BeachRat Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 okay so i said to myself i wouldn't write an essay about it but here i go: FIRST OF ALL, why the HELL would they keep teasing that there would be "a body count" and that "main characters will die" if the case is just Eddie (the newly introduced character once again) and BUTCHERING Max? like wtfff??? why? i was screaming! can they already LET GO of a few of the 20+ ensemble cast already? it's ridiculous. i was expecting MAJOR deaths. i swore to sue if they touch Max BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER to let her die opposed to..this? just why? it gave me multiple anxiety attacks, it was sad, did not pay her justice after her journey this season and overall was badly executed. i thought the ending was epic, of course, how could it not be but they need to adjust a few things if they want the 10/10 marking girlies. Last but not least, i have to say seeing the upside down taking over hawkins was cute and can't wait for the final showdown next season (in 3 years at least?) it would probably be even more epic but people need to GO from ep.1 if they want to wrap this up smoothly. i believe Vecna will be back (in a new form?) and there will be multiple villains + Probably Will being taken. let's see, for now it did not tick all the boxes still SAD and ANGRY for Max (she deserved WAY better) but in general go off i guess.
Marla Singer Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 I'm completely blown away. The finale raises the bar even higher for television than Game of Thrones already did. Hell, it even raises the bar for movies - I couldn't watch most big-budget Marvel/Hollywood superhero movies without getting bored and not feeling invested in what's happening. El is such a legend. Incredible performance by Millie this season and especially the last 2 episodes. She gave us everything. And HEW was calling Nancy a "damsel in distress"? I know people are dragging Mike and Finn but I'll defend him a little bit here. I think it's obvious the writers don't really know what to do with the character besides the whole El/Will triangle - he's basically just become a plot device for both El's and Will's individual storylines. As for the actor, I think Finn does comedy well but he just wasn't given much of that because this season is much darker. And Mike is supposedly the leader or the heart of the group, yet he was separated from most of the group and away from Hawkins while Nancy and Dustin really took the lead there. I think the problem is more to do with how the character is being written than with the actor. Max noooooooooooooo I am devastated, she has been through so much.
TaggedGalaxy Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) Will remains the best boy, let’s not. Max is indeed the best girl, I wish she was Will’s hag instead of El Edited July 3, 2022 by TaggedGalaxy
Lachlan Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 The sequence of events from Hopper fighting the Demo > Steve, Nancy and Robin flaming Vecna > Eddie's death > Max's 'death' > The gates intersecting is literally INCREDIBLE. Marvel could literally never.
Aiya Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Marla Singer said: I'm completely blown away. The finale raises the bar even higher for television than Game of Thrones already did. Hell, it even raises the bar for movies - I couldn't watch most big-budget Marvel/Hollywood superhero movies without getting bored and not feeling invested in what's happening. El is such a legend. Incredible performance by Millie this season and especially the last 2 episodes. She gave us everything. And HEW was calling Nancy a "damsel in distress"? I know people are dragging Mike and Finn but I'll defend him a little bit here. I think it's obvious the writers don't really know what to do with the character besides the whole El/Will triangle - he's basically just become a plot device for both El's and Will's individual storylines. As for the actor, I think Finn does comedy well but he just wasn't given much of that because this season is much darker. And Mike is supposedly the leader or the heart of the group, yet he was separated from most of the group and away from Hawkins while Nancy and Dustin really took the lead there. I think the problem is more to do with how the character is being written than with the actor. Reveal hidden contents Max noooooooooooooo I am devastated, she has been through so much. I have a major feeling him and Lucas are going to get their individual stories in the final. They’re the only ones who weren’t in danger so far…
Aiya Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Spoiler 2 days later gap pissed me off. They needed to show more.
Aiya Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Cryptique said: The last episodes also proved what made us love Jonathan.. it aint Nancy+Jonathan as a couple, it's him being the big brother to Will It will only make sense if they go their separate ways.. i'm also not into Steve+Nancy, Steve is much suited as the babysitter and Nancy is much suited as strong independent woman Spoiler Yeah she definitely doesn’t want to be a housewife and give birth to 6 children
DreamGlow Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Rence said: The teenagers were serving Emmy worthy performances this season and then there’s Finn Mike needs to die next season fr... his acting is horrendous
sweetsexysavage Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 So finally watched Season 4 Vol 1 & 2 and this whole season had me in my feelings. I was about to cry so many times lmao. Millie’s, Caleb’s, Sadie’s and Gatin’s performances were amazing. They’re so talented and I can’t wait for their future projects. I have always been a huge ST fan, but this season really made me into a STAN-STAN. I didn’t expect my love for ST to flourish like that again. Spoiler 1) It’s crazy how different/grown up the kids look compared to season 1! (especially Will and his bowl cut lmao) 2) I love hearing El talk more during the school scenes! The moment where her project gets destroyed got me sad. Also, we hate Angela 3) I NEED a friendship between Robin and Nancy lmao they’re hilarious. The scenes in the Asylum really showed their chemistry. 4) When Erica showed up in Episode 1 I screamed. She really elevates a lot of scenes with her presence. 5) They did Chrissy so dirty omg. What a way to end Episode 1. I was shook seeing Vecna for the first time. 6) Loved the little Hopper flashback in Episode 2 7) Max really slayed Episode 4. 8) Steve and Nancy are so cute. There were so many moments which got me emotional, especially their conversation in the upside down. They’re such a good team. 9) Jonathan’s character seemed so… idk. Like a lot of you have already said, I also don’t know how to feel because Mike & Will are kinda background characters, which was disappointing, since they ‘belong’ to the core group of Hawkins. The whole California storyline wasn’t grabbing me tbh. 10) Overall it’s kinda insane how many characters they introduced (so many new characters like basketball blondie, Eddie, Chrissy, Angela, One, plus the older characters). I guess that’s the reason why the episodes are so long? You can tell they were really dedicated to each and single person (the parents, Joyce/Murray/Hopper, Dr. Brenner, One etc.) 11) At the end of the season I realized how annoyed I was by the whole Hopper/Russia/prison plot. Everytime they switched to the Russia plot in Episode 9 I wanted to skip it. It was so time consuming and by the end of season 4 I completely forgot about the Demogorgon in the pit which was a reference to S3. The fact the whole storyline goes till Episode 9 was just way too much imo. 12) The way Max erased the whole Ms. Kelly theory from Lucas lmao, glad it happened, a lot of people were thinking Ms. Kelly was involved somehow though 13) The conversation between Will and Jonathan at the pizza place made me teary eyed. So did Will’s scene in the van explaining his painting. Noah’s acting was really amazing in some scenes. I just wish he was more present during other episodes. 14) The whole last episode had me all in my feelings. Lucas and Dustin really did that.
