Slamless Posted Thursday at 01:10 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:10 AM i dont want to start a new thread but eric adams indicted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sannie Posted Thursday at 01:11 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:11 AM 1 hour ago, shelven said: This might be an unpopular take in this thread, but things like this are why I never bought into the idea that Harris's stance on Israel/Palestine would be some death knell for her in Michigan. Muslim voters aren't a monolith. Many of them won't view Israel/Palestine as a top issue for them, and many others (like the leaders of this group) will disagree with her stance but ultimately believe in a harm reduction approach to voting and vote for her anyways because they want to stop Trump who will be worse on this issue. And then there's the people, like in every demographic, who simply don't vote anyways and won't be sitting out because of this particular issue. So when we take out the regular non-voters, the voters who don't care about this issue, and the voters who plan to vote for her out of harm reduction, we're left with... maybe a quarter of the eligible Muslim voting population of Michigan who will specifically refrain from voting for Harris because of Israel/Palestine? That's roughly 45K voters in a state Biden won by 155K in 2020. Yes, there's a universe where Harris underperforms Biden's 2020 numbers by enough where that 45K ends up being bigger than her margin of loss to Trump, but I'd be surprised if that happens. I was beginning to buy the narrative until the big, bad, promised protests at the DNC were a big ol' bust. It just showed that most of what we're hearing about how Muslims feel online are coming from, surprise, non-Muslims. 54 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I'd rather take my chances on Harris making small progress in a 1 term than the destruction Trump would do with a 1 term any day of the week. this race isnt just about what policy proposal the candidates can get done with the help of congress. It's also about a lot the other stuff they can do themselves just being the President. And In all of those instances we are better off having Harris in charge. Like, yeah, Kamala will be the status quo because that's what we need right now. Until MAGA is beaten to a bloody pulp, we gotta play it safe. Leftists want to burn the country down because they think it will magically make everything better. 44 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Great answer. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightdawn Posted Thursday at 01:12 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:12 AM Watching Hillary interviews from 2016 and she's basically the only candidate from the last three elections who could do a decent job of interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelven Posted Thursday at 01:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:14 AM On mobile but pretend that shady GIF of Kamala waving goodbye is here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i spit on haters Posted Thursday at 01:18 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:18 AM 5 minutes ago, midnightdawn said: Watching Hillary interviews from 2016 Why are you torturing yourself like this ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted Thursday at 01:25 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:25 AM So after this is revealed as a panned flop in November, what will the GOP do to grow their coalition since they've ran all women away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted Thursday at 01:26 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:26 AM 11 minutes ago, shelven said: On mobile but pretend that shady GIF of Kamala waving goodbye is here. New York Democratic party is truly in the pits 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman4life Posted Thursday at 01:27 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:27 AM (edited) Something about Trump this time around does feel a bit unserious. I'm starting to believe he doesn't really wanna be bothered with running the country. He really just wanted to stay outta prison and get revenge on Biden beating him but after the SC decision and Biden dropping out he just wants to continue his grift. Like he doesn't seem interested in running against Kamala at all and is just using generic attacks he would use on any Democrat. Like don't get me wrong he's still a danger if he does win but he doesn't seem as invested as he was with Hillary and Biden, it seemed more personal with them. I know he's older now but still... Edited Thursday at 01:28 AM by dman4life 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getBusy Posted Thursday at 01:30 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:30 AM (edited) 19 minutes ago, Slamless said: i dont want to start a new thread but eric adams indicted JUST CAME HERE TO POST LITERALLY THE SAME MESSAGE LOL Rot in hell you useless rat Edited Thursday at 01:30 AM by getBusy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted Thursday at 01:32 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:32 AM Guess we're going to get that 20 point NY swing to the right, Siena keeps predicting with a tied popular vote now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nights Posted Thursday at 01:35 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:35 AM 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: My complaints are that she and her party basically stand for nothing anymore. So to gain voters, they've opted to chase the Republicans to the right so they can campaign as "conservative, but not crazy" This leaves people like me politically homeless. It's not a bridge too far for liberals who viewed the candidacies of Obama and Clinton as groundbreaking and progressive, and most won't even notice. But it does mean that the next Democrat who runs for president will probably be to the right of her. Her campaign now sets the tone for decades to come. Got it. My question for you is this: Do you think her running a more progressive platform, say to the left of Obama, would leave her with a greater chance of being elected than her current platform? And this is a genuine, non-passive-aggressive question that I want your take on because I'm on the fence on how I feel about it. I'm asking because from my perspective it seems many progressive policies are very popular among Americans in isolation but as soon as an American politician starts actually running on these policies, they become easy picking for opposition entities who rile up some weird and ignorant fear among the public by equating those same progressive policies to communism, socialism and un-Americanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderland Posted Thursday at 01:37 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:37 AM 25 minutes ago, Slamless said: i dont want to start a new thread but eric adams indicted The way New York is one of the most corrupt states And New Jersey ain't much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted Thursday at 01:38 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:38 AM Omg Eric Adams. Finally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderland Posted Thursday at 01:39 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:39 AM 12 minutes ago, Armani? said: New York Democratic party is truly in the pits Honestly between this mess and Hochul at the top of the ticket, I think the governorship could go Republican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted Thursday at 01:39 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:39 AM 1 minute ago, Nights said: Got it. My question for you is this: Do you think her running a more progressive platform, say to the left of Obama, would leave her with a greater chance of being elected than her current platform? And this is a genuine, non-passive-aggressive question that I want your take on because I'm on the fence on how I feel about it. I'm asking because from my perspective it seems many progressive policies are very popular among Americans in isolation but as soon as an American politician starts actually running on these policies, they become easy picking for opposition entities who rile up some weird and ignorant fear among the public by equating those same progressive policies to communism, socialism and un-Americanism. Even just running as a standard liberal like Obama or Hillary wouldn't be as much of an affront as the current state of play. I'm not making unreasonable demands or flying too close to the sun here. But we've been lurching to the right ever since Biden got nominated in 2020, and that's where the momentum is heading. A Joe Manchin and Liz Cheney ticket in the 2030s at our current pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderland Posted Thursday at 01:43 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:43 AM In other news, Jimmy Carter will be the first US President to reach 100 years of age next TUESDAY (October 1st) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted Thursday at 01:44 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:44 AM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted Thursday at 01:47 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:47 AM I can't see the word "indicted" without hearing Trump's voice in my head the way he says it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted Thursday at 01:49 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:49 AM 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted Thursday at 01:51 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:51 AM 8 minutes ago, Wonderland said: In other news, Jimmy Carter will be the first US President to reach 100 years of age next TUESDAY (October 1st) Don't u dare jinx it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted Thursday at 01:53 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:53 AM So when is someone gonna ask trump if he still supports Mark Robinson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamless Posted Thursday at 01:55 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:55 AM 12 minutes ago, Wonderland said: In other news, Jimmy Carter will be the first US President to reach 100 years of age next TUESDAY (October 1st) girl if you dont delete this 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted Thursday at 01:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:59 AM 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted Thursday at 02:03 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:03 AM (edited) 34 minutes ago, Armani? said: The Morning Joe crew were gassing him up too. But tbh, Trump shows you can still be a front runner for president even as an indicted criminal. And that's basically what Adams always was, a Blue Trump. Edited Thursday at 02:34 AM by ClashAndBurn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightdawn Posted Thursday at 02:11 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:11 AM 11 minutes ago, Armani? said: Nate should stick to poll watching. His political analysis is always messy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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