woohoo Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Going to enjoy Joe Biden getting destroyed in November over something his base massively are disgusted with him over and something he could've easily gotten a handle of five months ago. Waiting for the downvotes from the obvious xoxo A district in Alabama trump won by 5-8 points in 2020 flipped blue by 25 points yesterday. IN ALABAMA. I wouldn't be so sure or count on the polls. There seems to be a lot of angry women out there voting post roe that didn't before. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I have nothing kind to say about this man. Liberals glowing with praise and reverence for the man who helped turn Obamacare into an ineffective dumpster fire 1
GhostBox Posted March 27 Posted March 27 48 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I have nothing kind to say about this man. Liberals glowing with praise and reverence for the man who helped turn Obamacare into an ineffective dumpster fire Also He was the single worst vp choice I can remember. (A close second being Tim Kaine in 2016). He did absolutely nothing for the Gore ticket.
ClashAndBurn Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Also He was the single worst vp choice I can remember. (A close second being Tim Kaine in 2016). He did absolutely nothing for the Gore ticket. A major part of the trust deficit that Democrats have among young people stems back to the fact that they embraced Lieberman while trying to distance themselves from Bill Clinton despite his popularity after surviving a failed impeachment. Gore ruined himself, as much as Democrats like to blame Nader. 1
Communion Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, woohoo said: A district in Alabama trump won by 5-8 points in 2020 flipped blue by 25 points yesterday. Did Marilyn Lands run her campaign spending 90% of it calling for the slaughter of Palestinian children? I genuinely don't think some of you are stupid, but it makes me feel like I have to say so when seeing people continually not grasp the reality that Biden can simply be less popular and less electable than the generic statewide Dem due to a combination of Biden's own ideologically conservatism and unique weaknesses as a personality. It feels like those who try to deny this obvious reality either 1) maliciously have a material interest in pushing the lie that Biden's right-wing and anti-poor views somehow are good / beneficial to the party at large (objectively wrong and incorrect) or 2) have entered in a cult of personality and care more about stanning Biden than winning elections. Like.. there were literally no polls for Lands' race because it's a small district. Polls can't be wrong when there were none. And polls consistently show state-level Dems (across the spectrum of urban, rural, and suburbs) out-performing Biden. Who are you trying to convince? Edited March 27 by Communion
woohoo Posted March 27 Posted March 27 16 minutes ago, Communion said: Did Marilyn Lands run her campaign spending 90% of it calling for the slaughter of Palestinian children? I genuinely don't think some of you are stupid, but it makes me feel like I have to say so when seeing people continually not grasp the reality that Biden can simply less popular and less electable than the generic statewide Dem due to a combination of Biden's own ideologically conservatism and unique weaknesses as a personality. It feels like those who try to deny this obvious reality either 1) maliciously have a material interest in pushing the lie that Biden's right-wing and anti-poor views somehow are good / beneficial to the party at large (objectively wrong and incorrect) or 2) have entered in a cult of personality and care more about stanning Biden than winning elections. None of the above. Most Americans don't wanna vote Biden but we are again to keep Trump out. I don't trust him, Johnson, and whatever maga nutcase takes over the senate Republican leadership to not pull some religious theocracy bs we're locked into for 50 years. By then hopefully enough young people have turned 18 that actually care about going to the polls and not just posting tiktoks about their dislike of certain candidates. The few of us that do vote can't outvote the moderates and boomers without more of us actually showing up. 2
DoItHonestly Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: I have nothing kind to say about this man. Liberals glowing with praise and reverence for the man who helped turn Obamacare into an ineffective dumpster fire Oh she passed away?
