tv show The White Lotus | HBO | Season 3: Thailand

[PoisonPill]

On 12/16/2022 at 6:30 PM, RunBoyRun said:

@PoisonPill Harper was right about everything though. All her predictions became true. Mike White also confirmed all she did was kiss. He didn't say anything regarding her husband except that it made him get over his insane jealousy. Daphne is great but honestly, that is a sad life. Never actually having love or true friends. Just money. Sure, she has her kids. But that's it. That's not good.

I think that's an important point the show made. Harper is so focused on being "right" and constantly vocalizing every single negative thought she has. While Daphne accepts that life and people aren't perfect and can be disappointing, so she focuses on all the good. Happiness is a choice, as is misery.

[Bindi]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmCqLF9STmM/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

oh wow, Este

[Sharapov]

2 hours ago, Universo said:

Shawn would never (unfortunately)

is adam a hunty? 

[Universo]

4 hours ago, Sharapov said:

is adam a hunty? 

maybe idk

[RunBoyRun]

7 hours ago, PoisonPill said:

I think that's an important point the show made. Harper is so focused on being "right" and constantly vocalizing every single negative thought she has. While Daphne accepts that life and people aren't perfect and can be disappointing, so she focuses on all the good. Happiness is a choice, as is misery.

It's fake happiness though. She is tricking herself and any professional would say the same. At least Harper has great intuition and doesn't want to be fake....

[Jay07]

I don't think the Daphne Cameron marriage is anything to aspire to. All the cheating and mind games, her having to **** the trainer and her "friend's" husband because her own husband is a lying, cheating, neglectful sack of ****. Harper and Ethan seemed cold and distant but at least they were honest.

[FameFatale]

I binged watched both seasons this past week and I loved it 

[RunBoyRun]

13 hours ago, Jay07 said:

I don't think the Daphne Cameron marriage is anything to aspire to. All the cheating and mind games, her having to **** the trainer and her "friend's" husband because her own husband is a lying, cheating, neglectful sack of ****. Harper and Ethan seemed cold and distant but at least they were honest.

Exactly. It must be EXHAUSTING. She's fooled herself into thinking she's happy and she's fooled a good amount of the audience as well. The ONLY way she could be truly happy was if she enjoyed playing mind games, lying, cheating, etc.... which would make her a really, really awful person. 

[Almodusa]

Yeah I’ve felt the same way about Daphne. Yeah you get a lot luxury goods and experiences but overall a sad situation 

[midnightdawn]

Fun show. Maybe not as good as the first season because I got a bit tired of the cheating storyline and Harper being hard to care for. I feel like Ethan and Daphne ending up together would have been an interesting twist.

[Sky Engineer]

Both couples are awful, that was the point

[rN820]

I miss this already 

[Littlejfrey]

 

 

Daphne did that  people might say she's an awful person, but it was refreshing to see a vengeful and empowered female character instead of the usual victim. 

 

Overrall, the female cast slayed this season  oh and Dominic was so hot 

[Littlejfrey]

Also, it was very interesting how at the beginning Harper was introduced as an independent “cold” woman while Daphne was this bimbo trophy wife and in the end it’s like they switched roles with Harper suffering because of Ethan and Daphne playing Cameron over and over again 

[PoisonPill]

3 hours ago, Littlejfrey said:

Also, it was very interesting how at the beginning Harper was introduced as an independent “cold” woman while Daphne was this bimbo trophy wife and in the end it’s like they switched roles with Harper suffering because of Ethan and Daphne playing Cameron over and over again 

Exactly. This character arc was apparently missed by many people here. Harper represents the trope of the faux feminist who judges other women for not fitting into her imagined standards. Daphne represents the modern feminist who is not a victim of the patriarchy and beats the boys at their own game.

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by PoisonPill

[Yawn]

girl, those last 2 eps were a rollercoaster. i would have been even more shook had i not seen the memes of jennifer beforehand 

[Littlejfrey]

5 hours ago, PoisonPill said:

Exactly. This character arc was apparently missed by many people here. Harper represents the trope of the faux feminist who judges other women for not fitting into her imagined standards. Daphne represents the modern feminist who is not a victim of the patriarchy and beats the boys at their own game.

 

 

Edited December 21, 2022 by Littlejfrey

[fridayteenage]

https://twitter.com/MatthewAStewart/

looked at screentime for every actor for fun.

 

S2 topped by:

4. Haley Lu Richardson/Portia avg 10:03 per episode (16%)

3. Will Sharpe/Ethan avg 10:36 per episode (17%)

2. Aubrey Plaza/Harper 11:04 per episode (18%)

1. Jennifer Coolidge/Tanya 11:27 per episode (18%)

[feelslikeadream]

On 12/12/2022 at 1:50 AM, Kylizzle said:

I've never been more relieved to see a sex scene but WOW the broken statue metaphor was the most heavy handed thing I've seen in awhile. 

 

On 12/12/2022 at 3:36 AM, ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ said:

what did it symbolise

 

On 12/12/2022 at 2:28 PM, Kylizzle said:

The story of the statue that broke tells about a cheating husband and a wife who kills him 

The statue breaks and basically shows she forgives him cheating bc she may have done it too 

Not only this, but it works metaphorically for pretty much all the toxic masculinity and/or gross patriarchal behavior we see on the show, which is rewarded in just about every single case:

 

- Ethan (probably) cheats and is rewarded.

- Cam cheats and faces no real repercussions.

- Greg cheats and hires the mafia to kill his wife and WINS.

