hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 6 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: why is miss GF blamed for BDSM ? ILCA wasn't the problem. The dev art for BDSP shows they wanted to do the remakes in the modern SS at the time but GF rushed them. They had to recreate the games in Unity from scratch (which is why BDSP is a modder's paradise). GF/TPCI didn't trust them with the actual engine they use, despite outsourcing them to make an official Pokemon game. ...not that the engine is good, honestly, but tons of dev time went to recreating the wheel 1
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 59 minutes ago, hausofdave said: ILCA wasn't the problem. The dev art for BDSP shows they wanted to do the remakes in the modern SS at the time but GF rushed them. They had to recreate the games in Unity from scratch (which is why BDSP is a modder's paradise). GF/TPCI didn't trust them with the actual engine they use, despite outsourcing them to make an official Pokemon game. ...not that the engine is good, honestly, but tons of dev time went to recreating the wheel we were going to get the DP remake after Sun and moon, but it got delayed since pokemon GO happened and they decided to make Let's GO instead so it's highly possible that it was going to look like LGPE instead of SwSh GF couldn't make the remakes (too many routes, cities etc) in such a short time, that's why TPC decided to give the remakes to ILCA and GF got to make PLA and I don't see any reason why GF was rushing ILCA if anything, miss Nintendo is the one needing a yearly pokemon game for the holiday season
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 11 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: we were going to get the DP remake after Sun and moon, but it got delayed since pokemon GO happened and they decided to make Let's GO instead so it's highly possible that it was going to look like LGPE instead of SwSh GF couldn't make the remakes (too many routes, cities etc) in such a short time, that's why TPC decided to give the remakes to ILCA and GF got to make PLA and I don't see any reason why GF was rushing ILCA if anything, miss Nintendo is the one needing a yearly pokemon game for the holiday season its clear now GF wanted to pushed Gen 4 fully w both a 1:1 remake and a mainline game unlike any other and BDSP suggests that originally Legends was gonna be the Sinnoh revision but became a completely different thing, so they rushed a low effort remake in case people did not like Legends. Besides, the person who directed the remakes was Masuda. ILCA knows how to make good games, in fact I'd say better than GF. ILCA did not pull a chibi styled faithful remake just because they could, they were ordered to. they were apparently only given just about a year of development time starting in the summer of 2020 which is why the initial reveal trailer looked very very rough. 1
Rence Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, G.U.Y said: why is miss GF blamed for BDSM ? Not that he’s the main problem but Masuda still co-directed BDSM 6 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: and I don't see any reason why GF was rushing ILCA if anything, miss Nintendo is the one needing a yearly pokemon game for the holiday season Technically Creatures, Inc. also need the games to launch regularly because they align the release schedules of TCG and all other forms of merchandise with their respective games. In a way, all three owners of The Pokemon Company need to meet certain deadlines to keep the cycle going. 14 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: GF couldn't make the remakes (too many routes, cities etc) in such a short time, that's why TPC decided to give the remakes to ILCA and GF got to make PLA Only reason they couldn’t make BDSM is because they had their hands full at the time After gen 7 ended the main team focused on SwSh then SV, while a smaller team focused on the DLCs. Another team focused on Legends and given how small GameFreak is, there would be no one left to handle BDSM other than Masuda who was going to semi-retire at that point 26 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: we were going to get the DP remake after Sun and moon, but it got delayed since pokemon GO happened and they decided to make Let's GO instead Where did this come from 1
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 7 minutes ago, hausofdave said: its clear now GF wanted to pushed Gen 4 fully w both a 1:1 remake and a mainline game unlike any other and BDSP suggests that originally Legends was gonna be the Sinnoh revision but became a completely different thing, so they rushed a low effort remake in case people did not like Legends. Besides, the person who directed the remakes was Masuda. ILCA knows how to make good games, in fact I'd say better than GF. ILCA did not pull a chibi styled faithful remake just because they could, they were ordered to. they were apparently only given just about a year of development time starting in the summer of 2020 which is why the initial reveal trailer looked very very rough. you completely missed the point Quote ILCA knows how to make good games I don't keep up with them, but when BDSP were revealed, most of their credits were for cinematics, visuals, promotion and assisted some other studios
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 6 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: you completely missed the point Quote I don't see any reason why GF was rushing ILCA if anything, miss Nintendo is the one needing a yearly pokemon game for the holiday season Quote its clear now GF wanted to pushed Gen 4 fully w both a 1:1 remake and a mainline game unlike any other and BDSP suggests that originally Legends was gonna be the Sinnoh revision but became a completely different thing, so they rushed a low effort remake in case people did not like Legends. basic reading comprehension
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, Rence said: Where did this come from there was some tea way back then about sinnoh remake being planned after SM and being light teamed(shining/brilliant/-) since the SM had the light trio similar how (omega/alpha/delta being letter teamed ala X/Y ) 1