Augmented Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 I’m starting to get the feeling that Nancy is going to get the Heroic Sacrifice/Death slot next season The fact that they’ve been building her character over the past 3 seasons into the “leader” of the misfit group and she constantly puts herself at the forefront of major confrontations/fights…They could definitely play safe and do a final girl ending with her but I get the feeling they are going to try and subvert expectations.
cruelhprince Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Spoiler I wonder if they’ll read Max letters on S5
Venice B Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Augmented said: I’m starting to get the feeling that Hide contents Nancy is going to get the Heroic Sacrifice/Death slot next season The fact that they’ve been building her character over the past 3 seasons into the “leader” of the misfit group and she constantly puts herself at the forefront of major confrontations/fights…They could definitely play safe and do a final girl ending with her but I get the feeling they are going to try and subvert expectations. I don't think so Nancy has one of the best character developments ever, and she's been growing into this "independent woman" for quite some time now. By the end of the series I think she will end up single and going after her career, that's her biggest goal. I could even see a spin off with Nancy investigating supernatural stuff down the line since she's into that investigative journalism stuff.
Dylangaga Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 S4 was LEGENDARY! But yeah Mike and Jonathan should get killed off next season!!
Gorgeous Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 I don't know how they are going to achieve the promised time jump in season 5. The clock is already ticking with Hawkins dead zone expanding as time goes by, my guess is that in the meantime the army will set it back by using flame throwers, but I can't see them doing so for longer than a year.
Venice B Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gorgeous said: I don't know how they are going to achieve the promised time jump in season 5. The clock is already ticking with Hawkins dead zone expanding as time goes by, my guess is that in the meantime the army will set it back by using flame throwers, but I can't see them doing so for longer than a year. Same, that ending gave me the impression that season 5 would start right where season 4 ended but then I remembered they're doing a time jump
Europe Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Gorgeous said: I don't know how they are going to achieve the promised time jump in season 5. The clock is already ticking with Hawkins dead zone expanding as time goes by, my guess is that in the meantime the army will set it back by using flame throwers, but I can't see them doing so for longer than a year. 1 hour ago, Venice B said: Same, that ending gave me the impression that season 5 would start right where season 4 ended but then I remembered they're doing a time jump Right now Vecna is weak AF and since he was behind everything, maybe he can't send an army of demodogs/demogorgons through the gate to attack because everything is connected through a hive mind and he needs to recharge.
Aiya Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Dylangaga said: S4 was LEGENDARY! But yeah Mike and Jonathan should get killed off next season!! Mike 99% is going to be tortured to get El mad, Jonathan could be a trigger for Will too.
BeachRat Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 my guess for a time jump would be right on 1989 right before the 80s end (that's why and i also believe the next season would be a christmas 2023/24 release) and a completely dystopian place
WERKER Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Just finished S4 and WHEW Nancy is that girl! She is the leader of the misfits, the group would not function without her, her plan is a huge reason to why Vecna was defeated, yes Max got hurt in the aftermath but OUR GIRL did that! Eleven helped too but is she the brains? No our girl NANCY is the brains of Hawkins. I just want that user to come at me again or any user to come at me with facts to prove Nancy is a damsel in distress because she has proven season after season that she is THE FINAL GIRL.
Hurem Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Gorgeous said: I don't know how they are going to achieve the promised time jump in season 5. The clock is already ticking with Hawkins dead zone expanding as time goes by, my guess is that in the meantime the army will set it back by using flame throwers, but I can't see them doing so for longer than a year. 5 hours ago, Venice B said: Same, that ending gave me the impression that season 5 would start right where season 4 ended but then I remembered they're doing a time jump It makes sense considering Vecna went into hiding. I'd love for them to put Hawkins back on its legs and basically forget about the "earthquake" only for Vecna to pull off Madison Montogomery.
shark_heather Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Nancy is hands down the best character of the show . And its not even a close one I really hope we get a Nancy spin off That being said my fav characters are Lucas and Max
fridayteenage Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 3 hours ago, WERKER said: Just finished S4 and WHEW Nancy is that girl! She is the leader of the misfits, the group would not function without her, her plan is a huge reason to why Vecna was defeated, yes Max got hurt in the aftermath but OUR GIRL did that! Eleven helped too but is she the brains? No our girl NANCY is the brains of Hawkins. I just want that user to come at me again or any user to come at me with facts to prove Nancy is a damsel in distress because she has proven season after season that she is THE FINAL GIRL. the final girl would require main characters to die left and right, not nowhere.
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