- Albie, the so-called feminist, sells out his mom in exchange for the woman he lusts after, knowing good and well his father has not changed (he literally tells him he will never change in an earlier episode)...

- ...Meaning Albie's dad will likely get his wife back despite being a serial cheater.

- The three generations of men gawk at the woman in the final scene, speaking to the stability of patriarchal norms.

 

The only men who lose are the gays  So I guess more specifically, you could say the show ultimately reaffirms the power of straight men. That porcelain head is supposed to represent men being punished for infidelity, but its shattering reveals that the story is, after all, just a myth.

 

That said, I feel like the show might need to shake things up a bit in S3 if now we can expect every season to have the same cynical conclusion. S1's focus was on class: in the end, that rich dude literally got away with murder—and kept his wife—because he had the money to do it. (And Tanya screwed over the spa lady, the poor local guy went to jail, the working class protagonist who was irked by entitled rich people was the show's victim, etc. etc.).

 

So now we have two seasons with the same kind of cynical conclusions about wealth, gender, and power. I loved both seasons, but I hope I can't predict the ending of S3 based on this trend.

[SchmoodRing]

On 12/15/2022 at 12:25 AM, PoisonPill said:

@SchmoodRingYou sound just as judgmental and negative as your fave Harper  

stfu they literally ended up reaffirming her suspicions and judgments as correct as the show went on. ya wanna brag and be like daphne isn't the "victim" because cameron is still with her and pays for everything yet that look of betrayal and devastation when ethan told her about cam cheating on her with harper said otherwise and then some

[midnightdawn]

2 hours ago, feelslikeadream said:

 

 

Not only this, but it works metaphorically for pretty much all the toxic masculinity and/or gross patriarchal behavior we see on the show, which is rewarded in just about every single case:

 

- Ethan (probably) cheats and is rewarded.

- Cam cheats and faces no real repercussions.

- Greg cheats and hires the mafia to kill his wife and WINS.

- Albie, the so-called feminist, sells out his mom in exchange for the woman he lusts after, knowing good and well his father has not changed (he literally tells him he will never change in an earlier episode)...

- ...Meaning Albie's dad will likely get his wife back despite being a serial cheater.

- The three generations of men gawk at the woman in the final scene, speaking to the stability of patriarchal norms.

 

The only men who lose are the gays  So I guess more specifically, you could say the show ultimately reaffirms the power of straight men. That porcelain head is supposed to represent men being punished for infidelity, but its shattering reveals that the story is, after all, just a myth.

 

That said, I feel like the show might need to shake things up a bit in S3 if now we can expect every season to have the same cynical conclusion. S1's focus was on class: in the end, that rich dude literally got away with murder—and kept his wife—because he had the money to do it. (And Tanya screwed over the spa lady, the poor local guy went to jail, the working class protagonist who was irked by entitled rich people was the show's victim, etc. etc.).

 

So now we have two seasons with the same kind of cynical conclusions about wealth, gender, and power. I loved both seasons, but I hope I can't predict the ending of S3 based on this trend.

I feel like that is the purpose of the show, to display how those things are operate in society. A happy ending would defeat all that. I think Mike White wants people to go away reflecting on that, that the rich get away with things, the patriarchy lives on etc. The younger generations think they are breaking the cycle and better than older generations, or women believe they are now empowered, but inevitably end up falling back into those patterns.

[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

3 hours ago, feelslikeadream said:

 

 

Not only this, but it works metaphorically for pretty much all the toxic masculinity and/or gross patriarchal behavior we see on the show, which is rewarded in just about every single case:

 

- Ethan (probably) cheats and is rewarded.

- Cam cheats and faces no real repercussions.

- Greg cheats and hires the mafia to kill his wife and WINS.

- Albie, the so-called feminist, sells out his mom in exchange for the woman he lusts after, knowing good and well his father has not changed (he literally tells him he will never change in an earlier episode)...

- ...Meaning Albie's dad will likely get his wife back despite being a serial cheater.

- The three generations of men gawk at the woman in the final scene, speaking to the stability of patriarchal norms.

 

The only men who lose are the gays  So I guess more specifically, you could say the show ultimately reaffirms the power of straight men. That porcelain head is supposed to represent men being punished for infidelity, but its shattering reveals that the story is, after all, just a myth.

 

That said, I feel like the show might need to shake things up a bit in S3 if now we can expect every season to have the same cynical conclusion. S1's focus was on class: in the end, that rich dude literally got away with murder—and kept his wife—because he had the money to do it. (And Tanya screwed over the spa lady, the poor local guy went to jail, the working class protagonist who was irked by entitled rich people was the show's victim, etc. etc.).

 

So now we have two seasons with the same kind of cynical conclusions about wealth, gender, and power. I loved both seasons, but I hope I can't predict the ending of S3 based on this trend.

thanks for this

[Hay Amores]

Actually like the series although I truly despise some of the characters: 

 

Ethan went from my most fave character to be the least, wtf? He kept nagging on Harper for his suspicion, but angry with Harper for asking about the condom. Dang son, that's effed up. 

 

Portia is still being useless from all her whining on previous episodes to not caught any hints about the fraud that Jack is. 

 

Finding Albie being a truly spoiled brat after him being woke.

 

And the one character that I still like till the end getting killed. And Greg is winning in the end. Lmao. 

 

 

[TOKYO.]

literal spoilers again I can't- y'all are a mess

[FunCoric]

53 minutes ago, TOKYO. said:

literal spoilers again I can't- y'all are a mess

this show ended weeks ago lmao. not our problem