fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[MingYouToo]

1 minute ago, Century said:

snsd is objectively the most successful korean girl group ever, they're in the all time top 3 ww, neither 2NE1 or Black pink did that. This is false sorry, the SM gg lineage is much more prestigious. 

Thats the thing tho? SNSD is the only shining light in that label.

 

SNSD effortlessly SOLD albums and snatched a HIT every era for 15 years. ITNW, Kissing You, Gee, Genie, Oh, RDR, Hoot, The Boys, Mr Taxi, IGAB, Mr Mr, Party, Lion Heart, Lil Touch, Forever 1, HITS after HITS after HITS.

 

Their successors have always been middle of the road.

 

BLACKPINK is still bigger tho. DC, Spice Girls and BLACKPINK are the biggest GGs of the modern era.

[Selenasworld]

Just now, MingYouToo said:

Thats the thing tho? SNSD is the only shining light in that label.

 

SNSD effortlessly SOLD albums and snatched a HIT every era for 15 years. ITNW, Kissing You, Gee, Genie, Oh, RDR, Hoot, The Boys, Mr Taxi, IGAB, Mr Mr, Party, Lion Heart, Lil Touch, Forever 1, HITS after HITS after HITS.

 

Their successors have always been middle of the road.

 

BLACKPINK is still bigger tho. DC, Spice Girls and BLACKPINK are the biggest GGs of the modern era.

Iconic GGs and Blackpink

[Pluto6]

Jennie is the main character in Kpop both globally and domestically, everybody knows that. The way she has the Koreans on chokehold, like they are so obsessed with her   Everything she does is scandalous, and there's a reason why the Armys fear her the most out of the BP members

Edited December 30, 2022 by Pluto2022

[Sheep]

Just now, MingYouToo said:

Jennie has IG on a CHOKEHOLD

Lisa exists

Just now, MingYouToo said:

Smashed with her only single in 2018.

IU, Taeyeon, Sunmi, Taeyeon, Chungha, Hyuna. Nayeon, etc etc exist. Let alone the main Japan girls who destroy all of the girls I named in sales. 

2 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Everything she does causes a SCANDAL unlike with Jang WonJennie (Leeseo from IVE is the one thats the scandal queen from that group), RyuJennie, KariN/A.

This isn't a flex, she's extremely disliked and her pr team is a misogynist **** show that puts her into scandals instead of actually improving her public relations.

2 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Not to mention shes about to debut on HBO.

CL already appeared on network US television, korean stars are all over netflix, etc

 

4 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Other girlies get Vogue Korea while she gets to do Vogue US.

Plenty of idols get covered in american fashion press and have since 12nd gen.

5 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

No other Korean star holds a candle to her fame and reach.

She's not even the most famous from her own group(which is much less successful than Twice or SNSD . Please.

[Luckitty]

blackpink getting 2ne1'd 

[hallucinate]

unknown member? interesting

[GucciBang]

Jennie is truly the Mother  Iconic Queen birthing NewJennies and 7Jennies 

[MingYouToo]

1 minute ago, Century said:

Lisa exists

IU, Taeyeon, Sunmi, Taeyeon, Chungha, Hyuna. Nayeon, etc etc exist. Let alone the main Japan girls who destroy all of the girls I named in sales. 

This isn't a flex, she's extremely disliked and her pr team is a misogynist **** show that puts her into scandals instead of actually improving her public relations.

CL already appeared on network US television, korean stars are all over netflix, etc

 

Plenty of idols get covered in american fashion press and have since 12nd gen.

She's not even the most famous from her own group(which is much less successful than Twice or SNSD . Please.

Much less? Lmfao stfu BLACKPINK runs CIRCLES around SNSD and TWICE commercially and you know that.

 

Jennie's actual stateside presence is different from a LIFT live performance on Corden because shes actually RELEVANT.

 

Anyways the fact that u think twice and snsd are anywhere near future IFPI #1 artists BLACKPINK is laughable. 

 

[MingYouToo]

4 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

unknown member? interesting

Imagine if that unknown is Garam or Jinni. Stans would COLLAPSE.

 

[Sheep]

5 minutes ago, Mel. said:

BP has surpassed SNSD WW

let's not do this tonight 

This is false. They aren't going to anytime soon either unless they get albums out quicker. 

 

6 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

no lies when it comes to soshi but just 1 group is not a lineage 

the groups since then all had huge hits and it girls though. YG is on their 2nd successful girl group and already can't sustain solo music careers despite being the label that pioneered the group soloist strategy with GD 

7 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Thats the thing tho? SNSD is the only shining light in that label.

 

SNSD effortlessly SOLD albums and snatched a HIT every era for 15 years. ITNW, Kissing You, Gee, Genie, Oh, RDR, Hoot, The Boys, Mr Taxi, IGAB, Mr Mr, Party, Lion Heart, Lil Touch, Forever 1, HITS after HITS after HITS.

 

Their successors have always been middle of the road.

 

BLACKPINK is still bigger tho. DC, Spice Girls and BLACKPINK are the biggest GGs of the modern era.

All of SNSD's successors have had massive hits(as big as any of Black Pink's were). Also SNSD is far from the only shining light when BoA and SES started the legacy of trailblazing and opening up new markets before SNSD.

 

Again BP has not passed SNSD in sales, they haven't even passed Twice last I checked 

[Luckitty]

not a charts account already 

 

 

[MingYouToo]

7 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Jennie is the main character in Kpop both globally and domestically, everybody knows that. The way she has the Koreans on chokehold, like they are so obsessed with her   Everything she does is scandalous, and there's a reason why the Armys fear her the most out of the BP members

They are obsessed w her because she is peak Y/N. All the girls hate her bc they WANT to be her.

