news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[ClashAndBurn]

50 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Biden's campaign has more small donors than trumps campaign which is relying mostly on wealthy donors. 🤷

Joe Biden is the perfect case study for why small dollar donations don't really mean anything.

 

For Joe Biden to show up on the map outside of Delaware, you needed to remove Bernie Sanders. Biden had much more backing from billionaires, and that's really the only thing that counts in politics. Small dollar donations are just poor people wasting money they to get by while living paycheck to paycheck on candidates that win or lose independently of how much small dollar donor cash they spend or have on hand.

 

If anything, Biden v. Bernie proved how grassroots enthusiasm means nothing if the establishment institutions are fully united in their efforts to stop you.

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So are the presidential candidates Trump versus Biden?

 

In that case, what are some of the issues (aside from the Gaza war) that people should be paying attention to right now? And where does each candidate stand on those issues? They've both been presides so far so they should have a track record on: women's rights, economy, democracy, etc. 

[karron0624]

1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Joe Biden is the perfect case study for why small dollar donations don't really mean anything.

 

For Joe Biden to show up on the map outside of Delaware, you needed to remove Bernie Sanders. Biden had much more backing from billionaires, and that's really the only thing that counts in politics. Small dollar donations are just poor people wasting money they to get by while living paycheck to paycheck on candidates that win or lose independently of how much small dollar donor cash they spend or have on hand.

 

If anything, Biden v. Bernie proved how grassroots enthusiasm means nothing if the establishment institutions are fully united in their efforts to stop you.

Grassroots matter when you have a great candidate to root for. Bernie just was it that candidate. Bernie had a very strong base, but his base never grew and that's the true issue. Biden could have lost to Bernie, but even as bad as Biden was, there was not a clear message to overcome the "only passed 4 bills, is too left and can't get center voters," and particularly, the way the Bernie base acted when the vote was split. Instead of grassrooting those people, they attacked, judged, and shunned anyone who choose a different candidate. Sanders could have gotten portions of the voting block that went to Biden had he done some things differently, and would have been better off if Warren had dropped out prior to Super Tuesday as well. But gain, that is just all bad plays on his part.

 

If Obama could beat Hillary after coming from behind on a grassroots campaign, so could Sanders.

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[GhostBox]

26 minutes ago, Espresso said:

 

Vote people. They aren't playing around this time. 

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You reap what you sow you sith lord

 

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[ClashAndBurn]

10 minutes ago, karron0624 said:

Grassroots matter when you have a great candidate to root for. Bernie just was it that candidate. Bernie had a very strong base, but his base never grew and that's the true issue. Biden could have lost to Bernie, but even as bad as Biden was, there was not a clear message to overcome the "only passed 4 bills, is too left and can't get center voters," and particularly, the way the Bernie base acted when the vote was split. Instead of grassrooting those people, they attacked, judged, and shunned anyone who choose a different candidate. Sanders could have gotten portions of the voting block that went to Biden had he done some things differently, and would have been better off if Warren had dropped out prior to Super Tuesday as well. But gain, that is just all bad plays on his part.

 

If Obama could beat Hillary after coming from behind on a grassroots campaign, so could Sanders.

What more could Sanders have done to prevent Warren from acting like a self-interested spoiled ***** and actively sabotaging him in an angle for a futile VP nod? She smeared him as a sexist in a desperate ploy to splinter the progressive base and get women to drop him. He even floated an idea of having her be Treasury Chair AND VP and she still liked her chances better with Biden, who couldn't ever afford picking a race faker over a half-black woman.

 

I frankly don't care about grassrooting with Warrenites after what they did. **** them and **** the entire Democratic Party at this point. You can all have endless Republican rule for all I care. It's what this godforsaken shithole country and its people deserve.

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Stefanik's audition continues….

 

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