aayAlex Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 2 hours ago, publikcitizen said: Well AS6 was still an improvement over AS5. But I get your point. I guess it depends on how production proceeds with future AS seasons. S14 definitely has a good amount of heavy hitters along with some from S12 and 13. There aren't really any queens left from the earlier seasons that can go on future AS seasons now after AS8. So I wouldn't be surprised if they bring back queens that already competed on AS like Adore, Coco, Tatianna, Thorgy, Valentina, etc. So I am curious to see where they go after AS8. I do think there is a good chance AS9 will be US vs the World. I think after Canada, the logical choice is either the US or Espana. Gurl the visa issues would limit the cast by a lot
That Bad Eartha Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Let's at least wait to see if we can actually get a good Vs the World season on the books before committing to a USvsTheWorld iteration. I feel like Espana should be next as that could pull from a lot of different franchises, and then probably one of France/Holland/Belgium could host one now that we have so many French speaking franchises. I think Down Under is probably going to be the least likely to have a Vs The World because I think getting a work visa in Australia is notoriously hard and because the travel fees would be so expensive.
FAN Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 10 hours ago, That Bad Eartha said: I don't think it will even be possible to replicate an AS2 level cast at this point. They just aren't turning out superstars like they used to. Bimini/Awhora/Tayce are basically the Rolaskatox of the UK. Those 3 cast together on an AS season would be TV gold. This cast could easily be AS2 level: Bimini Awhora Tayce Priyanka Divina De Campo Asia O’Hara Symone Gigi Goode GotMik Envy Peru make it happen for the next UK vs The World!
FAN Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 6 hours ago, That Bad Eartha said: Let's at least wait to see if we can actually get a good Vs the World season on the books before committing to a USvsTheWorld iteration. I feel like Espana should be next as that could pull from a lot of different franchises, and then probably one of France/Holland/Belgium could host one now that we have so many French speaking franchises. I think Down Under is probably going to be the least likely to have a Vs The World because I think getting a work visa in Australia is notoriously hard and because the travel fees would be so expensive. Isn’t the Canada vs The World cast awful
Vigoorian King Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Darienne confirmed to NOT be the first out, what a way to start the day
aayAlex Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Vigoorian King said: Darienne confirmed to NOT be the first out, what a way to start the day it has to be Monica
dabunique Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 18 hours ago, justlore said: Alaska - Gigi Detox - Crystal Roxxxy - Peppermint Tatianna - Dida Ritz Katya - Nina West Phi Phi - Utica Ginger - Alexis Mateo Adore - Valentina Coco - Widow Von'Du Alyssa - The Vixen ugh not my two faves together Roxxxy & Peppermint
Witchpop Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 17 hours ago, That Bad Eartha said: I don't think it will even be possible to replicate an AS2 level cast at this point. They just aren't turning out superstars like they used to. Because they're doing All Star seasons every year. All Stars should be special seasons every few years (2-3) to allow a more "star-esque" cast to go through the ringer. When you need 10 queens every year from the existing queen pool, the quality is not there
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Witchpop said: Because they're doing All Star seasons every year. All Stars should be special seasons every few years (2-3) to allow a more "star-esque" cast to go through the ringer. When you need 10 queens every year from the existing queen pool, the quality is not there It could be but a lot of the “good” queens don’t end up doing it. It’s not really even worth it if you have a decent following and don’t need a redemption lol
ATRL Moderator Unoriginal Posted July 19, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted July 19, 2022 saturday: as8 is non-elimination sunday: as8 has eliminations, darienne is third out sunday: darienne is first out monday: darienne is still in at the halfway point will she be the frontrunner tomorrow? hosting the show on wednesday?
Shinning Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 There was so much controversy when the Drag Race contract was revealed and how restrictive it was and apparently it forces Queens to go back on All Stars but then you have so many high placing Queens who we know have been asked multiple times who repeatedly turn it down. Asia, Kameron, Kim Chi, Laganja have been asked SO many times and have never been on so I really question how restrictive that contract is.
Afferty Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/tv/CgKbcNkJIt9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Do you still believe that Jinkxx is winning this?
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, Shinning said: There was so much controversy when the Drag Race contract was revealed and how restrictive it was and apparently it forces Queens to go back on All Stars but then you have so many high placing Queens who we know have been asked multiple times who repeatedly turn it down. Asia, Kameron, Kim Chi, Laganja have been asked SO many times and have never been on so I really question how restrictive that contract is. Yea I think they really don’t enforce that part but it’s standard for a reality tv contract to have it in. 7 minutes ago, Afferty said: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CgKbcNkJIt9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Do you still believe that Jinkxx is winning this? Lol I want monet to win but the other two people are runner ups
publikcitizen Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 9 hours ago, FAN said: Isn’t the Canada vs The World cast awful I actually like the cast. I do wish a Holland or Thailand queen was on, preferably in Stephanie' spot. But I get that the visa process for Canada was probably difficult.
Afferty Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said: Lol I want monet to win but the other two people are runner ups Runner ups of way too previous seasons. There is a reason they choose Monet for every opportunity this year...