Communion Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 32 minutes ago, woohoo said: but we are again to keep Trump out. There is nothing to suggest that the polling data as-is re: how many people agree or don't agree with this is somehow inaccurate. The one instance of Biden going up against Trump ended up in a razor-thin margin. So again, what evidence is there for you question polling? You're virtue signaling and trying to suggest those who recognize data accurately predicts difficulty for Biden somehow want that outcome. You know that such framing is dishonest so why continue to peddle it? Edited March 27 by Communion
Gottasadae Posted March 27 Posted March 27 46 minutes ago, Communion said: Did Marilyn Lands run her campaign spending 90% of it calling for the slaughter of Palestinian children? I genuinely don't think some of you are stupid, but it makes me feel like I have to say so when seeing people continually not grasp the reality that Biden can simply be less popular and less electable than the generic statewide Dem due to a combination of Biden's own ideologically conservatism and unique weaknesses as a personality. It feels like those who try to deny this obvious reality either 1) maliciously have a material interest in pushing the lie that Biden's right-wing and anti-poor views somehow are good / beneficial to the party at large (objectively wrong and incorrect) or 2) have entered in a cult of personality and care more about stanning Biden than winning elections. Like.. there were literally no polls for Lands' race because it's a small district. Polls can't be wrong when there were none. And polls consistently show state-level Dems (across the spectrum of urban, rural, and suburbs) out-performing Biden. Who are you trying to convince? Your essay is way too long, everything is much simpler. Biden has his own base, but most of other ppl are gonna vote for him coz they can't stand Trump, not because they support Biden decisions to supply Israel government that slaughtering Palestinian children… I can seat at home in protest, I can waste my vote on third party - in the end, it's only will benefit Trump and his lunatics. That's it. 3 1
Communion Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, Gottasadae said: coz they can't stand Trump, It's like talking to a wall. Do not make me repeat myself. 2 minutes ago, Communion said: There is nothing to suggest that the polling data as-is re: how many people agree or don't agree with this is somehow inaccurate. The one instance of Biden going up against Trump ended up in a razor-thin margin. So again, what evidence is there for you question polling? You're virtue signaling and trying to suggest those who recognize data accurately predicts difficulty for Biden somehow want that outcome. You know that such framing is dishonest so why continue to peddle it?
woohoo Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Communion said: There is nothing to suggest that the polling data as-is re: how many people agree or don't agree with this is somehow inaccurate. The one instance of Biden going up against Trump ended up in a razor-thin margin. So again, what evidence is there for you question polling? You're virtue signaling and trying to suggest those who recognize data accurately predicts difficulty for Biden somehow want that outcome. You know that such framing is dishonest so why continue to peddle it? Umm maybe because every special election we've had democrats have over performed the polls by a good margin and that will help him up ballot come election time as well. The republicans in the house have humiliated themselves so bad that even Fox News calls it out. Women are pissed off over IVF and Roe still, which will drive first time voters. Also, Americans haven't warmed up to any Islamic country since 9/11 and it's been 22 years. All most Americans know about Islam is that it isn't kind to gays, women, or other religions and tend to lump all countries of Islam together as one big threat. Thats not me, but generally most Americans, which is why Palestine wont be a huge issue this year other than with a select group of young voters and leftists. Then you have about 10% of the Republican Party refusing to look trumps way who will sit it out or vote for Biden out of protest. I know if Biden wins it will shatter your heart because you need to own the libs over Palestine, but there's a good chance Trump doesn't win. It'll be a close race but overall normal sane Americans are going to reject the MAGA agenda. At the end of of it I think it'll be an election where all moderates left and right ultimately take Trump out. Edited March 28 by woohoo
