mxoonlight Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 The effortless clear in ratings Vince is DONE. The audience wanted him GONE and now look what happened Ready for SmackDown and Boss and Glow Time really hope they do move up the draft and get some fresh storylines starting for September with new lineups
plaidarms Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, mxoonlight said: really hope they do move up the draft and get some fresh storylines starting for September with new lineups Ideally, they would do it after the Clash PPV. It would be a good reset for the women, and give them a longer time to build to Survivor Series.
Bloodflowers. Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 19 hours ago, CroNich said: I don’t know if I fully agree with this. Shouldn’t it be 50% the wresting and 50% the entertainment. The majority of WWE fans still want to see talent tear the house down in the ring but I do agree the entertainment/storyline factor is just as important, maybe a tiny bit more so. NXT was good when they signed indy wrestlers and gave them GIMMICKS that made them interesting and stand out. Last few years under Hunter was all just "I'm a real, serious wrestler" faceless indy shtick. Imagine if Sasha was never the Boss or Bayley was never the hugger, but were just faceless indy girls "that could wrestler". I don't have a problem with indy wrestlers as long as they get interesting gimmick and storyline other than feeding marks. Speaking of indy wrestlers with gimmicks, Hunter better give Shotzi back her tank this Friday on Smackdown
Bloodflowers. Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Logan Paul's viral SummerSlam match making the GP tune into RAW, thank you GODan Paul
CroNich Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 7 hours ago, XAMJ said: nobody watches WWE for wrestling, they watch it for the entertainment. i loved how matches were maximum of 15 mins back in the day, these 30+ wrestling clinics are BORING, except to the marks. I also love the actual wrestling. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean no one does.
CroNich Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said: NXT was good when they signed indy wrestlers and gave them GIMMICKS that made them interesting and stand out. Last few years under Hunter was all just "I'm a real, serious wrestler" faceless indy shtick. Imagine if Sasha was never the Boss or Bayley was never the hugger, but were just faceless indy girls "that could wrestler". I don't have a problem with indy wrestlers as long as they get interesting gimmick and storyline other than feeding marks. Speaking of indy wrestlers with gimmicks, Hunter better give Shotzi back her tank this Friday on Smackdown Hmmm… perhaps a little bit but from my memory girls like Candice, Rhea, Shayna, Dakota, Io all had gimmicks to the same degree that Bayley, Becky, Sasha and Charlotte did
Crescent Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, CroNich said: Hmmm… perhaps a little bit but from my memory girls like Candice, Rhea, Shayna, Dakota, Io all had gimmicks to the same degree that Bayley, Becky, Sasha and Charlotte did I would say they had way more in-ring psychology telling their matches that supported the storyline. Wouldn't really label it a “gimmick” … more persona.
mxoonlight Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, Crescent said: I would say they had way more in-ring psychology telling their matches that supported the storyline. Wouldn't really label it a “gimmick” … more persona. There's a difference between having a look and having a character. When most if not all of the NXT gimmicks are giving autobiography and not much else, you can't call it a gimmick. Your life story isn't marketable if everyone else's is exactly the same.
andresg770 Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, CroNich said: Hmmm… perhaps a little bit but from my memory girls like Candice, Rhea, Shayna, Dakota, Io all had gimmicks to the same degree that Bayley, Becky, Sasha and Charlotte did Honestly, though, most of these girls felt like they had "nicknames" rather than gimmicks: "The Queen of Spades," "The Nightmare," "The Genius of the Sky." I don't feel like those were as fleshed-out as, say, Bianca's "EST" gimmick, which was backed by multiple vignettes. Even Candice I would say had a much stronger gimmick with "The Way," and that's why the whole group got over on NXT. Had it not been for timing (her pregnancy, Theory catching Vince's eye, Gargano's contract running out), the stable might've made it onto the MR (at least imo). Edited August 4, 2022 by andresg770
slik Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 That is not good -- I wonder if it gives NBCUniversal more or less motive to potentially just buy WWE one day
Jonathan Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 See when your faves have great CHARACTERS, can WRESTLE, and have memborable MATCHES and stories...you dont have to worry about which one you like better
CroNich Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, andresg770 said: Honestly, though, most of these girls felt like they had "nicknames" rather than gimmicks: "The Queen of Spades," "The Nightmare," "The Genius of the Sky." I don't feel like those were as fleshed-out as, say, Bianca's "EST" gimmick, which was backed by multiple vignettes. Even Candice I would say had a much stronger gimmick with "The Way," and that's why the whole group got over on NXT. Had it not been for timing (her pregnancy, Theory getting catching Vince's eye, Gargano's contract running out), the whole stable might've made it onto the MR (at least imo). True. Hopefully they can find a balance going forward between having interesting characters/storyline’s and in ring talent. i honestly feel like they need to hire an anthropologist or something on their creative team so they can build stories around REAL potential dynamics and emotions instead of the same 4 storyline’s we seem to get on repeat.
plaidarms Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 I really enjoyed the women’s tag match on Dynamite - it had some fun spots and the crowd was really into it. (My only complaint is the dentist’s selling) If this is the Madison Rayne agenda, then sign me up.
risetoday Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 Jamie Hayter is my fave. It would be amazing if she took the title off of Sandbag Rosa.
orange22 Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 ignoring that 2nd sentence…Madison Rayne is legendary on the mic
andresg770 Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 2:37 PM, andresg770 said: Why do I get the feeling that one of them's pregnant?? My money would be on Peyton, but then I don't see why Billie couldn't stick around as a singles wrestler... Her SDL run showed she can get over solo. Send your laminated headshot and resume to WWE, queen! Welp, I guess I was a few months early with my prediction but...
EJQL8 Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bussea said: Peyton Royce is pregnant Billie Kay can finally leave her behind.
EJQL8 Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, orange22 said: ignoring that 2nd sentence…Madison Rayne is legendary on the mic Oh wow this is awful. Not everybody can cut a promo like Ms. Ivory.
orange22 Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, EJQL8 said: Oh wow this is awful. Not everybody can cut a promo like Ms. Ivory. and we’re comparing Madison Rayne to Ivory why?
Bloodflowers. Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 9 hours ago, orange22 said: ignoring that 2nd sentence…Madison Rayne is legendary on the mic Madison peaked in 2011 Every promo segment she had was effortless
plaidarms Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 One of WWE’s NIL signees was arrested and charged with sexual battery. I expect this will happen again with the NIL group considering how much of an issue sexual misconduct is in college sports.
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