[Sheep]

2 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Much less? Lmfao stfu BLACKPINK runs CIRCLES around SNSD and TWICE commercially and you know that.

Definitely not in touring, not in albums, not in digitals. Maybe Streaming but even that becomes muddy once you start counting streams on Korean and Chinese services. 

[MingYouToo]

1 minute ago, Century said:

This is false. They aren't going to anytime soon either unless they get albums out quicker. 

 

the groups since then all had huge hits and it girls though. YG is on their 2nd successful girl group and already can't sustain solo music careers despite being the label that pioneered the group soloist strategy with GD 

All of SNSD's successors have had massive hits(as big as any of Black Pink's were). Also SNSD is far from the only shining light when BoA and SES started the legacy of trailblazing and opening up new markets before SNSD.

 

Again BP has not passed SNSD in sales, they haven't even passed Twice last I checked 

lmao we dont gaf about BoA let her sit in her executive role and do Got the Beat in peace. 

 

BLACKPINK hasnt surpassed them simply because they release infrequently but the fact that their 2 albums are 2M vs TWICE barely cracking 600k/comeback is proof of the MASSIVE chasm between them commercially.

[MingYouToo]

11 minutes ago, Selenasworld said:

Iconic GGs and Blackpink

If BlackPink is nowhere in that list then neither is ANY K-GG.

 

Theyre literally the most famous K-pop group of all time alongside BTS its ludicrous to not consider them there.

 

Once Jennie makes her influencer rounds and gives us the Asian Kylie Jenner LipKit moment its OVER for yall.

[GucciBang]

2 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

unknown member? interesting

The info I read before is that Prita is a thai, Asa is japanese and the girl Chikita might also be asian. BP is pretty much the biggest girl group in asia as none of the new girlies have the same chokehold (yet) so baemon have a strong chance to be their successor, thanks to the the asian members (the thai member is most likely 100% real)

[Sorecer]

YG trying to overshadow newjennies will backfire them. 

Newjennies will take that #1  

 

This is fun to watch but after blackpink there's no way I'll Stan a group from that company ever again. That's literally sadomasochism 

 

Since YG is debuting their group now curious what will be SM new moves aside of aespa comeback. For sure the new GG is also debuting 

[Luckitty]

3 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Imagine if that unknown is Garam or Jinni. Stans would COLLAPSE.

 

it'd be so funny if it turns out to be jinni  it'd be the 2nd time a jyp gg member leaves shortly after debut to debut in another group

[Sheep]

7 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

BLACKPINK hasnt surpassed them simply because they release infrequently but the fact that their 2 albums are 2M vs TWICE barely cracking 600k/comeback is proof of the MASSIVE chasm between them commercially.

Blackpink wouldn't sell as high with frequent comebacks, its why they have to release on a schedule even slower than IVE. Everybody knows this. 

 

Twice could come back weekly and still do numbers. Same with SNSD at their peak.

 

Black Pink has the 2 biggest kpop girl group albums but career totals aren't near Twice or SNSD and those 2 albums did NOT do the type of numbers The Spice Girls did(another group that didn't release much during their run), they didn't do per album numbers on par with even DC, who were active for a solid decade. I'm going to need some respect for actual legendary groups that spawned REAL stars like Beyonce and Taeyeon. 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Century

[MingYouToo]

Just now, Luckitty said:

it'd be so funny if it turns out to be jinni  it'd be the 2nd time a jyp gg member leaves shortly after debut to debut in another group

Only to end up just as if not MORE iconic than their original group.

 

Wonder Girls will remain the second failed attempt at K-pop in America while HYUNA remains the ICON who gave us Bubble Pop and 4Minute.

 

Jinni in a YG GG would EAATTTTT

[hallucinate]

 

[MingYouToo]

1 minute ago, Dark Horse said:

thats not enough to make the group have actual cultural PRESENCE. whenever RV releases something people are just hoping its not a bad song  if its a dud then whatever. that's the attitude SM has cultivated with them. they're just.. there

SM and JYP are truly the background stars in a Dream High show. YG the main characters I fear! Drama, jail time, late debuts, wHEW the girls are mad their EDM 2010 bops are RE:JECTED

[Sheep]

2 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

thats not enough to make the group have actual cultural PRESENCE. whenever RV releases something people are just hoping its not a bad song  if its a dud then whatever. that's the attitude SM has cultivated with them. they're just.. there

BP has a bigger cultural presence than RV, but SM still has a much bigger legacy on the whole with ggs.

[hallucinate]

3 minutes ago, GucciBang said:

The info I read before is that Prita is a thai, Asa is japanese and the girl Chikita might also be asian. BP is pretty much the biggest girl group in asia as none of the new girlies have the same chokehold (yet) so baemon have a strong chance to be their successor, thanks to the the asian members (the thai member is most likely 100% real)

plus they will have all eyes on them, i don’t think they will flop like some users are expecting them to

[Luckitty]

1 minute ago, MingYouToo said:

Only to end up just as if not MORE iconic than their original group.

 

Wonder Girls will remain the second failed attempt at K-pop in America while HYUNA remains the ICON who gave us Bubble Pop and 4Minute.

 

Jinni in a YG GG would EAATTTTT

it'd make a lot of sense, if i were in nmixx i would've jumped ship asap

 

although i still think she got kicked out