Communion Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 15 minutes ago, woohoo said: Umm maybe because every special election we've had democrats have over performed the polls by a good margin and that will help him up ballot come election time as well. Again, Democrats in 2018 out-performed Biden in 2020. I'm not sure why this simple fact is hard for some of you to accept. What are you not understanding about the simple - objective - fact that whatever negative partisan boost Dems see in statewide races is watered down by at least 50-75% for Biden against Trump? Genuinely you're borderline illiterate. 15 minutes ago, woohoo said: I know if Biden wins it will shatter your heart because you need to own the libs over Palestine 1 hour ago, Communion said: You're virtue signaling and trying to suggest those who recognize data accurately predicts difficulty for Biden somehow want that outcome Being called a Republican by people who have posted previously about being open to voting for Republicans pre-Trump is... insane. You even acknowledge you have no clue what you're talking about when trying to suggest Biden is ensured an easy win and doesn't need to alter course: 15 minutes ago, woohoo said: It'll be a close race At some point it does just come down to hating poor people on your end. I do not care if you post that you want Biden to win. I want Trump to lose too! I do not care even if you post that you think others should vote for Biden, even if it's unproductive how you choose to do so. It's borderline trolling and anti-intellectualism to however double-down and respond to every poll with "I DO NOT TRUST THE POLLS!!" and make the same circular arguments over and over that have been explained at length. "BUT THE SPECIAL ELECTIONS!!". Biden simply does not perform as-well from the negative partisanship effect as local level Dems. That has been literally observed since 2017. What are you even trying to argue? He objectively has an uphill battle to win even with Trump and MAGA being poisonous politically. I think what's at stake means the DNC needs to get their **** together. You think what's at stake means incoherently screaming at people online about how "leftists love Trump" and mocking dead Palestinian children. Edited March 28 by Communion
GhostBox Posted March 28 Posted March 28 3 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: A major part of the trust deficit that Democrats have among young people stems back to the fact that they embraced Lieberman while trying to distance themselves from Bill Clinton despite his popularity after surviving a failed impeachment. Gore ruined himself, as much as Democrats like to blame Nader. Absolutely. The fact Gore barely even campaigned with Clinton who was very popular at the time was so stupid too.💀 I feel like if Gore would've chosen a female vp (which Jeanne Shaheen from NH was considered) he would've won the election.
woohoo Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Communion said: Again, Democrats in 2018 out-performed Biden in 2020. I'm not sure why this simple fact is hard for some of you to accept. What are you not understanding about the simple - objective - fact that whatever negative partisan boost Dems see in statewide races is watered down by at least 50-75% for Biden against Trump? Genuinely you're borderline illiterate. Being called a Republican by people who have posted previously about being open to voting for Republicans pre-Trump is... insane. You even acknowledge you have no clue what you're talking about when trying to suggest Biden is ensured an easy win and doesn't need to alter course: At some point it does just come down to hating poor people on your end. I do not care if you post that you want Biden to win. I want Trump to lose too! I do not care even if you post that you think others should vote for Biden, even if it's unproductive how you choose to do so. It's borderline trolling and anti-intellectualism to however double-down and respond to every poll with "I DO NOT TRUST THE POLLS!!" and make the same circular arguments over and over that have been explained at length. "BUT THE SPECIAL ELECTIONS!!". Biden simply does not perform as-well from the negative partisanship effect as local level Dems. That has been literally observed since 2017. What are you even trying to argue? He objectively has an uphill battle to win even with Trump and MAGA being poisonous politically. I think what's at stake means the DNC needs to get their **** together. You think what's at stake means incoherently screaming at people online about how "leftists love Trump" and mocking dead Palestinian children. For starters, I never mocked dead kids. Palestine isn't the number one issue on Americans minds, and that's just a fact. People here also tend to ignore the fact that Israel and Palestine have been at odds longer than any of us have been alive. We're just seeing the conflict finally reach the boil over point in real time. Do I agree with Biden on this, no, but it's also not the single issue I base my vote on. He's done better with slim margins than I thought he would and managed