fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Narima]

 

omg they're so likeable  

I was like how is the mv reaction 16 mins long but they watched it 3 times 

[zaso]

3 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

HYBE keeps pushing that narrative that yeonjun is popular in Korea now he really thinks he’s an It Boy. 

the mediaplay got to their heads. first it was seventeen saying they like to debut #1 on hot100 with their 2 streams and now these guys thinking they are it boys with an upcoming theater tour

 

everyone in that company thinking they are on bts level

[The Prophecy]

6 minutes ago, Narima said:

 

omg they're so likeable  

I was like how is the mv reaction 16 mins long but they watched it 3 times 

 

Love them

 

[sunmimi imfurst]

7 minutes ago, Cotton said:

I’d like to talk about how sick all of y’all are for switching on Chungha after Stay Tonight tanked. I’m going through her songs and y’all really need to pay respect to her

 

 

The album was good. The gays shouldn’t of let her sink 

[Narima]

Sakura 

 

[Jared]

29 minutes ago, Somi said:

 

RV this, RV that

 It’s always been clear that they’re no where near as big as BLACKPINK/TWICE. Even OMG more of an event than RV…

 



 

 

 

There was literally a whole discussion yesterday on Twice's Japanese success and BP is always discussed in here. You can sit down, eat your food and let us talk about RV for 5 seconds troll. 

[Jared]

1 hour ago, Gaia said:

 

 

Everytime a group has a hit =\= Repeak y’all

 

FMR is not a repeak. Where is the impact of that song  

Gorl we get that you hate the song, but it clearly was successful on the charts and was big internationally compared to their past releases. Go listen to Psycho and hush.

[Dialamba]

LSRF really have a good chemistry I thought it would be 6 visuals put in a group bug they seem close 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

28 minutes ago, zaso said:

 

the delusion

Their senior taught them well 

[Cotton]

 

7 minutes ago, Narima said:

Sakura 

 

Awwwwh.

 

I’ve warmed up to Fearless. It’s a cute song and I’m actually really loving the group. They’re great performers too. Blue Flame is also a SONG

[saucy]

 

 

 

[cloudbusting]

50 minutes ago, Ghiles said:

 

LMAO she’s too much 
 

20 minutes ago, Cotton said:

I’d like to talk about how sick all of y’all are for switching on Chungha after Stay Tonight tanked. I’m going through her songs and y’all really need to pay respect to her

 

 

Querencia Queens WILL have the last laugh #artnotcharts

[Shou7]

SCREAM i always thought the whole im fearless anagram thing was pretentious af but i just came across one of those be not afraid biblically accurate angel meme posts and i- with a heavy heart i have to admit its quite ingenious actually 

[Green Tea Is Green]

2 hours ago, Shou7 said:

@Decalcomanie @Green Tea Is Green

 

Generally my view is that:

-Long-term success of KR tracks is driven more by stans than actual mainstream GP appeal. 

-If a JP track doesn't do well, it indicates to me that

1. K-pop stans prefer KR releases, after all its Korean music they want, right?
2. The GP isn't really interested either, hence not enough GP listeners to make up the reduced engagement from K-pop stans (Looking at that Billboard chart run... F&T and Better deserve BETTER)

-ENG tracks seem to be somewhere in the middle ground. The GP seems to be more receptive to it... I assume it's thanks to Disney lmao

 

So no hit JP(...or EN?) tracks = no interest from GP. Which is why I don't think you can really handwave underperforming JP tracks as a non-issue.

 

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I'm gonna make the argument that karaoke rankings are much more indicative of GP impact (due to how widespread Karaoke is over there) than other platforms that tend to be more easily manipulated by companies and fans... 

This month's ranking (https://www.karatetsu.com/ranking/ )

#484 TT (JP ver)

#566 WIL (JP ver)

#781 The Feels

#993 Kura Kura 

So going off of this, I think it's clear that Twice doesn't have quite the same pull on the JP GP as before.

Hmmm, I suppose you can see it that way too, personally it kinda just feels like let's say, an american artist trying to branch out in latin america with spanish songs, those spanish songs could underperform while still being relevant with the GP with their english stuff (since it's what made them relevant anw), it's just not what they're known for/what they're looking for in said artist so it's harder to score same level-sized hits, especially with not-so-good promo! 

Not saying they're as big now as the artists you listed before but they're definitely the powerhouse for ggs with the GP, like not even the 46 ggs who had a cute digital moment in 2017-ish? are scoring hits anymore, and niziu is fading even though they have a fanbase more willing to buy albums (for now)

Also the karaoke chart is a weird metric, in 2020's yearly chart Feel Special was in the 300s while in 2021 it went down to the 500s and in that monthly chart you shared its n/a, when its for now their 2nd biggest hit there which should definitely equate to impact especially cause the gap is rather big, while WIL? has been in constant rise since 2019, so I wouldn't say it's thaaaat reliable either, and the fact there's no Perfume at all when they kind of have the biggest girl group legacy... idk 

[The Prophecy]

14 minutes ago, Narima said:

Sakura 

 

 

 

 

[saucy]

3 minutes ago, Shou7 said:

SCREAM i always thought the whole im fearless anagram thing was pretentious af but i just came across one of those be not afraid biblically accurate angel meme posts and i- with a heavy heart i have to admit its quite ingenious actually 

The runway looking like wings is actually really neat. I kinda wish we'd gotten a more mythical concept tho. 

[Gaia]

31 minutes ago, Jared said:

Gorl we get that you hate the song, but it clearly was successful on the charts and was big internationally compared to their past releases. Go listen to Psycho and hush.

Girl it has 37M streams after 2 months on Spotify. 
 

For comparison, LOVE DIVE has 45M and was released weeks after. 
 

The music video has 37M views after 2 months as well. It’s going to struggle / take over a year or years to surpass 100M on either platform. 
 

Big internationally

 

It was a cute hit on the K-charts and that’s all it served. It wasn’t a repeak by any means with GP. Maybe fanbase wise with the album sales

[Jared]

39 minutes ago, Narima said:

Sakura 

 

Sakura legend. Deserves all the success.  

[Jared]

Just now, Gaia said:

Girl it has 37M streams after 2 months on Spotify. 
 

For comparison, LOVE DIVE has 45M and was released weeks after. 
 

The music video has 37M views after 2 months as well. It’s going to struggle / take over a year or years to surpass 100M on either platform. 
 

Big internationally

 

It was a cute hit on the K-charts and that’s all it served. It wasn’t a repeak by any means with GP. Maybe fanbase wise with the album sales

I said compared to THEIR OWN past releases. Why are you bringing up Love Dive? Worms for brains.

[Blank Space]

34 minutes ago, saucy said:

 

 

 

Another 5/5 review for them from NME.

 

[Dialamba]

People are using Ive‘s stats but I thought they were just doing okay and it wasn’t impressive 

[Zack]

5 minutes ago, Jared said:

I said compared to THEIR OWN past releases. Why are you bringing up Love Dive? Worms for brains.

Not to mention FMR was actually a re-peak for them on the charts. 

 

 

[Dialamba]

 

[montacelo]

7 minutes ago, Zack said:

Not to mention FMR was actually a re-peak for them on the charts. 

 

 

And that’s the TRUTH 

[Cotton]

11 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

People are using Ive‘s stats but I thought they were just doing okay and it wasn’t impressive 

Hilarious honestly. I thought if you weren’t BP or BTS you couldn’t brag about global stats 

 

37M streams in two months is actually great. It’ll pass 100M in a few months. Again I don’t see the Naevis girls doing it

Edited May 10, 2022 by Cotton