Vermillion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Will this genuinely move the needle? Pew Research has first debates making a three point difference in November. With margins this close, I suppose this matters. Regardless, I weep for our country. Trump is literally answering none of the questions asked and almost every word is gaslighting or a lie. Biden's disintegrating in real time. Get him some ****ing WATER. Jesus. 2
suburbannature Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, Bloo said: I'm sorry, Democrats, the charges against Trump aren't the silver bullet y'all think it is. I do not care that Trump had sex with a p**n star and got money involved. Nobody cares. That's a farcry from the allegations that he was being paid by Putin to destroy the country or that he would use nuclear weapons on day 1 of his presidency. Our standards of scandal are so much more extreme that no one blinked. I'm happy he was charged for something. But the charge itself doesn't really mean much when housing, food, healthcare, are everyday problems. Speaking of which, why have we not spoken about any of these important issues. This debate is just, "I was a better president than this other guy!" It's boring. Um, he is also charged for his Jan 6 involvement, election tampering, and stealing classified documents. Those ARE important issues.
dawnettakins Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) So embarassing and cringe, I had to turn it off. Good luck to this country! Biden can barely get a sentence out, and no not because of a speech impediment. It's very clear age has taken a worse toll on him and his cognitive capacities than it has to Trump. These are just terrible optics in politics and for an election campaign oml Edited June 28 by dawnettakins 2
Vermillion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Just now, Bloo said: How are we still talking about Charlottesville? I live here and I'm sick of hearing about it
choerry Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Someone get Biden a cough drop and a bottle of water during this break, I beg. 2
Tovitov Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Biden getting better but I worry the first 20 minutes were bad enough that it doesnt matter
shyboi Posted June 28 Posted June 28 10 minutes ago, welham said: The way they brushed off the war on Gaza exactly 1
FameFatale Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 minute ago, BeenTheShit said: I like how Trump just nods while Biden spits facts trashing him. Cause he knows he can say all the ridiculous things he's done and still get votes cause MAGA voters do not care
bunnyeyes Posted June 28 Posted June 28 13 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Biden is losing the debate only because of himself. Not because trumps good 😂 I agree
Vermillion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Just now, suburbannature said: Um, he is also charged for his Jan 6 involvement, election tampering, and stealing classified documents. Those ARE important issues. A shrinking portion of independents are the only ones that matter that agree with you, unfortunately.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 Just now, suburbannature said: Um, he is also charged for his Jan 6 involvement, election tampering, and stealing classified documents. Those ARE important issues. I meant the convictions. He's not convicted for any of those things. His convictions are all about falsification of business records. Nobody cares about that.
BeenTheShit Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 minute ago, Bloo said: How are we still talking about Charlottesville? I mean that was a pretty pivotal moment in the country. Trump was openly backing antisemitism and white nationalist militia groups.
suburbannature Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Just now, Bloo said: I meant the convictions. He's not convicted for any of those things. His convictions are all about falsification of business records. Nobody cares about that. Because those trials haven't happened yet?
Vermillion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 ANY hopes of winning back black and Latino men or young voters, his biggest problem spots, are dead. Regardless of Trump's lies. This was Joe's one chance and he blew it. Also steamrolling through Gaza was grotesque. 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 Just now, BeenTheShit said: I mean that was a pretty pivotal moment in the country. Trump was openly backing antisemitism and white nationalist militia groups. It's not an issue voters care about 7 years after the fact. Biden should be talking about relevant, current issues.
Orsay Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) This is so bad for Biden ugh the democrats are so ******* STUPIDDDD Edited June 28 by Orsay 1
TrymeB Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Only if Biden's ego had allowed him to step aside and let the democrats hold a primary to find us a viable presidential candidate! 3
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