to sneak atleast student loan forgiveness in and get payments lowered and more affordable. I'm one of those people. My loans will be forgiven in November and that was my main issue in 2020. Secondly, in the past democrats haven't been outperforming polls by 10+ points and you completely ignored my point that women are pissed off. They aren't going to take what the GOP is doing sitting back, hence the gross over-performance in recent elections. The Alabama election I mentioned that triggered your novels, she ran on protecting abortion and IVF as her key issue. It swung more than 25 points towards democrats. Thats not something to be ignored. Biden is also running on IVF and getting an abortion bill passed. You do that math. One special election, okay that's an outlier, but multiple especially when dems are notorious for ignoring special elections, that's telling us something. Also, I never said Biden was ensured an easy win. I said it's more than likely Trump doesn't win. It will be close, but not as close as 2020. January 6th has happened since and Trump may be a felon by Election Day. And I've never said I'd vote for a republican. No way in hell. Also never called you a Republican, just eager to gloat if biden does lose. Also, how tf does supporting Biden fall into hating poor people. he literally wants to tax billionaires to fund social programs and has done what he can student loan forgiveness wise, and isn't done yet. You say you want trump to lose but you will be one of the first three people on this site gloating if Biden were to lose. Everyone here knows it. You'll break a heel and your left ankle running into this forum to make a post the second trump hits 270. But Don't worry, while you're wanting trump to lose some of us will be out there actually making sure it happens. You can stay home salivating while you post every poll showing Biden down .2% and threading every tweet by some nobody. Keep fighting that good fight. Also, I'm sick of you calling everyone who disagrees with you stupid in a more "polite" wordier manor. Some of us can refrain from being KNOW IT ALL DOUCHEBAGS and some of us can't and that's fine. You don't have self control over it, it's forgiven. All of this because I simply stated Alabamas special election went colossally better for dems than expected which could be good for Biden and you had a fu*king stage 5 triggered meltdown. Edited March 28 by woohoo 1 1
Redstreak Posted March 28 Posted March 28 30 minutes ago, woohoo said: For starters, I never mocked dead kids. Palestine isn't the number one issue on Americans minds, and that's just a fact. People here also tend to ignore the fact that Israel and Palestine have been at odds longer than any of us have been alive. We're just seeing the conflict finally reach the boil over point in real time. Do I agree with Biden on this, no, but it's also not the single issue I base my vote on. He's done better with slim margins than I thought he would and managed to sneak atleast student loan forgiveness in and get payments lowered and more affordable. I'm one of those people. My loans will be forgiven in November and that was my main issue in 2020. Secondly, in the past democrats haven't been outperforming polls by 10+ points and you completely ignored my point that women are pissed off. They aren't going to take what the GOP is doing sitting back, hence the gross over-performance in recent elections. The Alabama election I mentioned that triggered your novels, she ran on protecting abortion and IVF as her key issue. It swung more than 25 points towards democrats. Thats not something to be ignored. Biden is also running on IVF and getting an abortion bill passed. You do that math. One special election, okay that's an outlier, but multiple especially when dems are notorious for ignoring special elections, that's telling us something. Also, I never said Biden was ensured an easy win. I said it's more than likely Trump doesn't win. It will be close, but not as close as 2020. January 6th has happened since and Trump may be a felon by Election Day. And I've never said I'd vote for a republican. No way in hell. Also never called you a Republican, just eager to gloat if biden does lose. Also, how tf does supporting Biden fall into hating poor people. he literally wants to tax billionaires to fund social programs and has done what he can student loan forgiveness wise, and isn't done yet. You say you want trump to lose but you will be one of the first three people on this site gloating if Biden were to lose. Everyone here knows it. You'll break a heel and your left ankle running into this forum to make a post the second trump hits 270. But Don't worry, while you're wanting trump to lose some of us will be out there actually making sure it happens. You can stay home salivating while you post every poll showing Biden down .2% and threading every tweet by some nobody. Keep fighting that good fight. Also, I'm sick of you calling everyone who disagrees with you stupid in a more "polite" wordier manor. Some of us can refrain from being KNOW IT ALL DOUCHEBAGS and some of us can't and that's fine. You don't have self control over it, it's forgiven. All of this because I simply stated Alabamas special election went colossally better for dems than expected which could be good for Biden and you had a fu*king stage 5 triggered meltdown. You know for someone that claims they want trump to lose which is why he says it's important that dems see his way and drop Biden you'd think he'd do better than calling everyone an idiot, something something earn my vote 2
