Lil Mistee Posted September 9 Posted September 9 The essays… can one of yall go to college for me and get me my masters ty 2
karron0624 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 19 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said: The essays… can one of yall go to college for me and get me my masters ty I believe we have two lawyers, one nurse, one doctor, and one phd student who consistently visit this thread. And thats people who have disclosed their jobs. A lot of us also were in politics, so you would actually be well represented if we all did a master program for you 🤣🤣. 2
Blade Posted September 9 Posted September 9 3 hours ago, Armani? said: Has this grifter popped up in anyone's fyp page yet? She keeps trying to get in the Black Tik Tok algorithm the likes...
CaptainMusic Posted September 9 Posted September 9 9 hours ago, Communion said: This is just going to go in circles because I think some of you don't really give thought to the idea that you're operating at a base level of some level of hypocrisy by endorsing Dems at all during their giant shift towards to the right. It's hard to believe anyone vocally championing Kamala Harris is concerned with the normalizing of Republicans. I agree with you on many things but In all the years I've been on ATRL I swear I've never seen you once admit that you or someone you support is in the wrong. It really shouldn't be that hard. - Anyway, good that Kamala finally has a policy page, less ammo for the debate. 5
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 9 Author ATRL Moderator Posted September 9 It's such a shame Jill Stein is an awful human being and has made a mockery out of not only her party but third party in general in the US. There should absolutely be space in the US for multiple parties beyond the two we have, and a lot of the Green Party's main policies would work beautifully for a leftist party in this country, however it will never come from the current Green Party until they switch leadership and take their role seriously. Even Libertarians have been more successful, getting a stray candidate here and there in state legislature. 5
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted September 9 ATRL Moderator Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Lil Mistee said: The essays… can one of yall go to college for me and get me my masters ty No more going to school for me babe. Three degrees is enough. Wishing you the best though. — The discussions around Jill Stein seem so random, for me. I think there are very legitimate criticisms to be made of the Green Party and their seasonal involvement in elections. I do think it is fine to levy criticisms towards them for, effectively, running as spoilers rather than running continued campaigns outside of presidential cycles in hopes of building an actual leftist party. There should be more visible efforts made to get ranked choice voting throughout the country so the Green Party and other non-major parties have a fighting chance and voters feel free to consider other options without having to revert to understandable cynicism. However, I don't quite get why AOC made such a big splash around this. The only explanation to me is that there is internal polling that the Dems are worried about with Kamala not shoring up enough of the left like they expected. But, this isn't an issue with Jill Stein. Sure, leftists might be wanting to vote for her in retaliation. But that's only because Kamala made the choice to not run on leftist policy and has chosen to stick to the failed Biden policy platform. The most naked example I've seen of just how shallow and unthoughtful Kamala's policy pitch has been is here: It's a shame. But it should concern anyone who wants Kamala to win (I would count myself in that boat, because I really hate Trump) that she's pivoting to the right on immigration, refusing to run on popular healthcare ideas besides protecting Obamacare, and doubling down on defending Israel's right to commit a genocide. 4 1
Communion Posted September 9 Posted September 9 (edited) 27 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: I agree with you on many things but In all the years I've been on ATRL I swear I've never seen you once admit that you or someone you support is in the wrong. I need you to understand that it becomes hard to convince someone they're in the wrong while at the same time supporting a politician guilty of this: Myself and others have had no issue criticizing former idolized figures on the left like Sanders for being in the wrong on things like Israel. For feeling like as though what we thought to be true ended up wrong. I don't know how else to say it but it just reads like people who don't fundamentally have an ideology (this isn't inherently a bad thing) and thus are more buoyed by politicians as personalities than a commitment to ideology. If I am confronted by a reality where a stance is more left wing than the one I have, I move my position leftward and take on that stance. Leftists constantly are self-critical and self-evaluating their stances. You just don't seem to agree with that myself or other leftists' self-evaluations and criticisms come out as "oh wow, I was wrong to have trust in AOC" or "Bernie Sanders isn't who I thought he was" or "I regret thinking voting could make a difference, voting doesn't actually work". The concern reads as not about leftists being stagnant and stuck in their views but an annoyance at the direction in which leftists move. For example, I know now I was 100% wrong when voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I feel dumb having done it and regret casting a vote for her. It was the wrong thing to do and I don't believe in the same claims that liberalism can work in tandem with progressivism that I did in 2016. Edited September 9 by Communion 1
Armani? Posted September 9 Posted September 9 36 minutes ago, Blade said: the likes... It's mostly Maga judging from the comments
