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[Kassi]

Communion's posts on this topic have stopped making sense. They're clearly out of their depth. So there's no use in responding to the illogic being used to try and save face.

 

I'm mostly posting this, in the simplest possible terms to understand, for other people who are interested in facts:

 

Around May/June 2020, people had artificial money to spend so demand went up.

 

 

That's it, that's the story. 

 

If you care to go further: During the pandemic, the money supply increased due to large government expenditures, and real output decreased due to shutdowns, so it follows that inflation must increase in response. 

 

Manchin prevented more MONEY SUPPLY by blocking more LARGE GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES, while the supply chains are still recovering.

 

Ukraine/Russia just added fuel (literally) to the fire.

[Vermillion]

 

[Vermillion]

 

[Communion]

Because Kassi wants to continue to troll with personal insults instead of arguments, I'll have to just keep pointing out the reality they're refusing to address.

 

Youre not going to squirm your way out of this with the usual trolling, Kassi. I'm sorry. Someone has to hold you accountable for constantly lying and posting deliberate misinformation in here. 

 

The only one out of their depth is the person who has to resort to personal insults to hide that they don't know what they're talking about. Do you honestly think anyone reading is gonna see you calling people "genocide supporters" for recognizing *checks notes* that gas prices shot up starting in March 2022 and think you're operating in good faith?

 

Why are you lying to everyone in this thread and posting pseudoeconomics that only trust fund babies believe in? It is literally modern accepted economic thought that you spend your way out of a recession via productive spending like infrastructure that leads to economic growth. This is literally conventional wisdom. So for you to sit here and lie to people and lash out at all of us with common sense for realizing, no, giving kids school free lunches is not why there has been inflation and the billions in stocks buybacks is actually the main driving factor, why are you invested in lying? Should your personal biases be a looked into? Why are you trying to convince us spending money on the rich is good and poor bad? Did you get a PPP loan you're refusing to be transparent about? Of course no one would have these questions if you didn't approach this topic like a bull in a China shop and take the approach to claim people who recognize not letting kids or senior citizens starve is a moral imperative are somehow "wanting Russia to kill all Ukrainians" (???????). The level of crankery is far too much and you simply need to be held accountable for once. 

 

1 hour ago, Communion said:

 

It's like arguing with a troglodyte. 

 

Again, you're making distinctions without differences. We already established that inflation was on the rise during the pandemic because of how it disrupted the supply chain, not the new funding. One simply has to look at the issue in Chinese ports to understand this. 

 

You've essentially gone "hmm well if that explains Feb to now, how does that explain this before???"

 

It explains it in the very same. We're literally still in a pandemic. 

 

You're literally trying to suggest sanctions on Russian oil don't impact the price of gas because inflation *not related to energy* was occurring *in completely different sectors* before the price of gas shot up. 

 

Look at the retail price of gas was in December 2021, the time of that article. 

 

 

I genuinely wish bad things to happen to you the more you transition for naive liberal to active far-right disruptive troll.  It's tiring. Stop wasting our time with the lying and trolling. 

 

Claiming people are "genocide supporters" because they know how to read a line graph that shows the direct correlation between the price of gas and disrupting the global supply of oil for a war. Christ. 

[Kassi]

Hmm. Maybe I can make it even simpler than a graph: Mo Money [Supply], Mo [Inflation] Problems

 

That's pretty much all I have to say on this topic. 

[ClashAndBurn]

Pelosi intentionally going out of her way to provoke avoidable conflict makes her unequivocally a truly evil person.

Edited August 2, 2022 by ClashAndBurn

[rihannabiggestfan]

Notice how Bernie's net approval is LIGHT-YEARS better than Biden's, Pelosi's, Hillary's, and Kamala's

 

 

and Bernie is the only one of those 5 who isn't viewed disfavorably by the majority of America

[Mean Trees]

1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Pelosi intentionally going out of her way to provoke avoidable conflict makes her unequivocally a truly evil person.

I just saw this on twitter. What an absolutely disastrous person. She has absolutely no care for anything but her stock portfolio. I wonder if she bought any stock in any companies that that will receive the $90 million that it cost for this stunt.

[Kassi]

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Same-sex marriage in Taiwan became legal on 24 May 2019, making Taiwan the first country in Asia to legalize same-sex marriage.