Communion Posted March 28 Posted March 28 23 minutes ago, woohoo said: Secondly, in the past democrats haven't been outperforming polls by 10+ points and you completely ignored my point that women are pissed off. What are you not understanding? No one is denying special election over-performance. It veers into blatant trolling that you seem unable to either understand or refuse to acknowledge the data that shows that Biden does not enjoy the full boost that state-level Dems are getting. Are you illiterate? 36 minutes ago, woohoo said: that triggered your novels This entire back and forth - no one is "triggered", you Republican (I have the suspicion your average centrist is but a few degrees removed from voting for Republicans) - is because you made the asinine statement that somehow polls mean nothing because of the special election in Alabama. You were provided factual context for Marilyn Lands' win and why your post was counter-factual. This has led to now multiple posts of you lashing out over how much you like Biden. 36 minutes ago, woohoo said: Secondly, in the past democrats haven't been outperforming polls by 10+ points Doug Jones literally won this district by 23 points in 2017. The kind of wins in 2017 that were mentioned to you in the first post that you ignored in favor of emotionally rambling. Did Doug Jones winning in 2017 turn Alabama blue in 2020? Did it see Biden over-perform polls in 2020 against Trump nationwide to show he also benefited from anti-Trumpism? No, he crawled over the finish line thanks to some of the highest turnout in ages due to a combination of a both Trump's failures *and* a one-in-a-lifetime pandemic. Your inability to engage with the facts in front of you means you're simply using this thread as some kind of emotional outlet - likely frustrations rooted in knowing Biden is weak. I am not your conservative parents or whatever Republican force in your life you resent and which has made you unable to be critical of Democrats as a governing and politically organizing body. People engaging with the reality that Biden is a weak candidate are not picking on you. You are not a child who needs to be coddled. Your inability to engage with polling at-large and lash out when confronted with it is a failure that you have to work on, no one else.
woohoo Posted March 28 Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, Redstreak said: You know for someone that claims they want trump to lose which is why he says it's important that dems see his way and drop Biden you'd think he'd do better than calling everyone an idiot, something something earn my vote The second he starts name calling I stop taking anything he says seriously because resorting to name calling is a sign of quite low intellect which I am now guilty of but I've FU**ING had my fill of him. He ignores your reasoning but will always proceed to tell you how you're stupid and wrong and can't read and blah blah blah.
Communion Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Redstreak said: You know for someone that claims they want trump to lose which is why he says it's important that dems see his way and drop Biden you'd think he'd do better than calling everyone an idiot, something something earn my vote Not a single soul has asked you to not vote for Biden. Let alone... a liberal in deep red Alabama? Even my vote in New Jersey is worth more to Dems. If you're spending hours and hours of your time engaging in online discussions about elections, you're expected to be a literate adult with a basic understanding of how elections work and be able to bare the sight of these realities. If seeing polls is emotionally catastrophic for someone, they should likely stop reading the thread for their health. This is the "2024 US Election Megathread" - not the "Joe Biden Base" where you're trying to emotionally cope with the first week sales and Hot 100 debut predictions being lower than expected. We've gone from "I DON'T WANNA SEE BACK & FORTH DISCUSSIONS OVER POLICY! I ONLY OPEN THIS THREAD TO KEEP TRACK OF POLLS!!" to a BlueAnon kind of "I DON'T WANT TO SEE POLLS. THE POLLS ARE CHINESE LIES TRYING TO SABOTAGE BIDEN. YOU CAN'T TRUST THE LYING MEDIA!!". Edited March 28 by Communion
