Vermillion Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 Cross Russia/Ukraine thread (This has already been reported extensively since April but apparently MSM get to act like this is new information)
Ms. Togekiss Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 3:11 PM, anti-bitch said: But do Republicans deserve to control the whole congress? In my opinion, no, never! Sometimes it feels like some people here just want to see the country burn. Expand They obviously don’t, but Dems have completely failed and have not delivered anything these past 2 years, which is why I expect republicans to control all 3 come 2025. They’re United, Dems are not (because they keep failing to deliver)
Chemist Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 This issue won't be remembered by November but this is crazy lol
Mean Trees Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 I am ready for the 503 Service Unavailable political crisis to be over. It's just getting too much now. Dems should have definitely solved the issue back in 2009 when they had a majority but I guess it ''wasn't convenient''. See I can have a sense of humor about myself
Kassi Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 3:11 PM, anti-bitch said: But do Republicans deserve to control the whole congress? In my opinion, no, never! Sometimes it feels like some people here just want to see the country burn. Expand For many of the people on that side of the aisle, politics is more about ~vibes~ than anything else. Once you understand that, it’s much easier to contextual their viewpoints. That’s why, for example, they’ll latch on to a politician with no history of legislative victory (Bernie Sanders) because he makes them feel good in the same way that a popstar would, despite claiming to want ~results~. But then turn around and minimize any achievements initiated by legislators they personally dislike. I’ll give an even simpler example, these are the same people always going off on Biden’s failure to use the fictional “bully pulpit” when in negotiations with Congress. Then as soon as Biden makes a statement about what things need to change, they’ll flip out saying “you’re the President do something!” All while purposely obfuscating that Democrats do NOT have unified control of the government like they claim.
Kassi Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 7:47 PM, Armani? said: Expand I’m sorry, but the quote tweets. All those nerds supposedly feeling empowered over some stupid chanting. “Riot! Protest! Take to the streets! Revolution! “ And all this in 2017 when Stephen Miller was somewhere carrying out his white supremacist immigration agenda. I wonder how many of these twerps (both the ones protesting and the quote tweeters) follow Bernie and don’t even know that he worked with insurrectionist Chuck Grassley to sink Pelosi’s 2007 Immigration Reform bill. @anti-*****This is what I mean when I say that politics is about ~vibes~ to these kinds of people.
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted June 27, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 7:47 PM, Armani? said: Expand This should be happening every day with every politician. They need to be reminded that they work for us. On 6/27/2022 at 10:24 PM, Kassi said: I’m sorry, but the quote tweets. All those nerds supposedly feeling empowered over some stupid chanting. “Riot! Protest! Take to the streets! Revolution! “ And all this in 2017 when Stephen Miller was somewhere carrying out his white supremacist immigration agenda. I wonder how many of these twerps (both the ones protesting and the quote tweeters) follow Bernie and don’t even know that he worked with insurrectionist Chuck Grassley to sink Pelosi’s 2007 Immigration Reform bill. @anti-*****This is what I mean when I say that politics is about ~vibes~ to these kinds of people. Expand I don’t know what’s worse: you expecting these left-leaning people to go bother Republicans or still acting like Bernie isn’t one of the most progressive politicians in office This is absolutely the way to go. These politicians are way too comfortable.
Beyonnaise Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 The amount of moderates I’ve seen dragging the Dums The GP is waking up
Communion Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 The whole thread turning on Kassi. No one buying the delusions of affluent centrism. The people with power are sitting on their hands while progressives are putting themselves in danger by helping the most need know how to skirt fascist laws that corporate Dems have refused to take action on. I rarely have much emotional enamor over elected officials, but good on AOC.
Kassi Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 10:46 PM, Marvin said: This is absolutely the way to go. These politicians are way too comfortable. Expand Doesn’t matter. They can SCREAM and SHOUT and LET IT ALL OUT, but without the congressional majorities nothing changes. This applies equally to both Democrats and Republicans. Don’t know why people can’t grasp that simple fact. Ann Coulter, one of Trump’s original and biggest supporters was constantly cutting him DOWN throughout his presidency, and yet there was nothing he could do in the end to keep his promises. Even his little coup attempt to stay in power failed. But the SINGULAR thing he did get done — nominating judges — opened the door to Roe rollback. And even that “victory” had a delayed onset time of about 4 years. If you told leftists they had to wait one election cycle, let alone 4 years, for anything, the onslaught of “Do Something!!” tweets would be enough to fill all of Twitter’s servers.