Sannie Posted September 9 Posted September 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, Armani? said: Has this grifter popped up in anyone's fyp page yet? She keeps trying to get in the Black Tik Tok algorithm I've only seen people dragging her for being wrong and pointing out that Kamala has never made her race or gender a central point of her campaign. The people who have... Republicans, so it's clear where this is coming from. 1 hour ago, Blade said: the likes... Check the comments. Mostly white people agreeing lol. 38 minutes ago, Bloo said: The most naked example I've seen of just how shallow and unthoughtful Kamala's policy pitch has been is here: It's a shame. But it should concern anyone who wants Kamala to win (I would count myself in that boat, because I really hate Trump) that she's pivoting to the right on immigration, refusing to run on popular healthcare ideas besides protecting Obamacare, and doubling down on defending Israel's right to commit a genocide. As a developer myself, copy and pasting code is quite normal and a bedrock of development lol. Definitely an oversight, but in no way indicative of "laziness". Nobody is writing new code for a website like this; they're all created using pre-fabricated templates. Edit: It's been fixed lol. Edited September 9 by Sannie 2
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted September 9 ATRL Moderator Posted September 9 5 minutes ago, Sannie said: As a developer myself, copy and pasting code is quite normal and a bedrock of development lol. Definitely an oversight, but in no way indicative of "laziness". Nobody is writing new code for a website like this; they're all created using pre-fabricated templates. As a computer scientist, I'm well aware copying and pasting boilerplate code is normal. However, there should be enough oversight to scrub basic things like this. And, even then, the fact that they're just simply copying and pasting crucial engagement text on policy from the Bidne campaign is a pretty symbolic representation of how little they've thought of how to differentiate themselves from Biden to make Kamala feel like a fresh candidate rather than a regurgitation of an administration people already hated. 1
Sannie Posted September 9 Posted September 9 8 minutes ago, dabunique said: A 4-point swing towards Kamala. In this essay, I will explain how this spells doom for the Harris campaign... 5
Sannie Posted September 9 Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, Bloo said: As a computer scientist, I'm well aware copying and pasting boilerplate code is normal. However, there should be enough oversight to scrub basic things like this. And, even then, the fact that they're just simply copying and pasting crucial engagement text on policy from the Bidne campaign is a pretty symbolic representation of how little they've thought of how to differentiate themselves from Biden to make Kamala feel like a fresh candidate rather than a regurgitation of an administration people already hated. Like, no, I'm sorry, it was just the meta data they forgot to update. "...representation of how little they've thought of how to differentiate themselves from Biden" is a reach. This has nothing to do with policy or where she stands, just some underpaid web dev forgetting to do a quick QA test with the website link before pressing "publish" on the website. That's it. 1
hausofdave Posted September 9 Posted September 9 EWTN News/Real Clear Opinion poll of Catholic voters: 🟦Harris - 50% (+7) 🟥Trump - 43% ⬜Undecided - 6% 1000 LV, MoE +/-3%, 8/28-8/30 Catholic voters in previous elections: 2020: Biden +5 🔵 2016: Trump +7🔴 2012: Obama +2🔵 2008: Obama +9🔵 2004: Bush +5🔴 2
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted September 9 ATRL Moderator Posted September 9 7 minutes ago, Sannie said: Like, no, I'm sorry, it was just the meta data they forgot to update. "...representation of how little they've thought of how to differentiate themselves from Biden" is a reach. This has nothing to do with policy or where she stands, just some underpaid web dev forgetting to do a quick QA test with the website link before pressing "publish" on the website. That's it. Do you not understand the word "symbolic"? I never said this example is proof she's no different than Biden. I said it's a symbolic example of how little thought has been put into her policies. The actual problem is that she has run so little on policy, that she has chosen to run a more vibes-based campaign and isn't championing popular policy, etc. The lack of policy substance is something that is being noted by journalists. I'm not saying that one text ad is the sole example of this larger issue. It's just a naked, symbolic representation of a much larger problem. 1 1
FameFatale Posted September 9 Posted September 9 So is this their new thing to start the week off? 1 1
Sannie Posted September 9 Posted September 9 45 minutes ago, FameFatale said: So is this their new thing to start the week off? Ah, the age-old "brown people eat cats and dogs" trick. I'm sure it'll go over well. 27 minutes ago, Blade said: this is lowkey how I feel too WI has always been my concern, but it's polling so much better so I'm like Either way, if she wins one, she'll win the other. 2
shelven Posted September 9 Posted September 9 36 minutes ago, Blade said: this is lowkey how I feel too Wisconsin had by far the worst polling error of any swing state in 2020 (I'm sure ABC's polling team still has night terrors remembering that Biden +17 poll they put out ). Definitely wouldn't be surprising to see her do better in PA notwithstanding her polling average being better in WI.
spree Posted September 9 Posted September 9 tomorrow's debate will be the most important debate of all time. 3 2
Blade Posted September 9 Posted September 9 If Kamala wins, I think she'll have her Lose By Less strategy in rural parts of swing states to thank. This is totally ~vibes~ based but I've seen multiple anecdotes about people in rural areas seeing less enthusiasm for Trump than 2020. If there's even a slightly less rural turn out in 2024 combined with Kamala making small inroads with rural voters that could be the decider. 3
on the line Posted September 9 Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, spree said: tomorrow's debate will be the most important debate of all time. Nah. We had an assassination attempt on one of the candidates by someone in their own parry, and it's nearly forgotten today. The political news cycle works so fast now. Today's catastrophe is tomorrow's forgotten joke. 6
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