Wonderland Posted March 28 Posted March 28 2 hours ago, GhostBox said: 💀 He really does pose a unique kind of danger this election because he attracts both the "anti-vax" and "conspiracy" crowd (who tends to sit on the right) and the "wellness" and "toxic chemicals in water are poisioning us" types (that sit on the left and often in greatest numbers in some of the bluest states). Polling seems to suggest he's pulling about 50/50 from Trump and Biden (perhaps ever so more slightly from Biden), so it will be interesting to see how that changes by election day and how both sides are going to approach his candidacy. 1
Communion Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) Also, I'm sorry, but: Shot - 1 hour ago, woohoo said: For starters, I never mocked dead kids Chaser - On 3/20/2024 at 8:00 PM, woohoo said: Maybe if hamas didn't strike first this wouldn't be happening now would it? Maybe stop being salty about 1948 and let it go. Shot - 57 minutes ago, woohoo said: The second he starts name calling I stop taking anything he says seriously Chaser - On 3/21/2024 at 3:39 PM, woohoo said: most of America doesn't take you seriously. On 3/17/2024 at 2:20 AM, woohoo said: I don't take any of you seriously. Being lectured about what direction the Dems should go in from people in counties where their parents and their parents' parents and their parents' grandparents have voted Republican, despite them having no clue how to actually get Democrats to win is... . If you live in a Congressional district that has been red since your birth, you genuinely would be better off spending your time - if this passionate about elections - volunteering for local Dems instead of spiraling about Biden when polled against Trump. This of course isn't a slight against those who live in red states, but to live in a red state *AND* feel as though the problem with modern politics is progressives being too left-wing...? To see people who have clearly internalized - instead of rejected via self re-education - the ideals of the Republicans around them then claim *I* as a leftist "support Trump" when Biden already got 2 votes out of me, let alone my first ever vote straight out of high school over a decade ago? Ironically this all tying back to how polarization doesn't transcend to all levels of government. I'm more than glad as someone who supports bodily autonomy that the women of Alabama HD-10 voted in someone pro-abortion. You can enjoy that and recognize the micros of such without losing an understanding of the macros that face Biden. And screaming at people that they're "salty supporters of Hamas terrorists" or "hateful leftists flushing the country down the toilet with purity tests no one should take seriously" won't make those challenges vanish. Edited March 28 by Communion
Redstreak Posted March 28 Posted March 28 50 minutes ago, Communion said: Not a single soul has asked you to not vote for Biden. Let alone... a liberal in deep red Alabama? Even my vote in New Jersey is worth more to Dems. If you're spending hours and hours of your time engaging in online discussions about elections, you're expected to be a literate adult with a basic understanding of how elections work and be able to bare the sight of these realities. If seeing polls is emotionally catastrophic for someone, they should likely stop reading the thread for their health. This is the "2024 US Election Megathread" - not the "Joe Biden Base" where you're trying to emotionally cope with the first week sales and Hot 100 debut predictions being lower than expected. We've gone from "I DON'T WANNA SEE BACK & FORTH DISCUSSIONS OVER POLICY! I ONLY OPEN THIS THREAD TO KEEP TRACK OF POLLS!!" to a BlueAnon kind of "I DON'T WANT TO SEE POLLS. THE POLLS ARE CHINESE LIES TRYING TO SABOTAGE BIDEN. YOU CAN'T TRUST THE LYING MEDIA!!". Idk why you're bringing up voting when the part you bolded had nothing to do with voting Biden
woohoo Posted March 28 Posted March 28 44 minutes ago, Communion said: What are you not understanding? No one is denying special election over-performance. It veers into blatant trolling that you seem unable to either understand or refuse to acknowledge the data that shows that Biden does not enjoy the full boost that state-level Dems are getting. Are you illiterate? This entire back and forth - no one is "triggered", you Republican (I have the suspicion your average centrist is but a few degrees removed from voting for Republicans) - is because you made the asinine statement that somehow polls mean nothing because of the special election in Alabama. You were provided factual context for Marilyn Lands' win and why your post was counter-factual. This has led to now multiple posts of you lashing out over how much you like Biden. Doug Jones literally won this district by 23 points in 2017. The kind of wins in 2017 that were mentioned to you in the