Cloudy Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) I still don't know how to feel about Baizhu, I believe he will still be valuable because he is dendro and his role consolidating potential. I think he will be good in aggravate/spread team comps like Cyno's, Keqing's, Tighnari's and Alhaitham's (even on-field Yae), specially in single target scenarios, but that doesn't mean you cannot pair him with a second dendro. Maybe he is also nice for quickbloom although I'm not sure. He will still be usable in Nilou's bloom if you don't have Kaveh or Yaoyao to tank/heal the rupture damage, tho you will need DMC or Nahida (which you usually run two dendro's so it's not a big deal). He can also allow Nahida to run Gilded Dreams for max EM buff and damage when pair with her so that's a plus too. Edited March 8, 2023 by Cloudy
awong918 Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 After rereading his kit, I think he's not as good as I initially thought. He can only generate a shield every 2.5 seconds, so if you're relying on him to give you reliable interruption resistance it's not happening. His Ascension 4 passive actually seems kind of difficult to utilize except for on-field quicken DPSes. It only buffs characters that received healing from his burst, which happens every 2.5s or when the shield breaks. And the buff only lasts 6 seconds. So unless you can switch to the character every 6 seconds and make sure they get the healing or get hit, there's no buff He's still a decent unit, but the value just isn't there when Yao Yao exists.
£than Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Sesame said: Don’t you have C2 zhongli C3 and he's chained to Hu Tao as a burst support since all the HP scaling in that team just works...unlike a certain someone's entire kit.
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Why am I reading that Yao Yao is overall more useful than baizhu What is happening Edited March 8, 2023 by G.U.Y. Gaga
Cloudy Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said: Why am I reading that Yao Yao is overall more useful than baizhu What is happening I think they are saying she heals a ton too and applies more and better dendro with just her E and even more when she's onfield. I'm confused as to why people are saying she gives a bigger buff. I don't think anything in her kit buffs reactions or teammates.
Sesame Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, £than said: C3 and he's chained to Hu Tao as a burst support since all the HP scaling in that team just works...unlike a certain someone's entire kit. Please not too much on Cyno
Cloudy Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 Well Yaoyao gives a 15% Dendro DMG bonus when you are in the aoe area of her raddishes. It's pretty small I don't even know if you even get that bonus except for Nilou's bloom teams so I don't understand why people are doomposting.
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cloudy said: I think they are saying she heals a ton too and applies more and better dendro with just her E and even more when she's onfield. I'm confused as to why people are saying she gives a bigger buff. I don't think anything in her kit buffs reactions or teammates. Oh I’m sure he will be fine. dendro is op anyway. My collei with sacrificial does more damage than some units and collei is pretty much panned lol
CBC Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Chiidish said: We are still pulling just pointing out that shield is a myth Here's the tea Baizhu is a dendro reaction buffer and healer. The shield is only there cuz well... the kit design team is the pits... might as well replace him with alpedo for the crystalize shields and em boost. With that said, I wish they would increase the shields to 2k and lower the heals a bit or increase the refresh rate. I just want to make sure the shield is indeed enough to protect certain chars from being rag dolls at the end of the day any catalyst can be made to be a totm/ttds bot so they never really lose
Cloudy Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said: Oh I’m sure he will be fine. dendro is op anyway. My collei with sacrificial does more damage than some units and collei is pretty much panned lol She's panned but she makes, along with Dori, the perfect instructor's user. That's what I have her on, since her dmg is so **** may as well use her to buff the team's EM in Nilou bloom or Alhaitham
Chiidish Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, CBC said: Here's the tea Baizhu is a dendro reaction buffer and healer. The shield is only there cuz well... the kit design team is the pits... might as well replace him with alpedo for the crystalize shields and em boost. With that said, I wish they would increase the shields to 2k and lower the heals a bit or increase the refresh rate. I just want to make sure the shield is indeed enough to protect certain chars from being rag dolls at the end of the day any catalyst can be made to be a totm/ttds bot so they never really lose Spill also last I heard the interruption resist he provides is good regardless of when the shield breaks. Similar to how Thoma’s burst provides interruption resist even tho the shield is paper and needs to be refreshed.
awong918 Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chiidish said: Spill also last I heard the interruption resist he provides is good regardless of when the shield breaks. Similar to how Thoma’s burst provides interruption resist even tho the shield is paper and needs to be refreshed. The difference is Thoma's shield triggers every second. Baizhu's triggers every 2.5 seconds. This means that Baizhu's stagger immunity uptime is 50% of Thoma's.
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Verdict is out on male Yao Yao though cause burst animation are kind of important to me hihi i can tolerate the other things Edited March 8, 2023 by G.U.Y. Gaga
Chiidish Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 50 minutes ago, awong918 said: The difference is Thoma's shield triggers every second. Baizhu's triggers every 2.5 seconds. This means that Baizhu's stagger immunity uptime is 50% of Thoma's. 1 hour ago, Chiidish said: Similar
mael Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I remember the sussy leaks made it seem like Baizhu was the Dendro Yelan that heals instead of boosting dmg during burst and I was so excited.
Venice B Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, mael said: I remember the sussy leaks made it seem like Baizhu was the Dendro Yelan that heals instead of boosting dmg during burst and I was so excited. Some leakers did say he was like dendro Yelan but apparently the beta version traded his damage for more heals, which sucks. I still think Baizhu will be perfectly fine once he's released, they might even buff him right before launch like they did to Kokomi so I'll try and hold my opinions until then. But the lashings are funny Edited March 9, 2023 by Venice B
Sesame Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 10 hours ago, mael said: I remember the sussy leaks made it seem like Baizhu was the Dendro Yelan that heals instead of boosting dmg during burst and I was so excited. In a way he kind of is the dendro Yelan. Spoiler In another universe where Yelan was absolutely garbage
Fevesy Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 The UGLY catgirl is actually 4* and Dendro, not Geo.
Venice B Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fevesy said: The UGLY catgirl is actually 4* and Dendro, not Geo. Watch her shield be better than Baizhu's even though she's a 4*
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Fevesy said: The UGLY catgirl is actually 4* and Dendro, not Geo. the geo Stan’s were ready for a standard
Cloudy Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 The leaked upcoming banners I might be tempted to pull Ganyu, god I hate charged shots but I just love her design, she's one of my faves 3 hours ago, Fevesy said: The UGLY catgirl is actually 4* and Dendro, not Geo. Horrible design and probably redundant kit
Venice B Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Knowing my luck mihoyo will put Kaveh with Baizhu and Ganyu, two characters I really don't give a **** about
Cloudy Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Venice B said: Knowing my luck mihoyo will put Kaveh with Baizhu and Ganyu, two characters I really don't give a **** about I'm positive he will be paired with Nahida and Nilou. It would be pointless to put him with those two but who knows they've done weirder things. I already have Nahida and Nilou so I would be more than glad lol Honestly all those videos of melt ganyu with Bennett, Nahida and Dehya are cool, at least Dehya is decently useful in that comp Edited March 9, 2023 by Cloudy
Fevesy Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, CBC said: and as we been knew his shields are crap Talented gorgeous meta king, the buffs are coming on monday just in time.
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