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[Komet]

12 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

You kinda ate here, but tbh Democrats themselves are just not very inspiring politicians. 

 

Trump… is certainly inspirational to some! Clinton/Biden/Harris types simply don't bring that same level of enthusiasm. They read as typical politicians giving word salad, so people don't take the time to delve any deeper to what their policy is saying. 

 

I do think an important takeaway here though is that we should NOT be trying to model Trump 1:1. His anti-establishment rhetoric is the ONLY thing we should be taking from him, but everything else can be left behind. I think a lot of people are getting mixed up in thinking that Democrats should become crooks and liars like Trump, but the reality is people already see them as crooks and liars (they're not entirely wrong ) so that's not really the lesson here. They actually need to remind people that they actually do care about them, while Republicans (and some establishment Dems) are willing to sell their souls for one potato chip. 

This all comes back to messaging tbh. Along with the right person ala Obomba

 

Also to my earlier point, notice how only dems get 'coastal elite' thrown at them constantly, meanwhile the most visible repubes are an east coast milionare and a west coast techno-oligarch and it's silence on that front 

Edited November 8 by Komet

[Wicked]

A good portion of my coworkers that voiced who they voted for voted for Claudia de la Cruz. Since it appears none of you have ever spoken to a BCW in your actual life there's a #threadexclusive

 

Damn, wonder why they voted for the socialist instead of Kamala Harris. Gotta be cause they ain't Google Trumps policies

[Onyxmage]

7 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

Ddd okay sis, but I am here in the US thinking the same thing as Ms. Groove. 

 

We both worked very hard for our college degrees, but we gotta live with these people and constantly spitting in their face isn't working. My family basically all voted for Trump (except the 4 of us with degrees funny enough) but they're all genuinely hardworking and kind people. I know people hate hearing it, but they aren't monsters even though they're told they are. That talk doesn't work anymore. They're mostly blue collar workers, the ones you're poking at now.

 

Literally like Michelle Obama said: when they go low, we go high. Very annoying I know, but someone's gotta listen. If Trump really does **** us all, and all people can say is "Ha! Told you so, nah nah nah 😝" then we should all just pack it up and die now lol. We can't just say these people are dumb and hopeless, that's the talk that got us here in the first place. 

Aligning with a racist, xenophobic, misogynist, rapist because you pretend that you cant afford eggs is honestly the most ignorant thing anyone can do and those people will continue to be called out every day. They are not the victims here and we will suffer because of their stupid decisions. 

[Jay07]

12 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

Ddd okay sis, but I am here in the US thinking the same thing as Ms. Groove. 

 

We both worked very hard for our college degrees, but we gotta live with these people and constantly spitting in their face isn't working. My family basically all voted for Trump (except the 4 of us with degrees funny enough) but they're all genuinely hardworking and kind people. I know people hate hearing it, but they aren't monsters even though they're told they are. That talk doesn't work anymore. They're mostly blue collar workers, the ones you're poking at now.

 

Literally like Michelle Obama said: when they go low, we go high. Very annoying I know, but someone's gotta listen. If Trump really does **** us all, and all people can say is "Ha! Told you so, nah nah nah 😝" then we should all just pack it up and die now lol. We can't just say these people are dumb and hopeless, that's the talk that got us here in the first place. 

Okay you're right and I regret posting that. But you don't understand. This is personal for me. Like I have actual stakes. This is not theoretical or some political exercise. My life could be impacted by this very negatively. And someone said something about status. Status? I can barely afford my medications. That's laughable.

 

Anyway, I apologize if I offended anyone. I'm sorry but again, this is very personal to me. I will disengage now because I'm getting emotional. I always enjoy reading you @Relampago. I'm sorry.

Edited November 8 by Jay07

[Gesamtkunstwerk]

1 minute ago, Virgos Groove said:

How did Dems get a reputation of being the party of smug coastal elites? A mystery, truly.

 

It's crazy. I've went to a few schools with a large hippie demographic, who were very politically conscious and vocal.

 

A large chunk of the super vocal hippies came families with decent money and parents with a "higher" education. I'm not saying that they had no struggles in their lives, were bad people, or were wealthy, but despite being very leftist, they were incredibly judgmental and snobbish. They were mainly focused on identity politics, and it honestly sometimes came off as white people patting each other on the back for being progressive  Ironically, the only African girl at one of the schools got bullied.

 

Idk how that dynamic came to be, if some of them feel guilt for being white and well off, so they had to compensate with being ultra progressive, but they obviously didn't relate to people with less than them.

[Onyxmage]

19 minutes ago, Wicked said:

This is why y'all keep getting called out of touch.

 

Who TF talks like this lmfao. Y'all don't be in community with these people AT ALL and start generalizing and rubbing your status in their faces.

 

 

 

 

 

And Trump is? He was literally born rich and failed his way upward by taking advantage of poor hardworking people.   My god its like we are in an alternate universe where people think this conman is some kind of every day average American.

[Wicked]

7 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

And Trump is? 

 

Bro why do y'all always do this at the slightest dem criticism. It's getting tired. 