Pelosi working hard to protect gay rights, prevent global economic catastrophe, and stand up against authoritarianism all by affirming American support for Taiwan. 

 

No but that's really mother! 

[GhostBox]

11 minutes ago, Kassi said:

Pelosi working hard to protect gay rights, prevent global economic catastrophe, and stand up against authoritarianism all by affirming American support for Taiwan. 

 

No but that's really mother! 

 ???????? Of course the ones you’d expect are trashing her ??

[ClashAndBurn]

48 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

I just saw this on twitter. What an absolutely disastrous person. She has absolutely no care for anything but her stock portfolio. I wonder if she bought any stock in any companies that that will receive the $90 million that it cost for this stunt.

    Of course the ones you'd expect are defending her   

 

Like... even Biden and the Pentagon have said that her trip is foolish and she is jeopardizing everything needlessly. You'd think they'd show a little humility when EVEN THE NEOLIBERAL ADMINISTRATION is saying it's a bad idea, but being a dumbass girlboss is more important than diplomacy and avoiding provocation of nuclear war to Kassi and Ghost Box, apparently  

[GhostBox]

If she didn’t go you would trash her for being weak. ?

 

 

again she made  the right call no matter who was saying it was dangerous ????????????

Edited August 2, 2022 by GhostBox

[ClashAndBurn]

4 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

If she didn’t go you would trash her for being weak. ?

 

 

again she made  the right call no matter who was saying it was dangerous ????????????

I would trash her for even thinking about going to begin with, not for correctly walking back from a completely reckless decision.

 

Glad to know you want us all to be obliterated in nuclear war though!

[Mean Trees]

55 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

    Of course the ones you'd expect are defending her   

 

Like... even Biden and the Pentagon have said that her trip is foolish and she is jeopardizing everything needlessly. You'd think they'd show a little humility when EVEN THE NEOLIBERAL ADMINISTRATION is saying it's a bad idea, but being a dumbass girlboss is more important than diplomacy and avoiding provocation of nuclear war to Kassi and Ghost Box, apparently  

I've actually noticed that they're becoming even more unhinged recently. They're even going against their overlords (except Pelosi)  Their overlords are showing much more sense than they are. It's honestly bewildering.

 

And let's not even bring up the Arthur Laffer economic theory nonsense they've been spewing in this thread  I'm so glad one of them called me the most stupid person or whatever it said. I wouldn't want to be considered smart by it anyway. Smart is trying to provoke a new world war that would lead to mass death and devastation apparently.

[ClashAndBurn]

13 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

I've actually noticed that they're becoming even more unhinged recently. They're even going against their overlords (except Pelosi)  Their overlords are showing much more sense than they are. It's honestly bewildering.

 

And let's not even bring up the Arthur Laffer economic theory nonsense they've been spewing in this thread  I'm so glad one of them called me the most stupid person or whatever it said. I wouldn't want to be considered smart by it anyway. Smart is trying to provoke a new world war that would lead to mass death and devastation apparently.

NATO-stanning liberals clapping and cheering Pelosi for intentionally provoking China is just... really concerning. Yet there's no serious pushback from anyone with even a decent following. This is very much a bipartisan stance, and as we know, pretty much everything that happens in Washington with a bipartisan consensus is bound to be worse for us all.

[Mean Trees]

15 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

NATO-stanning liberals clapping and cheering Pelosi for intentionally provoking China is just... really concerning. Yet there's no serious pushback from anyone with even a decent following. This is very much a bipartisan stance, and as we know, pretty much everything that happens in Washington with a bipartisan consensus is bound to be worse for us all.

US foreign policy seems to be universally embraced now and that was not the case before. It is very scary.

[Communion]

 

Fake insurance for a fake country where tens of thousands of poor people die every year.

And then we have a *DEMOCRAT* president who said he'd veto universal healthcare.

Life is not worth living if this cycle of Democratic failure just keeps going on. 

[Mean Trees]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

Fake insurance for a fake country where tens of thousands of poor people die every year.

And then we have a *DEMOCRAT* president who said he'd veto universal healthcare.

Life is not worth living if this cycle of Democratic failure just keeps going on. 

Health Insurance is a scam. Considering at how much out of pocket costs have skyrocketed, it makes any sort of previous ''healthcare reform'' *cough cough* ACA rather irrelevant. 

