists who can easily find an ideological home under Keir Starmer or Rishi Sunak alike?
Pandora Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Brando said: Labour needs to win the next election. They can't stand on these socially untested ideas because Tories will destroy them at the polls for that. And it makes sense. Once they are in power they can start adopting more pro-LGBT policies. Basically same thing that Obama did. Initially saying that he believed that a marriage was between a man and a woman and then fully supporting gay marriage from the start of his second term. Calling Keir a transphobe because he doesn't support this or that idea put forward isn't the right solution though. Same way as attacking Obama for being homophobic would have probably only cornered him in the wrong place. Corbyn was unelectable and dragged Labour down, so it's good to see him gone. You either stand for something or you don't. Elected leaders and politicians have influence. This does NOT help the situation, especially in the UK. Go **** yourself you corrupted bastard. Not to mention this goes against every bit of his 'human rights barrister' record - the ONLY thread of decency/likability he had going for him. A liar, a cheat, and a downright opportunist. He might as well join the Tories. Edited April 2, 2023 by Pandora
Pandora Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 7 hours ago, cockatoo said: Why are people still talking about Jeremy Corbyn in 2023? He's not coming back Why are people still using trans people as a political football in 2023? Trans people are not going away. Check yourself if this is all you're getting from the conversation.
The7thStranger Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 The man behind Yewtree being unscrupulous? Shocker!
Harrier Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 I respect and admire Jeremy Corbyn. I wish he could be PM. But the points about his electability are irrefutable. The 2019 election was a disaster, plain and simple. The moderate Labour message isn't as electorally inadequate as the corporate democrats. Nor is it entirely equivalent, as it doesn't come with the same level of outright corruption. But UK Labour are not finding the right balance between electorally sound policies and keeping some kind of integrity. They are running as tories-lite. This represents Keir Starmer throwing trans people under the bus as a political calculation. They do not need to go that far - in Australia, our Labor politicians are moderates mostly too, but they wouldn't be seen dead saying this ****. The UK electorate is captured by conservative media and is hostile to leftist politics. I get it. But there is a better way than this
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