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[VOSS]

Dems will be losing a lot of voters if they go the Hasan Piker route.

[TeeJay]

4 minutes ago, VOSS said:

Dems will be losing a lot of voters if they go the Hasan Piker route.

Dems just lost millions of voters by going to biden and harris route. So what's the solution then?

[VOSS]

30 minutes ago, TeeJay said:

Dems just lost millions of voters by going to biden and harris route. So what's the solution then?

Joe Biden and Hasan Piker are not the only two options

 

Bernie is a socialist from a blue state who underperformed Harris in the election. It's not clear why it would be a good idea for Dems to look to him instead of a purple or red state dem.

Edited Tuesday at 10:55 PM by VOSS

[Ewan Chaos]

Period, let's roll Liz Cheney back out.

[GhostBox]

 

[CandyCoatedClouds]

The dems who were giving Hegseth the hard questions were so satisfying to watch. Especially Hirono, she was eating him up every time he spoke. He was pathetic to watch, and once we get overcome his Trump period of US history, future kids in history books will read about him and this moment and wonder why people were so foolish to vote for this con artist.

[Communion]

1 hour ago, VOSS said:

Joe Biden and Hasan Piker are not the only two options

 

Bernie is a socialist from a blue state who underperformed Harris in the election. It's not clear why it would be a good idea for Dems to look to him instead of a purple or red state dem.

Sister, you seemingly have the politics of an upper-class first-generation tech worker whose main priorities are institutionalizing the homeless and ending "oppressive regulations" like that 30-floor apartment buildings should legally have working elevators for the elderly and disabled.

 

Democrats lost a lot of voters, but it needs to be reiterated that this weird intersection of affluent demographics your politics is aligned with is not who they lost.

 

In fact, Dems probably hurt themselves by prioritizing this Centrist Costco Suburb Mom demographic. Economically right-wing so you hate public services AND socially reactionary that you ALSO depress working class black turnout because you think black people are somehow sabotaging other races? lnknjkn worst of both worlds!

 

Basically if you have like a yearly income of $150k+ and think thing the #1 priority in the US was ending DEI/affirmation action, your priorities might actually be why Dems lost.

[VOSS]

8 minutes ago, Communion said:

Sister, you seemingly have the politics of an upper-class first-generation tech worker whose main priorities are institutionalizing the homeless and ending "oppressive regulations" like that 30-floor apartment buildings should legally have working elevators for the elderly and disabled.

 

Democrats lost a lot of voters, but it needs to be reiterated that this weird intersection of affluent demographics your politics is aligned with is not who they lost.

 

In fact, Dems probably hurt themselves by prioritizing this Centrist Costco Suburb Mom demographic. Economically right-wing so you hate public services AND socially reactionary that you ALSO depress working class black turnout because you think black people are somehow sabotaging other races? lnknjkn worst of both worlds!

 

Basically if you have like a yearly income of $150k+ and think thing the #1 priority in the US was ending DEI/affirmation action, your priorities might actually be why Dems lost.

I'm not going to pretend that deregulating housing would be popular with voters. It obviously isn't, which is why we're in a housing crisis, but it would seriously help renters if we could build more in our cities and would also make immigration more palatable to the public if one can point to the expanding supply so immigrants aren't seen as competition for limited housing stock. And it would stop the flow of people from expensive blue cities to relatively cheaper red states which is going to ruin the apportionment for Dems in 2030.

 

DEI doesn't work as implemented, particularly in academia, because it is often authoritarian and seen as in opposition to freedom of speech and inquiry. That's why it's unpopular and why Dems would be wise to back off.

[VOSS]

Also, you hate America and the West more broadly. I strongly suspect that your politics would be much more toxic to the average voter than mine.

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, VOSS said:

Also, you hate America and the West more broadly. I strongly suspect that your politics would be much more toxic to the average voter than mine.

Me = Loves America because I love Americans and think every American:

• is entitled to the right to see a doctor whenever they need;
• is entitled to have the safety and security of a roof over their head cause housing is not a commodity;
• is entitled to the ability to go to college if they want without being bankrupted because an educated populace helps everyone;

Kinda giving away the game that you think I hate America (and... the West?) because I don't like capitalism as an inherently exploitative mode of economics!

 

The leftist worldview is one that views society and people as inherently good and worthy of everyone equally enjoying the world's riches!

 

The counterpoint of the 1% being oppressors is that the 99% should come together in shared solidarity and can become most people are good!

 

Sister, I genuinely know nothing about you and won't actually pretend to but it's just so odd to encounter what is possibly someone living up to the caricature of affluent reactionary politics. Like isn't every transplant in Seattle some affluent tech startup guy? Someone with that high quality of life can't ACTUALLY be tricked enough to fall into empty politics like "DEI = anti-white/anti-Asian racism!!", right??? dddd 

 

Like I just genuinely think anyone who makes six figures is not entitled to think they can try out grievance politics nor can I actually believe any of it is at all earnest? jkjnkn 

 

Like if you can afford to regularly see a dentist, what do you mean DEI/CRT/affirmative action/wokeness/etc. are upending your quality of life?! kfjnbkfgjn 

[Communion]

22 minutes ago, VOSS said:

DEI doesn't work as implemented, particularly in academia, because it is often authoritarian and seen as in opposition to freedom of speech and inquiry. That's why it's unpopular and why Dems would be wise to back off.

