GhostBox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) Let's just say Kamala takes the spot. She would obviously have to pick a white dude as her VP choice.ย ย so what's everyone's opinions on who it should be?ย ย maybe Roy Cooper from NC?ย Andy Beshear from KY?ย ย ย Edited July 2 by GhostBox
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted July 2 Author ATRL Moderator Posted July 2 26 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Why would they run Kamala though? It's clear they need to distance themselves from Biden's toxic political brand, not give voters another round.ย All they need is to run Kamala as a better alternative to Trump without having to get any more depth and honestly itโll probably work.ย
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted July 2 Author ATRL Moderator Posted July 2 7 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Let's just say Kamala takes the spot. She would obviously have to pick a white dude as her VP choice.ย ย so what's everyone's opinions on who it should be?ย ย maybe Roy Cooper from NC?ย Andy Beshear from KY?ย ย ย Pete 1
GhostBox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 7 minutes ago, Redstreak said: ย I could understand 2 weeks but all the way till September ?๐
Blade Posted July 2 Posted July 2 8 minutes ago, Redstreak said: ย Dumb question; why does this matter? Wasn't the payment instructed to be given before he was President? It couldn't have been an official act.
choerry Posted July 2 Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Let's just say Kamala takes the spot. She would obviously have to pick a white dude as her VP choice.ย ย so what's everyone's opinions on who it should be?ย ย maybe Roy Cooper from NC?ย Andy Beshear from KY?ย ย ย As someone from KY, my vote is for Andyย
GhostBox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 minutes ago, Blade said: Dumb question; why does this matter? Wasn't the payment instructed to be given before he was President? It couldn't have been an official act. I'm sure that's why the judge wants time to go over every detail to make sure theres no room for the Trump team to push this. But come on 2 months? ๐
GhostBox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, khalyan said: Pete There no way the left would be happy with Pete on the ticket ๐ ย kamala is even pushing it for themย
Temporal Posted July 2 Posted July 2 I still firmly believe Biden will remain the nominee (for better or worse) but I expected things to get *less* turbulent 5 days after the debate, not more... 1 1
Vermillion Posted July 2 Posted July 2 15 minutes ago, khalyan said: Pete With hopes for a Prez pipeline? ย McKinsey CIA plant, a livid South Bend black community, and great hearing/interview rebuttal prep aside, this man will never be president.ย ย Starting the pipeline with VP will be seen as too obvious for primary voters and the country is not ready for a gay president. Especially Latino and older black voters, but we're not allowed to talk about that apparently. 1
Redstreak Posted July 2 Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, GhostBox said: There no way the left would be happy with Pete on the ticket ๐ ย kamala is even pushing it for themย Apparently according to that open labs internal polling when difference in name recognition is factored in Pete and Whitmer actually do the best
GraceRandolph Posted July 2 Posted July 2 17 minutes ago, khalyan said: All they need is to run Kamala as a better alternative to Trump without having to get any more depth and honestly it'll probably work.ย Nah, they really need a fresh candidate who can market themselves as a fresh start and distance themselves from Biden. Biden isn't viewed positively and organizers say down ballot candidates are distancing themselves from him.ย 1 1 1
chessguy99 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 25 minutes ago, Espresso said: ย The fact they need to insert themselves more forcefully into the platform process speaks volumes. Actually, the Republican party platform is lining up to be the one thing that will generate some fireworks at the convention. The Trump staff is probably quietly working behind the scenes to keep the platform from going to extreme. There is an influential element of the party that is fully committed to this near Gilead type state.
GhostBox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Just now, Redstreak said: Apparently according to that open labs internal polling when difference in name recognition is factored in Pete and Whitmer actually do the best Which is very surprising.ย ย Iam a fan of Whitmer but I just don't see the party going to her and not Kamala.ย ย Kamala is the first black woman VP. She would also be able to use the hundreds of millions of dollars in the Biden reelection bank and use its ground game.ย ย anyone else would have to start from scratch.ย
GhostBox Posted July 2 Posted July 2 5 minutes ago, Temporal said: I still firmly believe Biden will remain the nominee (for better or worse) but I expected things to get *less* turbulent 5 days after the debate, not more... I agree.ย ย but the media now have a juicy story and they aren't gonna let it go easilyย
GraceRandolph Posted July 2 Posted July 2 This assumption that it has to be Kamala is so weird. If Obama decided to drop out in 2012 around this same time and not seek reelection I doubt Biden would've been the push back then. The party establishment probably would've rallied behind Hillary like in 2008. Kamala has had four years to build national popularity and failed.ย 1
GraceRandolph Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 minute ago, GhostBox said: Which is very surprising.ย ย Iam a fan of Whitmer but I just don't see the party going to her and not Kamala.ย ย Kamala is the first black woman VP. She would also be able to use the hundreds of millions of dollars in the Biden reelection bank and use its ground game.ย ย anyone else would have to start from scratch.ย Let's not act like Dems can't find a way to transfer funds through a PAC or through legal loopholes. This argument doesn't hold up. There are contingency plans for other scenarios.ย 1
Vroom Vroom Posted July 2 Posted July 2 19 minutes ago, Blade said: Dumb question; why does this matter? Wasn't the payment instructed to be given before he was President? It couldn't have been an official act. He signed checks to Cohen while in office. Somehow he will spin it as an official act and our friends in the Supreme Court will probably agree with himย 1
byzantium Posted July 2 Posted July 2 15 minutes ago, GhostBox said: There no way the left would be happy with Pete on the ticket ๐ ย kamala is even pushing it for themย You are not trying to win the left, you are trying to win Michigan and Wisconsin. ย You have a far better chance of doing that with a midwesterner on the ticket than a Californian. ย Remember, Pete won Iowa in 2020. ย 1 1
Temporal Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I agree.ย ย but the media now have a juicy story and they aren't gonna let it go easilyย The Trump campaign can just sit on their VP announcement while Dems spiral; it is just an absolute nightmare. At least there are four months until the election
GraceRandolph Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Kamala just isn't well liked. I'd prefer her to Biden obviously but based on a lot of focus groups voters of all backgrounds tend to be either ambivalent towards her or actively dislike her.ย
HausOfPunk Posted July 2 Posted July 2 45 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: An absolute bloodbath is in our future it seems ย ย 1
If U Seek Amy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 7 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I agree.ย ย but the media now have a juicy story and they aren't gonna let it go easilyย Oh god yeah. They have so many losing their mind and freaking out over a debate and temporary polling drops. They have people right where they want them. I just stopped tuning in for now till people settle 1
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