 

I'm in this thread, I'm literally talking to all these posters who have never interacted with the groups of people they're trying to demonize. I'm sorry you don't like to hear the truth unless I add "and Trump" at the end of my posts.

[Relampago.]

14 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Aligning with a racist, xenophobic, misogynist, rapist because you pretend that you cant afford eggs is honestly the most ignorant thing anyone can do and those people will continue to be called out every day. They are not the victims here and we will suffer because of their stupid decisions. 

Oh we're all gonna suffer sis. No one is getting cheaper eggs! 

 

I hate to tell you but people just don't see that first sentence the way you do. They also don't see themselves as victims like we do, they're just tired of being crucified for wanting cheaper eggs.

 

Do I agree with that? No, I voted for Harris lol. But if you don't listen to their grievances but expect them to listen to yours, how is that fair? 
 

Let's take same-sex marriage for example. WE know that this can be overturned, and that would really suck! But average Joe sees it as an issue that's already been resolved since 2015 so he's not gonna withhold his vote from Trump for us if it means he can feed his family a bit easier. 

 

Kind of sh*tty but you gotta meet people where they're at. And you can point fingers at them, but they're going to vote how they do, and I'd rather try to bring them back then tell them to get lost. Just seems like the smarter idea in the long run.

[Wonderland]

Imagine if Trump's 7th bankruptcy is America itself dddd

 

[Relampago.]

18 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Okay you're right and I regret posting that. But you don't understand. This is personal for me. Like I have actual stakes. This is not theoretical or some political exercise. My life could be impacted by this very negatively. And someone said something about status. Status? I can barely afford my medications. That's laughable.

 

Anyway, I apologize if I offended anyone. I'm sorry but again, this is very personal to me. I will disengage now because I'm getting emotional. I always enjoy reading you @Relampago. I'm sorry.

No, I hear you sis. I'm sorry if my posts seem dismissive or callous, because I do understand that there's a lot of fear, doom and terror going on with people right now. 

 

I just want people to understand that this is kinda the intentions of The Elite. It's really annoying that we have to hold hands and sing kumbayah with the people who foolishly voted to basically drive us off a cliff, but we are a part of this society with them. The Elite get to pit us little guys against one another constantly while we all lose and they continue to win. 

 

I don't know if people will ever actually come together for something better, but I do know we probably shouldn't keep trying to find those divisions and should embrace the fact that a lot of people didn't actually vote to see people die and suffer, they genuinely want a better future for themselves. Even if the actions to get there are dumb as sh*t, I have found it oddly comforting that people aren't as evil as we're being told they are. They're just.. kinda dumb and shortsighted, but in a lot of ways, us Dems/left wing people have been too. 
 

But don't feel bad about your posts either, you're allowed to express grief and I didn't take anything you said offensively at all. I'm sending good vibes your way sis, we've got this.  

[Jay07]

5 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

No, I hear you sis. I'm sorry if my posts seem dismissive or callous, because I do understand that there's a lot of fear, doom and terror going on with people right now. 

 

I just want people to understand that this is kinda the intentions of The Elite. It's really annoying that we have to hold hands and sing kumbayah with the people who foolishly voted to basically drive us off a cliff, but we are a part of this society with them. The Elite get to pit us little guys against one another constantly while we all lose and they continue to win. 

 

I don't know if people will ever actually come together for something better, but I do know we probably shouldn't keep trying to find those divisions and should embrace the fact that a lot of people didn't actually vote to see people die and suffer, they genuinely want a better future for themselves. Even if the actions to get there are dumb as sh*t, I have found it oddly comforting that people aren't as evil as we're being told they are. They're just.. kinda dumb and shortsighted, but in a lot of ways, us Dems/left wing people have been too. 
 

But don't feel bad about your posts either, you're allowed to express grief and I didn't take anything you said offensively at all. I'm sending good vibes your way sis, we've got this.  

Thank you. I've been feeling really scared and alone after this result in ways I haven't before. Maybe because now I'm in the real world without a safety net. Anyway, I will take a break and try to process what you said. Thank you.

[Chemist]

[BOOMBAYAH]

28 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Aligning with a racist, xenophobic, misogynist, rapist because you pretend that you cant afford eggs is honestly the most ignorant thing anyone can do and those people will continue to be called out every day. They are not the victims here and we will suffer because of their stupid decisions. 

"The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the black man's friend and benefactor; and by winning the friendship, allegiance, and support of the black man, the white liberal is able to use the black man as a pawn or tool in this political "football game" that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white conservatives."

 

People do not trust the Democratic Party. You cannot run a campaign on "saving democracy" while forcing an establishment puppet into what is supposed to be a democratically elected role. You cannot run a campaign on morality and decency while funding the destruction of an entire civilisation abroad (with no clear indication of stopping). You cannot claim to challenge the status quo while standing by the current administration and having the Obamas and Clintons campaign on your behalf. You cannot push a platform of working-class values while parading wealthy celebrities around who will never experience the hardships faced by the majority of your electorate. You cannot berate your electorate by implying that if they don't vote for you, they are inherently evil, ignorant, or bigoted, and still expect them to fall in line. 
 

