CandyCoatedClouds Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: You guys were saying that they weren't underdogs which is a lie, since they used to be flops from 2018-2019 especially for a big 3 group. Some of the members barely debuted also, like what more do you need to be an underdog To not have one of the country's biggest label's behind them. That would make them true underdogs. Personally I don't care about that, I just think they're very similar to early BTS concept wise so their trajectory makes sense to me.
AbsynthPop Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Green Tea Is Green said: Edited June 29, 2022 by AbsynthPop
Gaia Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 I can’t believe it’s been almost 4 years since Jennie’s debut
joysaiyo Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, kokonk said: can a boy group do the bts formula but actually be good looking It's impossible, the BTS formula includes some ugly but unique looking members so non Asians can easily distinguish them. Maybe that's why SM boygroups are flopping outside of Asia, the way SM groups performing is just not Ifans style and their looks too. They're are just too "clean" and too perfect like a machine on stage that non-Asian fans cannot relate to them.
Witnessed ET Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: You guys were saying that they weren't underdogs which is a lie, since they used to be flops from 2018-2019 especially for a big 3 group. Some of the members barely debuted also, like what more do you need to be an underdog They are from JYP, already an advantage in terms of marketing and promotion and name-value attached. BTS were from an unknown company who were taking a risk and going in blindly. You see the difference?
Rainy Devil Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, joysaiyo said: It's impossible, the BTS formula includes some ugly nnn
Gaia Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, sunmimi imfurst said: I honestly think JYP should let Jihyo film a drama or something to help promote herself first and then do a solo. Nayeon was kinda ready out the gate. Jihyo… a drama…? Are we forgetting Korea has one of the harshest beauty standards and already dislike acting idols
joysaiyo Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 I'm here waiting for SM version of BTS though I'm sure the new boygroup will have some BoTS elements.
Witnessed ET Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, joysaiyo said: It's impossible, the BTS formula includes some ugly but unique looking members so non Asians can easily distinguish them. Maybe that's why SM boygroups are flopping outside of Asia, the way SM groups performing is just not Ifans style and their looks too. They're are just too "clean" and too perfect like a machine on stage that non-Asian fans cannot relate to them. the ugly part does not relate to them but ENHYPEN has members with pretty distinguishable looks and their music is also above all that noise you see from these 4th gen bgs. Plus, they’re also 7 members like BTS either them or TXT I guess. All the other 4th gen boygroups are either too many members for the global audience or simply noisy music that sounds the same if you don’t catch the group’s name before listening to them. but stray kids are kinda leading globally for now since they’ve had a headstart and made it big in 2020 before the other groups, although they need to graduate from the noise if they want to keep growing their fanbase.
sunmimi imfurst Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gaia said: Jihyo… a drama…? Are we forgetting Korea has one of the harshest beauty standards and already dislike acting idols She originally trained as an actress I think she is beautiful enough, she is more exotic/interesting looking than most Korean actresses I spose though. I just think she needs more casual fans before her solo and I say that as a Stan lol. The bob kinda gives her that elegant actress feel!
CandyCoatedClouds Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said: the ugly part does not relate to them but ENHYPEN has members with pretty distinguishable looks and their music is also above all that noise you see from these 4th gen bgs. Plus, they’re also 7 members like BTS either them or TXT I guess. All the other 4th gen boygroups are either too many members for the global audience or simply noisy music that sounds the same if you don’t catch the group’s name before listening to them. ENHYPEN but stray kids are kinda leading globally for now since they’ve had a headstart and made it big in 2020 before the other groups, although they need to graduate from the noise if they want to keep growing their fanbase. This is mostly true but there was that entire era drunk-dazed where Heeseung and Jake had similar haircuts so new fans (including myself) thought they looked too similar.
Witnessed ET Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, CandyCoatedClouds said: This is mostly true but there was that entire era drunk-dazed where Heeseung and Jake had similar haircuts so new fans (including myself) thought they looked too similar. Yeah they do have similar sharp facial shapes and features, now that you pointed it out but I feel like the rest of the group won’t have that problem, that’s honestly saying something when all kpop idols look the same for foreign non-kpop people. Edited June 29, 2022 by Witnessed ET
BigBangStan Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said: the ugly part does not relate to them but ENHYPEN has members with pretty distinguishable looks and their music is also above all that noise you see from these 4th gen bgs. Plus, they’re also 7 members like BTS either them or TXT I guess. All the other 4th gen boygroups are either too many members for the global audience or simply noisy music that sounds the same if you don’t catch the group’s name before listening to them. but stray kids are kinda leading globally for now since they’ve had a headstart and made it big in 2020 before the other groups, although they need to graduate from the noise if they want to keep growing their fanbase. Stray Kids are the closest to BTS, so they will be the ones to lead for now. I don't see it for TXT,their emo image is too niche.
DanyelP23 Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said: but ENHYPEN has members with pretty distinguishable looks The only ones with distinguishable features are Niki because Dr Kim didn’t get to touch him too much and Sunoo because the hunty is coming through even in photos. I could tell the difference between all 11 members of The Gayz after a week of getting into them but I still have troubles with Enhypen after almost a year.
Pluto6 Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) Speaking of Stray Kids, today they just started off their sold out North American leg of their world tour which are all stadiums btw. This is how you go from being underdogs to 4th gen leaders Edited June 29, 2022 by Pluto2022
Pluto6 Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) Lee Know is such a star Edited June 29, 2022 by Pluto2022
gugunikko Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 Doesn’t matter how much blackpink sold if aespa got number one before them on BB200.
Harrier Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 Ahh the way she ate this line UP giving stage presence too Other SM vocal lines are shaking honestly
gugunikko Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 Nayeon first Kpop female soloist to enter bb200 top 10 aespa first female Kpop group to top bb200 i guess blackpink akgaes can try first kpop female soloist to top bb200, but is it gonna be Jennie or Lisa?
sunmimi imfurst Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 The American tour circuit is so over saturated atm I know companies love jumping on trends but some groups should rly tour Europe, SEA or Australia too. I’m sure there’s demand. JYP rly should of done a few more tour stops for Twice.
Jenlisa Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Lee Know is such a star This is stray kids? Damn I see why y’all are simping, drop the song recs besties
DanyelP23 Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) Then random old messes being digged up: The Kim Garam print! Ha' influence knows no bounds and has reached the acting world as well. Edited June 29, 2022 by DanyelP23
Guest Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Speaking of Stray Kids, today they just started off their sold out North American leg of their world tour which are all stadiums btw. This is how you go from being underdogs to 4th gen leaders Stadium? they played stadium or arena?
Pluto6 Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) The way TWICE and SKZ are doing stadiums while JYP is giving HITZY small Loona stages Like HITZY can definitely do arenas Edited June 29, 2022 by Pluto2022
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