rihannabiggestfan Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, anti-***** said: I like Sunny sometimes, but she's way too into identity politics. I find it funny how the identity politics stans only care about identity politics when it benefits their neoliberal faves (for instance, they didn't care that Bernie would have been the first Jewish president whereas Biden is the first N/A identity-wise lol), it's as if they don't actually care about identity politics and simply weaponize them (oh wait, tea)
Sergi91 Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) Not a poll including Jill running against Joe Edited June 16, 2022 by Sergi91
anti-bitch Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, rihannabiggestfan said: I find it funny how the identity politics stans only care about identity politics when it benefits their neoliberal faves (for instance, they didn't care that Bernie would have been the first Jewish president whereas Biden is the first N/A identity-wise lol), it's as if they don't actually care about identity politics and simply weaponize them (oh wait, tea) Yeah, the realiTea is that an SWC (straight, white and Christian) man is still gonna have an advantage in elections. And it comes down to relatability as most people in the country are SWC's still, so they vote for their own kind. Obama won with his personal charm, but there's still people who would never vote for a black person, or queer, or atheist, or a woman even.
chessguy99 Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Harris-Buttigieg would be the easiest possible W for the Republicans EVER. These delulu liberals are completely out of touch with reality Hard to beat 1984 Reagan v Mondale, Mondale only won his home state of Minnesota and DC. I think they'd still win a good number of states, but all the swing states would go red.
rihannabiggestfan Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 The biggest loss since 1988, easily. Speaking of which ( ), I want to stan Jesse Jackson and Patricia Schroeder A BIT . Jackson's progressive platform and not homophobic like other Dems in the 80s (and after) "Considered a long-shot candidate, Schroeder received no support from the Democratic National Committee and women's groups. Twenty years later, she said, she was still receiving hate mail—mostly from women—because of her tears" and coincidentally, both have supported Bernie: Jackson endorsing him and Schroeder defending him against a homophobic, right-wing raT
jakeisphat Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Sergi91 said: Not a poll including Jill running against Joe Why the **** are they including her at all? And can they stop including Michelle and Hillary in these polls... trying to make fetch happen.
Communion Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Nearly 90% of black voters want student debt forgiveness now yet Dems are still holding out LITERALLY the ONLY group when polled who don't show majority support are REPUBLICAN RETIREES!!! Warren's $50k proposal literally supported over and over in poll by a majority of voters!!
ClashAndBurn Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Communion said: Nearly 90% of black voters want student debt forgiveness now yet Dems are still holding out LITERALLY the ONLY group when polled who don't show majority support are REPUBLICAN RETIREES!!! Warren's $50k proposal literally supported over and over in poll by a majority of voters!! Biden in August: “We have determined that forgiving any amount of student debt, including $10k, would amount to inflationary spending, and thus have decided that it would be an inappropriate step to take at this time. Furthermore, we will be taking steps to reinstate student loan payments as soon as possible and will be making it our top priority as part of our initiative to get inflation under control.” I can see it now
ClashAndBurn Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, chessguy99 said: Hard to beat 1984 Reagan v Mondale, Mondale only won his home state of Minnesota and DC. I think they'd still win a good number of states, but all the swing states would go red. Geographic polarization pretty much makes a 1984 scenario impossible. California and New York aren't ever flipping red, Texas honestly isn't going to be flipping blue no matter how high on hopium Democrats have gotten over that state. Very clear the way Latinos are trending away from Dems that that state isn't going anywhere. Nevada certainly looks like it'll flip, and New Mexico could be on the table too. Thinking Virginia also goes back to being a tossup rather than Lean D or whatever it is considered right now.
Vermillion Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Geographic polarization pretty much makes a 1984 scenario impossible. California and New York aren't ever flipping red, Texas honestly isn't going to be flipping blue no matter how high on hopium Democrats have gotten over that state. Very clear the way Latinos are trending away from Dems that that state isn't going anywhere. Nevada certainly looks like it'll flip, and New Mexico could be on the table too. Thinking Virginia also goes back to being a tossup rather than Lean D or whatever it is considered right now. Virginia was always considered a tossup state by local political observers like Larry Sabato but the national press has run with the narrative it leans blue since McDonnell imploded, lazily. They're now learning, slowly, that that was never the case.
Vermillion Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 5 hours ago, anti-***** said: Yes, they do, but I just question whether Republicans are going to help with any of that. And I know too many Dems won't either. And many GOP voters are just fine financially, so it's not really about struggling. IIRC poor people tend to vote Left.
Communion Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, anti-***** said: Yes, they do, but I just question whether Republicans are going to help with any of that. And I know too many Dems won't either. And many GOP voters are just fine financially, so it's not really about struggling. IIRC poor people tend to vote Left. Except you know that what is causing *this* moment is not angry Republicans. Of course Republicans hate Biden - they have from the start. Biden's approvals are collapsing amongst Democrats before anyone else. Democrats who tend to be lower-income and who will stay home if they don't feel there's hope for more. I can only speak for myself, but I don't get how some of you can't even grasp what hopelessness can make people feel. I would never hurt myself or take my life or anything, but genuinely, if Biden fails to act on student debt, I would pretty much accept that my life is obsolete and won't really matter anymore. Because while going to college has taken me out of destitute that my family used to know, all being a first-generation college grad has given me is now being the main source of income for my household, consisting of a disabled parent and a sibling who lacks steady income cause of drug addiction. I will never pay off the tens of thousands of debt that I still owe. I will not be able to pay it off even in the 20-year-period the loans were set-on. I will thus never own a home. I will always have to worry about payments restarting and their unaffordability. So if there is nothing to look forward to left in life.. why would I feel voting is necessary? If Dems explicitly tell me better things are not possible, why would I find it imperative to keep them in office? How is this such a wild concept that some of you repeatedly fail to grasp it? The point of politics is to inspire. Literally we have only made the strides in attitude re: progressive policy we have because an old socialist used very aggressive language that better things not only are possible but they're a moral imperative and we must act now. Edited June 17, 2022 by Communion
rihannabiggestfan Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Apparently everyone who isn't an absolute Trump simp in 2022 is an American hero. Except Bernie, Bernie bad! that's literally how these Nancy Reagan and McCain and Bush-stanning neolibs (especially KHive ) are!
Mike91 Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, DAP said: There's very little difference between Mike Pence and Donald Trump politically. It's all stylistic and that about sums these people up. Mike Pence could do everything Trump did, but as long as he didn't send out mean tweets, they couldn't care less and are literally calling him a hero.
Vermillion Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Pence is not running for President, Pence is not running for Senator, Pence is not running for ****ing School Board. Neocons and neolibs needing to fill clickbait quota make the asinine argument of any evangelical neocon split-away to a DNC neolib candidate. Pence will likely join some religious Super PAC as an advisor and retirely quietly with Mother in about 5-6 years. So sick of hearing about him at this point. He was supposed to save democracy - you don't get a medal for regretting joining the ticket of a Tannikin Hellwalker at the opportune time, sorry. I realize Rome's on fire at the moment, but I'm under no obligation to incinerate any bar - that goes for Dick Cheney's daughter too.
Vermillion Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Still some Trumpers at DOJ, not to mention the NYC FBI Field Office back from 2016, and besides, the DOJ can get pissy when they start prosecuting the elected officials behind the attempted coup and not just the morons who showed up.
Vermillion Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Cancun Cruz Round 2. This is arguably worse though
ClashAndBurn Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Liberals making Pence out to be a hero… during the same pride month they’ve exalted Nancy Reagan with a stamp… It’s almost too perfect at this point.
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