Centrists = "The left cannot be trusted! They are not reliable allies! They will always validate right-wing talking points eventually!

 

Also centrists = *endorse Republicans basically saying not being able to see the r-slur in your six-figure paying workplace is akin to facing genocide* kjdfnvkdjnf ??????

 

 

[VOSS]

13 minutes ago, Communion said:

Me = Loves America because I love Americans and think every American:

• is entitled to the right to see a doctor whenever they need;
• is entitled to have the safety and security of a roof over their head cause housing is not a commodity;
• is entitled to the ability to go to college if they want without being bankrupted because an educated populace helps everyone;

Kinda giving away the game that you think I hate America (and... the West?) because I don't like capitalism as an inherently exploitative mode of economics!

 

The leftist worldview is one that views society and people as inherently good and worthy of everyone equally enjoying the world's riches!

 

The counterpoint of the 1% being oppressors is that the 99% should come together in shared solidarity and can become most people are good!

 

Sister, I genuinely know nothing about you and won't actually pretend to but it's just so odd to encounter what is possibly someone living up to the caricature of affluent reactionary politics. Like isn't every transplant in Seattle some affluent tech startup guy? Someone with that high quality of life can't ACTUALLY be tricked enough to fall into empty politics like "DEI = anti-white/anti-Asian racism!!", right??? dddd 

 

Like I just genuinely think anyone who makes six figures is not entitled to think they can try out grievance politics nor can I actually believe any of it is at all earnest? jkjnkn 

 

Like if you can afford to regularly see a dentist, what do you mean DEI/CRT/affirmative action/wokeness/etc. are upending your quality of life?! kfjnbkfgjn 

I think the 99% should come together to raise taxes on corporations and the 1% instead of tearing the whole system down and praying the US is the first to have a successful socialist/communist revolution.

 

I never said DEI is undermining my quality of life. But the DEI training I received at my liberal arts college felt like a struggle session at points and the DEI training I received at my job was mostly anti-union propaganda. I don't get the sense that it's much better elsewhere.

[FameFatale]

Ohhhhh the girls are fighting. 
 

 

[Mike91]

3 hours ago, VOSS said:

Dems will be losing a lot of voters if they go the Hasan Piker route.

They've already lost the working class in this country and you think it's because they were too populist? 

[wastedpotential]

2 hours ago, FameFatale said:

Ohhhhh the girls are fighting. 
 

 

Not the word "chile" singlehandedly getting Nancy Mace worked into a frenzy despite not having anything to say about the allegations

 

Maybe her re-election campaign really is bankrupt already 

[Chemist]

 

[woohoo]

1 hour ago, Chemist said:

 

He really fooled me . Please tell me I'm not the only one because what happened to him

[Chemist]

Very populist of him

[Relampago.]

DEI isn't even a bad thing, it's just implemented as a bandaid solution without and substantial support that makes it worthwhile.

 

DEI + Support for public programs = higher quality of life and more diverse thought and approach to everyday issues and larger issues since everyone is able to have access to the same resources and opportunities. 

DEI + Neoliberal politics = Waving a rainbow flag outside a hospital while people sit outside wondering if they should take on a 3rd job to pay for their spouse's chronic illness treatment, but it's all good cause the CEO of the hospital is a Black woman! 

 

One of the US's greatest strengths is its diversity and ability to pull from so many different backgrounds and perspectives to get a leg up on accommodating people from all different backgrounds to then enhance their strengths and knowledge for a greater good in society. For example, I don't know what people think mass deportations will do, at what point will people realize immigration is necessary and inevitable? You'll have to find some way to get everyone to come to the table and get along, since we have to coexist on this planet. 

 

Also.. DEI is authoritarian so that's why Democrats lost…? So the party that wants to: 

1.) Control people's bodies

2.) Control and censor social media

3.) Ban books and important topics in school

4.) Determine who can and cannot marry in private

Etc. isn't authoritarian?

 

It's reasons like these that I actually have become fully disaffected with the Democratic Party as is. There's absolutely zero conviction in anything. It's always about "we need to win!" and never standing by the people you said you supported. Always panicking, always behind the curve, never strategic and never looking into the further future. The Dems definitely need to stop using identity politics as a crutch, yes, but the way the party and its base are so quick to rush to throw minorities under the bus again is exactly why no one ****s with the party anymore. Always using minorities for votes without showing any loyalty or appreciate to those same people who stood by your incompetent party for decades. 

 

Now that the Republicans have welcomed them with open arms, you've lost them. That's not DEI's fault, that's just plain incompetence in governing. I don't know how Democrats manage to be MORE incompetent than Republicans, but Republicans certain have a backbone and conviction, of which Democrats have none. They stand for nothing and fail to innovate in and out of power. 

[dman4life]

I wish Jasmine woulda ate her ass up Nancy Mace is such trash and has been getting away with the garbage coming out her mouth for far too long!

[dabunique]

Da meltdowns da Cubans r having down here brings such a smile to my face 

 

it's what my people deserve 

[Armani?]

14 hours ago, VOSS said:

Dems will be losing a lot of voters if they go the Hasan Piker route.

What exactly is the Hasan Piker route to you?

[Vermillion]

 

[Vermillion]

Tired of hearing from her  

 

 

[Vermillion]

Bondi, Rubio, Vaught, And Duffy hearings today.

 

I'll only be following Bondi for the likely fireworks.