[rihannabiggestfan]

If Libby, Montana and every other major country on earth can have health insurance that isn't a scam, then the entirety of America can as well.

 

Turns out Pelosi Bros are the most culty of all the neolibs  maybe because they're trying to balance it out since she's the most hated overall by the GP (panned so hard that even Hillary is acclaimed compared to her)

[ClashAndBurn]

56 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

US foreign policy seems to be universally embraced now and that was not the case before. It is very scary.

Bipartisan consensus on US foreign policy has always been pretty solid. It got shaken for a few years when it became obvious that Bush lied us into Iraq, and it ultimately became a pissing contest where the opposition party played political games to undermine the administration, even though deep down Republicans loved that we were invading Libya and overthrowing Ghaddafi, they wanted to make a show about it to harm the then-Secretary of State's chances of becoming president half a decade later. But also remember, Biden was Bush's biggest cheerleader in the Senate and enthusiastically whipped Democratic votes for both AUMFs. Pelosi also refused to impeach Bush for lying us into Iraq because she knew how complicitly and enthusiastically her party supported Bush's illegal war.

 

The only time there's ever any disagreement on FoPo is when there are obvious domestic issues that the President is trying to distract from, like when Clinton "wagged the dog" by dropping bombs in Sudan during the Lewinsky impeachment trial.

[Mean Trees]

2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Bipartisan consensus on US foreign policy has always been pretty solid. It got shaken for a few years when it became obvious that Bush lied us into Iraq, and it ultimately became a pissing contest where the opposition party played political games to undermine the administration, even though deep down Republicans loved that we were invading Libya and overthrowing Ghaddafi, they wanted to make a show about it to harm the then-Secretary of State's chances of becoming president half a decade later. But also remember, Biden was Bush's biggest cheerleader in the Senate and enthusiastically whipped Democratic votes for both AUMFs. Pelosi also refused to impeach Bush for lying us into Iraq because she knew how complicitly and enthusiastically her party supported Bush's illegal war.

 

The only time there's ever any disagreement on FoPo is when there are obvious domestic issues that the President is trying to distract from, like when Clinton "wagged the dog" by dropping bombs in Sudan during the Lewinsky impeachment trial.

I mean civil society opposition. In Washington, foreign policy is where the uniparty shines but literally there's no notable person outside that world who's really going out there and criticizing any of it and if they are they don't really get any mass following. In the Reaganite 80s, Madonna even came out and said in an interview that she supported the Sandinistas  The Iraq War saw some of the largest protests in history but there's really nothing now in blowback.

[rihannabiggestfan]

Hoes are mad

 

 

 

 

[ClashAndBurn]

3 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

I mean civil society opposition. In Washington, foreign policy is where the uniparty shines but literally there's no notable person outside that world who's really going out there and criticizing any of it and if they are they don't really get any mass following. In the Reaganite 80s, Madonna even came out and said in an interview that she supported the Sandinistas  The Iraq War saw some of the largest protests in history but there's really nothing now in blowback.

It helps that with The Iraq War, we were the obvious aggressors. Just the international community gave us very little pushback, so we saw frankly zero consequences even though what we did was literally what Russia is doing now.

 

Here, our position is more defensible. Ukraine has the right to choose its alliances, even those that Russia deems existential threat to itself, and Russia had zero legitimacy to invade its sovereign neighbor. The US's position to provide defensive support is not prone to drive protestors to the streets. The wisdom of the strategy, in the long term, is up for debate for what it means to regional and global stability, energy and food markets, etc. But from a moral standpoint, for now, supporting Ukraine defensively is sound.

 

When the GOP inevitably proceeds to politicizing the war and how it is inherently affecting inflation is when you might see society become unsettled.

 

Hollywood isn't going to speak out against the military industrial complex enriching itself to the tune of billions of dollars off of an indefinite number of Ukrainians being thrown into the meat grinder. They're inexorably linked in partnership with the Pentagon. Top Gun: Maverick being one of the biggest movies of the year when it is basically just a 2hr advertisement for the US military says it all, pretty much.

[GhostBox]

 

excellent news ????????

[Communion]

 

Paul Pelosi's $5M going down the drain.  

Rich people are fake. Imagine just throwing $5M away like it's nothing. 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Communion