Kassi Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 The way Trump did everything, legal, illegal, and otherwise, to try and keep his promises, but could only manage a budget reconciliation tax cut. No infrastructure No wall No abortion ban No ended wars No ACA repeal No paid family leave No manufacturing No DACA repeal Literally an abject failure of a Presidency (and the first one-term President in decades) from the POV of his constituency. Yet, the left will try and convince you that Republicans have this unassailable grasp of government that Democrats are just refusing to mirror. Like Mimi said: it must be the weed, it must be the E.
Kassi Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 11:21 PM, Communion said: The whole thread turning on Kassi. No one buying the delusions of affluent centrism. Expand Y’all won’t break my soul and I’m definitely telling everybody (to vote Democrat in November).
Cruel Summer Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 I can’t wait to vote Green or whatever in November
Ms. Togekiss Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 that Kamala interview on CNN they really think they will be re-elected
Thuggin Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 It’s just gross that, with the exception of AOC and a few others, the singular message of the Democratic Party is to vote for more Democrats. That’s not good enough. All polls show historic losses for Dems in the coming midterms. Biden may very well lose in 2024. Even if we somehow did pick up more seats in the Senate, there are not enough flippable seats to achieve a filibuster-proof majority. And the last time we did have that filibuster-proof supermajority - which may never happen again for decades - Biden was literally in the White House and Roe was never codified into law anyway despite Obama having highlighted that as his first priority while on the campaign trail. These are the facts. And moderates expect people to be fine with fundraising emails and calls to vote? How can it not look like Democrats capitalizing on a loss of rights with no intention of delivering for their constituents? Biden and Democrats may not have unlimited power, but if they at least tried to fight we might be able to respect their efforts. They don’t want to eliminate the filibuster. They don’t want to expand the courts. Therefore, they’re not going to be doing anything for us before or after the midterms even if we do manage to retain the House majority and flip a few Senate seats, which is already unlikely.
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 Their ratings are goin down. I’m yellin TIMBERRRRRR!
Vermillion Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 Rachel's still doing Mondays and the plans have been in the works for over a year as they didn't agree to give her more time off during the year in her contract. She's also doing other projects for MSNBC as she just signed a new contract. Alex probably isn't looking to compete with Rachel's prior numbers either. And no cable network is under the illusion (at least to their show, by TV or through streaming) they'll be attracting younger viewers anyways. In terms of any perceived or real neolibs, Alex seems relatively harmless compared to several other pundits at the network. I've liked her work on Showtime's The Circus, for what it's worth. Whatever.
Kassi Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 1:20 AM, Thuggin said: Biden and Democrats may not have unlimited power, but if they at least tried to fight we might be able to respect their efforts. Expand Why lie? We know this to be patently false. Two quick points: The fact that Dems are the only party to enthusiastically pursue abortion rights, healthcare, climate, welfare, immigration, voting rights, and labor protection policies should be enough. Especially while the opposition party darts in the stark opposite direction… to the point of even hating democracy itself. So let’s start there. The lack of respect Dems get for that positioning ALONE is enough to nullify your point. But more pertinent to this moment, I've yet to see one vote taken that folks, including Senate Dems, knew was going to fail, held the vote anyway, and Dems were given credit for trying. The attempt to revoke the filibuster for voting rights comes to mind, and ppl didn't care that Dems tried, just that they failed. Similarly, our very own @Mean Treeshad no clue that 2 votes (and going on 3) had already been taken on abortion legislation this year. Sis was still stuck in 2021 in order to justify their preconceived judgments. The far left is just not being honest in this debate. Their ”solutions” consist of hollow gestures like going to campaign in West Virginia… where Joe Manchin is popular and Joe Biden is reviled. And when those attempts fall flat or backfire (see Kamala speaking to WZAS news in WV), that effort is instantly memory-holed.
i spit on haters Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 12:39 AM, Cruel Summer said: I can’t wait to vote Green or whatever in November Expand Wow, same, ha ha.
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