Edge Of Glory Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 ngl monet being on SCDR + her being in LA on the day of the finale while jinkx will be in australia is starting to make me lose faith for a jinkx win i hope im wrong tho
TheOnlyOne Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Shinning said: There was so much controversy when the Drag Race contract was revealed and how restrictive it was and apparently it forces Queens to go back on All Stars but then you have so many high placing Queens who we know have been asked multiple times who repeatedly turn it down. Asia, Kameron, Kim Chi, Laganja have been asked SO many times and have never been on so I really question how restrictive that contract is. They can not force you back on any show. Ya'll really let Ginger Minj gaslight the entire fandom when she said she was "forced back" to justify her flopping AS2 They can be persuasive and insinuate its "now or never" or something of the sort, but there's no way in hell they can require you to be on the show and there's 0.00% anything like that would ever hold up in court. People get confused or misled cause the contract says producers have the right to require the queen to participate in 1 cycle (that means the season they are signing for and the promo/press week/finale/reunion for that season). The second clause is the option to appear in 5 additional cycles. They have that in place so they can keep a queen on retainer and reserve the right to deny them appearing on OTHER shows will still under contact. It's not required and there's absolutely nothing legally binding to make anyone forced to appear. The only thing they are forced to do is everything within their cycle, meaning a queen can't skip out on the promo shoot, press week, the reunion, etc. without prior approval. Phi Phi likely got fined for skipping the AS2 reunion, for instance. No one has ever signed up for AS against their will, Ginger the pathological liar included.
publikcitizen Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Edge Of Glory said: ngl monet being on SCDR + her being in LA on the day of the finale while jinkx will be in australia is starting to make me lose faith for a jinkx win i hope im wrong tho Hmm interesting... why is Jinkx going to Australia? I would imagine WOW will want the top 4 to do a viewing party together like they did last year for AS6. So I imagine Jinkx may have to fly to LA for this.
TheOnlyOne Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Edge Of Glory said: ngl monet being on SCDR + her being in LA on the day of the finale while jinkx will be in australia is starting to make me lose faith for a jinkx win i hope im wrong tho Reminder that the C in Unty is actually brandable and hirable to other companies + building a bigger name. Jinkx is gonna perpetually be on a Christmas tour with Dela and will always remain one babyboi scandal away from cancellation and career suicide
Edge Of Glory Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, publikcitizen said: Hmm interesting... why is Jinkx going to Australia? I would imagine WOW will want the top 4 to do a viewing party together like they did last year for AS6. So I imagine Jinkx may have to fly to LA for this. she’s touring there with DeLa from the 23rd to the 2nd of August, and her schedule seems booked (daily shows from the 27th onward), so she wouldn’t be able to take a flight. maybe they’ll do a zoom viewing party which is w/e, but idk if there’s any precedent for a girl winning when she’s not even in the US
publikcitizen Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Edge Of Glory said: she’s touring there with DeLa from the 23rd to the 2nd of August, and her schedule seems booked (daily shows from the 27th onward), so she wouldn’t be able to take a flight. maybe they’ll do a zoom viewing party which is w/e, but idk if there’s any precedent for a girl winning when she’s not even in the US That is so weird. Wouldn't Jinkx know she would have to be available for the finale, especially if WOW is doing a viewing party event.
publikcitizen Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheOnlyOne said: Reminder that the C in Unty is actually brandable and hirable to other companies + building a bigger name. Jinkx is gonna perpetually be on a Christmas tour with Dela and will always remain one babyboi scandal away from cancellation and career suicide It seems like from the AS winners, only Trixie and Monet have been the most brandable winners. Chad, Alaska, TTT, Shea, and Kylie haven't really had the most success in branding post AS.
TheOnlyOne Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, publikcitizen said: It seems like from the AS winners, only Trixie and Monet have been the most brandable winners. Chad, Alaska, TTT, Shea, and Kylie haven't really had the most success in branding post AS. Wait what kind of false narrative Chad was before the contracts netted WoW a % of the queens earnings so she doesn't count. But to say Shea and Alaska haven't had success in branding post AS is really just false af. Alaska and Shea have both been cast in other shows (Scared Famous & The Bachelorette) BECAUSE they are brandable queens. I know the racists of ATRL are allowed to run rampant on this site and like to gaslight ya'll into believing Shea is a flop but she's definitely in the upper portion of brandable winners. She didn't have her own beer, soap, and weed drinks from nothing - those were all collabs with bigger companies that prove she's brandable. Not on Monet's level certainly but by far the most brandable and profitable queen from AS5. Alaska was pretty much THEE queen prior to leashing herself to Willam a few years back. They made the decision to crown Alaska over Katya because she's more stable and brandable. Katya was more popular by far but the business-minded people in charge knew you can't rely on a on and off again drug addict to bank you money long-term - as seen by Katya's relapse getting her Viceland show cancelled. TTT only won in addition to Monet because she won the popular vote by a HUGE margin and WoW didn't want the fans to be pissed about the winner 3 AS in a row. Similarly, Kylie only won because she won the popular vote by a HUGE margin, had connections to a big celebrity (Miley), and the second most viable option was Ra'Jah who had less than half of Kylie's following. Even though Kylie doesn't have good branding for her own career, she WAS good branding for the show itself in crowning their first trans winner. Eureka & Ginger are far more successful but neither ever hit with the drag race fandom and were the 2 least popular in the fan vote.
justlore Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 I feel really sorry for Shea, WoW made her so dirty for that no-sense edit she got on this season. It would've been better if did not make Top4. She will probably receive a Silky-sized backlash... and for what?
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