first post that you ignored in favor of emotionally rambling. Did Doug Jones winning in 2017 turn Alabama blue in 2020? Did it see Biden over-perform polls in 2020 against Trump nationwide to show he also benefited from anti-Trumpism? No, he crawled over the finish line thanks to some of the highest turnout in ages due to a combination of a both Trump's failures *and* a one-in-a-lifetime pandemic. Your inability to engage with the facts in front of you means you're simply using this thread as some kind of emotional outlet - likely frustrations rooted in knowing Biden is weak. I am not your conservative parents or whatever Republican force in your life you resent and which has made you unable to be critical of Democrats as a governing and politically organizing body. People engaging with the reality that Biden is a weak candidate are not picking on you. You are not a child who needs to be coddled. Your inability to engage with polling at-large and lash out when confronted with it is a failure that you have to work on, no one else. Doug Jones ran against a pedophile in 2017, I'd hope he'd win by that margin. Biden may not enjoy the full boost of special elections but he will get a chunk of it. Also, special elections and midterms are a better indicator than polls. I never said they are totally useless but at this point you cannot deny special election after special election being 10+ points outside of polling in some cases is something to ignore. Even if Biden under-performers them they are showing so strongly that he can take a greater hit percentage wise and still win. You throwing out 4-7 year old elections while ignoring the fact that in 2022 democrats were suppose to get destroyed and they didn't. You choose to ignore the fact that every election post Roe has lead to polls being grossly inaccurate. Virginia is a bellwether state from just November where dems flipped the house and gained in the senate with redrawn districts that republicans where more likely to win. Polls are not the tell all you want them to be. its rich that you say im borderline republican coming from lifelong democrat parents who I am farther left than. If you'd get off your ass and stop posting polls and threading tweets and go door knocking and phone banking you'd discover like I have that there are many many first time voters coming. It's almost made my volunteering useless because a lot of people are already registered or plan on it before Election Day, and I'd say half of them mention roe as the reason. you're a master at putting words in peoples mouths or your comprehension skills are piss poor. I never said Biden was daddy god candidate. He's not been perfect BUT student loan forgiveness and the infrastructure bill affected me positively and not wanting to put My gay ass back in the closet are motivators for me. People like you turn many off to accepting the genocide in Palestine. Acting like a smug know it all and name calling isn't spreading awareness and people aren't gonna listen to what you have to say about any of it acting like that. I got more information out of a single tiktok than the entirety of your posts on this site because I stop reading most due to you being such a smug holier than thou prick. lastly I'm not lashing out because of conservative forces behind me, I'm lashing out because you a self righteous dick head who thinks he can talk down to literally every one here but I'm not gonna take your bullshit like some. I didn't ask you to coddle me I didn't want your ass talking to me because I can't stand you but here we are, I make an observation about polling being off and you go to crazy town and name calling. Is that the adult conversation you are speaking of having? 2
Communion Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, Redstreak said: Idk why you're bringing up voting when the part you bolded had nothing to do with voting Biden Of course it does. The primary is over. Biden is the nominee. People criticizing Biden are asking he change his policy trajectory to improve his chances of winning the general. The people asking Biden to stop purposefully bleeding and alienating potential voters do not care if you vote for Biden nor are they trying to stop you. You've only imagined this is the dynamic at hand because you've internalized whatever red state trauma you have, despite this attitude that the medium voter is an Alabamian or somehow the median voter should be assumed as the most conservative is in-effect nothing but the ratchet-effect to keep the country right-ward. Biden's campaign should literally just be pin-pointing whatever policies poll well with the vast majority Dem voters. It's not rocket science to be aghast when he misses this. Why would a candidate trying to win elections come out and say he's against a policy like M4A that 80% of Dem voters want?
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