Trump is bad—ten times worse than any Democrat—but in a two-party system, once trust erodes in one of the parties, it's no surprise when people look to the other side for answers. The Democrats knew what was at stake and could have prevented this reality from unfolding, but they continued to play the oligarchic, neoliberal role.

[superglowy]

The fact that Cardi B will only have released albums during a Trump era…..probably.

 

[superglowy]

16 minutes ago, Chemist said:

LEAVE THAT HIPPO ALOOOOONE! 

[Яeo.]

To me, it's much simpler than what you're describing, and it really comes down to two main points:

 

1. Democrats need a message that resonates across diverse demographics and hits home for everyone. Republicans, however, tend to focus on a common theme that's easier to communicate—namely, that they're better for the economy. For most people, it felt like the impact of the Trump administration on their day-to-day lives wasn't bad enough to outweigh the promise of a "stronger" economy, so they were willing to accept it.

 

2. Privilege. Many people today, especially Gen Z, grew up in relatively stable times and may not have a personal connection to events like 9/11—it's history to them. While they may not be wealthy, the average American has food on the table and manages to get by. They haven't had to experience wars or direct threats to their rights, so the Democrats' social messaging doesn't resonate deeply. Instead, the economic state of the country—and how it affects their personal finances—feels like their primary struggle.

[Wicked]

 

[waylon4ever]

Susan Sumerall Wiles makes history and shatters the glass ceiling by being named the first-ever Chief of Staff of the White House! 

[Bloodflowers.]

7 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Bernie's rally with AOC after the heart attack was it for me. It really started to wane after Warren's sexist smear, followed by when Bernie blew out Biden in Nevada and suddenly the entire media rallied together to report on Bernie as a Russian asset, called his supporters "brown shirts" and so on.

 

7 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

Oh the aftermath of all that was definitely sickening. From that point until the first primaries and caucuses brought me straight into blackpilled "it's all a ******* pointless lie" territory - and some of those views on politics, to be entirely transparent, stick with me today. My personal darkest day, recorded I'm sure in our own 2020 election thread somewhere, was the 2020 Iowa caucus Pete/Shadow, Inc. disaster. That was when I knew with absolute certainty that the party was going to do everything it could to crush the Sanders candidacy faster and harder the second time around, and sure as **** it did so.

 

7 hours ago, Bloo said:

What followed South Carolina was the day I gave up on the party and I developed a cynicism I can't let go of. The following Super Tuesday was such a depressing ass day for me. I was honestly more upset then than I was this recent electoral outcome. I truly think the consolidation around Biden, the man that could barely speak and was widely hated, to prevent Bernie from being the nominee really snapped me out of whatever confidence I had with the party. It became clear the "protectors of Democracy" truly do not care about Democracy in any meaningful capacity.

 

Let's also not forget superdelegates in 2016 crushing Bernie's people votes. The media's propaganda against Bernie. I am lowkey starting to believe the theory of Democratic Party being CIAagents party.

 

 

[CandyCoatedClouds]

All I know is that next time, the candidate needs to win the God damn primary fairly and not be seated in that position by the democratic party. All the Republicans kept mentioning that the VP was thrust upon us and not actually voted for by the people. This can't happen for a third time in a row. 

[jakeisphat]

Do we think Trump is serving his full term? He surely seems to have more stamina than Biden did at 78… but that Big Mac diet and Normani Dopamine rocket built body has me thinking J.D. might be stepping in post midterms. 
 

[jakeisphat]

4 minutes ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

All I know is that next time, the candidate needs to win the God damn primary fairly and not be seated in that position by the democratic party.

Well, yes. And I hope one of the progressive candidates comes swinging out the gate with haymakers toward Shapiro for covering up a murder - and Pete for being unqualified and the biggest Wall Street industry plant we've ever seen. Send those mfs packing early during the first few debates. 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

1 hour ago, Wonderland said:

Imagine if Trump's 7th bankruptcy is America itself dddd

 

one time pls one time pls

 

[Marianah Adkins]

3 hours ago, midnightdawn said:

One thing I don't understand is why her polling numbers basically collapsed overnight. If you go back and look at the averages she was well ahead nationally until a few weeks after the debate and then she suddenly tanked and Trump jumped.

Its her interview in The View when she said she will not change a thing from Biden. That gave a lifeline to Trump who was tanking after the debate. Her momentum stopped and she started doing all of the bullshit errors like parading the Cheneys in an attempt to regain momentum, only for her numbers to tank completely.

 

That View Interview imo is the real October Surprise of the election 

 

[Marianah Adkins]

3 hours ago, midnightdawn said:

One thing I don't understand is why her polling numbers basically collapsed overnight. If you go back and look at the averages she was well ahead nationally until a few weeks after the debate and then she suddenly tanked and Trump jumped.

Its her interview in The View when she said she will not change a thing from Biden. That gave a lifeline to Trump who was tanking after the debate. Her momentum stopped and she started doing all of the bullshit errors like parading the Cheneys in an attempt to regain momentum, only for her numbers to tank completely.

 

That View Interview imo is the real October Surprise of the election