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, hausofdave said: basic reading comprehension again, no points made "GF rushing ILCA" is giving "the SV anime is so trash, *** GF"
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Just now, G.U.Y said: again, no points made "GF rushing ILCA" is giving "the SV anime is so trash, *** GF" if u can’t connect the dots well then not my fault that you’re blindsided
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, hausofdave said: if u can’t connect the dots well then not my fault that you’re blindsided again, no dots found henny still waiting for u to post some receipts for this "ILCA knows how to make good games" GF being incompetent trash doesn't make ILCA good
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: again, no dots found henny still waiting for u to post some receipts for this "ILCA knows how to make good games" GF being incompetent trash doesn't make ILCA good its evidently there already that ICLA legitimately had no reason to completely remake the game engine in Unity when they could have let them use what GF had. Whether it was "trust" or some other reason, Game Freak/TPCI set them up for failure. they’re the ones who gave a strict timeline that ultimately led to the poor outcome. to put the blame 100% on ICLA when most of the pieces on why they came to be are already out is just plain dumbfounded. 4 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: still waiting for u to post some receipts for this "ILCA knows how to make good games" OP Odyssey Sand Land -google is an easy click away instead of vigorously defending GF
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, hausofdave said: its evidently there already that ICLA legitimately had no reason to completely remake the game engine in Unity when they could have let them use what GF had. Whether it was "trust" or some other reason, Game Freak/TPCI set them up for failure. they’re the ones who gave a strict timeline that ultimately led to the poor outcome. to put the blame 100% on ICLA when most of the pieces on why they came to be are already out is just plain dumbfounded. OP Odyssey Sand Land -google is an easy click away instead of vigorously defending GF I did google it and I found that they had 0 credits as a main developer when BDSP were released where did I say that it's 100% ILCA's fault ? and me vigorously defending GF ? lol I had to laugh stop projecting hun, it's u that's defending ILCA and Nintendo
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, G.U.Y said: I did google it and I found that they had 0 credits as a main developer when BDSP were released where did I say that it's 100% ILCA's fault ? and me vigorously defending GF ? lol I had to laugh stop projecting hun, it's u that's defending ILCA and Nintendo where was i defending Nintendo? please point to that . you’re the one who’s obviously putting the blame on ICLA primarily and now backtracking if u can comprehend your previous post again not on me
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Just now, hausofdave said: where was i defending Nintendo? please point to that . by refusing to accept that Nintendo is also at fault here ? they are the one with a console out and they need a yearly pokemon game Quote you’re the one who’s obviously putting the blame on ICLA primarily and now backtracking if u can comprehend your previous post again not on me "please point to that . "
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 3 hours ago, G.U.Y said: why is miss GF blamed for BDSM ? you’re literal first response was defending GF. and im still waiting for you to actually quote where i was openly defending Nintendo instead of mouthing something made up from the air
G.U.Y Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Just now, hausofdave said: you’re literal first response was defending GF. and im still waiting for you to actually quote where i was openly defending Nintendo instead of mouthing something made up from the air my 1st response was asking why a game developer was responsible for a game that they didn't develop that's like praising GF for the snap game looking good it makes no sense
hausofdave Posted February 25 Posted February 25 4 minutes ago, G.U.Y said: my 1st response was asking why a game developer was responsible for a game that they didn't develop that's like praising GF for the snap game looking good it makes no sense well thats the million dollar question, but ILCA, if you look at all the games they help make and the games they were lead developers on, they actually have talent. they did the best they could w the resources and schedule given, the main issue was a mismatch of expectations and limited development time
Magickarp Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I mean, I blame Masuda mostly. ILCA clearly wouldn't have creative control. Obviously it wasn't up to them to pick the Art style, Forced-Affection, or whether they would update the gym levels to be more in line with EXP Share. But then i see HOME, which is developed by ILCA & Lord know how long they took to release the SV edition. 1
Magickarp Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I'm surprised Khu hasn't spilt yet. He usually loves grabbing the attention right before a presents 1
Desire Posted February 26 Posted February 26 love how this is always a thread I can count on to have people arguing Nervous about tomorrow. hope to be pleasantly surprised
loveisdead9582 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Giancor said: Gays, what are your predictions? Unfortunately, Nintendo keeps hinting at Unova remakes. Idk how they’re going to handle two different storylines unless they do a BW3 or make B2W2 a dlc package of some sort? Black could be the first story and white could be the second? Idk. A Legends Kyurem with HGSS remakes would make the most sense to me but the HgSS remakes would need more Pokémon than the original 493 available in those games.
BlueBlue Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) Unova with Johto tommorow Edited February 26 by BlueBlue
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