fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Zack]

32 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters.

This! Plus...judging by how a certain other 4th gen comeback is doing currently, we can drop the Girls "flop" allegations too.

 

[illia]

wow it feels refreshing to see the MV reactions individually instead of the group one

 

 

[Adama]

21 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

nmixx are like wjsn, talented group with a flop first year 

But WJSN didn’t came from a big 3 agency! Do we have a big 3 gg who flopped during their first year? 

[WhalieX]

1 hour ago, Adama said:

Urgh bc of the WC and his song playing when SK won, Jungkook awful song is top 5 on melon ! I mean no one can have a bigger promo than this one. Glad that the most talented of the group is winning but the song is so bad I can’t 

 

 

SMTM song is also coming 

 

 

I just love IU , she better drop an album next year 

 

Welp I guess we have songs that'll kick LD out of top 10...the fact that it was out at #11 for a week or two and then it climbed back to #8 

[Luckitty]

12 minutes ago, Adama said:

But WJSN didn’t came from a big 3 agency! Do we have a big 3 gg who flopped during their first year? 

f(x) and red velvet

[youcallingmyname]

Y’all really move the goal posts whenever gidle is involved huh?

 

they keep growing each comeback but y’all love to scream how they will fail or try to diminish their accomplishments

 

They are a 2018 group who have shown tremendous growth over the years and came back strong after losing a member,one who was popular at that and still are hitting career peaks

 

its giving ugly hater teas 

[hallucinate]

so many ggs are doing well compared to the 3rd gen so there aren’t enough top groups to compare 

we should be comparing them to 2nd gen ggs instead

[DRod93]

At this point, I’m honestly asking, can ITZY recover? They feel even more done than TWICE.

 

JYP is in desperate need of a shakeup.

 

it feels like the only groups from before this year to still feel relevant are Stray Kids and (G)I-DLE. TXT, ITZY, ENHYPEN, Treasure and aespa no longer feel like they have the chokehold they used to

[BowWow]

1 minute ago, DRod93 said:

At this point, I’m honestly asking, can ITZY recover? They feel even more done than TWICE.

 

JYP is in desperate need of a shakeup.

 

it feels like the only groups from before this year to still feel relevant are Stray Kids and (G)I-DLE. TXT, ITZY, ENHYPEN, Treasure and aespa no longer feel like they have the chokehold they used to

They’ve peaked and will always be A-/B tier for their gen from now on

 

maybe some one of hits but considering this flop following Sneakers it’s clear it’s over 

[Hazy]

1 hour ago, BigBangStan said:

What will Baemon be then? 

a fad 

no sane soul should follow YG gg (except for when they will serve XG type of slayage and I believe only YG group is capable of that in Korea) 

 

and we already got promised NewJennies so YG is late 

 

1 hour ago, Adama said:

But where does Adspa stand? Even if IVE is getting closer in term of physicals sales, Aespa still lead there and they still have the biggest fandom 

time will show, but their ae concept will be the problem, they will have huge fan following but gp will ignore them because of that 

 

basically female nct and sm seems to be ok with that

 

and IVE sold almost 3m albums this year, with single albums, at that, so aespa isn’t really that groundbreaking anymore, After Like alone did almost the same numbers as Girls and I won’t go about aespa’s streaming stats 

 

51 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters.

please compare them with leading 4th gen groups since not so long ago they were proclaimed NGG, bigger than BP and Twice and so on 

 

aespa has huge success and huge stan following, but their concept is what’s polarizing and it shows in their global streaming stats - all ggs which debuted this year will surpass Savage soon (NJ, LSF - IVE already did - and they are barely few months old) 

 

NMIXX hated flop O.O did more than both „hit” Illusion and Girls  SM needs to step up its game if they really want to compete with the new ggs

[Hazy]

37 minutes ago, Zack said:

This! Plus...judging by how a certain other 4th gen comeback is doing currently, we can drop the Girls "flop" allegations too.

 

Girls did worse than NMIXX on a global scale, please  Melon this Melon that

[Dialamba]

oh wow 

 

 

Lowkey their best b-bside. My fav nugu group. 

[Hazy]

actually NMIXX has kinda nice stats on Spotify despite their „genre”  I wasn’t aware of that! good for them! 

 

it’s kinda interesting that SM groups have one of the biggest sales but are struggling on streaming, it’s not that visible for other companies 

[MusicFan98]

12 minutes ago, Hazy said:

NMIXX hated flop O.O did more than both „hit” Illusion and Girls  SM needs to step up its game if they really want to compete with the new ggs

You want to tell me O.O is bigger than Illusion lmao. 

[JanuaryDay]

19 minutes ago, DRod93 said:

At this point, I’m honestly asking, can ITZY recover? They feel even more done than TWICE.

 

JYP is in desperate need of a shakeup.

 

it feels like the only groups from before this year to still feel relevant are Stray Kids and (G)I-DLE. TXT, ITZY, ENHYPEN, Treasure and aespa no longer feel like they have the chokehold they used to

The Treasure sneak...

[ayndr]

We need Chaeryeong to go viral again  JYP better go buy some Soju.

[Billionaire]

24 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

so many ggs are doing well compared to the 3rd gen so there aren’t enough top groups to compare 

we should be comparing them to 2nd gen ggs instead

This. 

 

2NE1 = NewJeans with their quirky style, several smashes off debut, global appeal, etc. 

 

IVE = SNSD with several IT girls in one group, also have global appeal, etc

 

aespa = Wonder Girls. Both had massive hype initially but due to their respective companies obsession with the West sort of struggle to keep up.

 

There you go 

[Ghiles]

Yesan Peace Concert

 

[CrisPop]

1 hour ago, MusicFan98 said:

People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters.

Latest Melon update:

99. SNEAKERS

100. Illusion 

 

Something isn’t adding up. 

[OrgVisual]

With RV, TWICE and MAMAMOO tanking and BP underperforming with their first comeback in 2 years, 3rd gen GG is truly over I fear

[MusicFan98]

2 minutes ago, CrisPop said:

Latest Melon update:

99. SNEAKERS

100. Illusion 

 

Something isn’t adding up. 

So Korea's main chart is MelOn and not Circle? 

 

 

[Pluto6]

It's crazy how there was only 4 popular girl-groups in 3rd gen  (BP, TWICE, RV, MAMAMOO) 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Pluto2022

[Hazy]

12 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

You want to tell me O.O is bigger than Illusion lmao. 

it looks like it may be  not on Melon, but we need to remember that kpop is global! 

 

Illusion 58m

O.O 101m

DICE 41m

 

and that with aespa US push, 1.8m sales (where are the streams to back it up?) and Illusion outcharting Girls on Melon… 

 

also Girls is at 51m 

 

kinda bad, isn’t it? with how NMIXX is panned and kinda lower tier in comparison 

[Cotton]

12 minutes ago, CrisPop said:

Latest Melon update:

99. SNEAKERS

100. Illusion 

 

Something isn’t adding up. 

This isn’t even a win for Itzy seeing as Illusion is older and is about to overtake clearly

 

8 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

It's crazy how there was only 4 girl-groups smashing/being relevant in 3rd gen  (BP, TWICE, RV, MAMAMOO) 

+ Gfriend but yeah there were barely any girl groups getting hits outside of those 4 (although OMG peaked at the cusp of the end of 3rd gen and beginning of 4th gen). It’s nicer seeing more girl groups thriving 

[Pluto6]

Actually "O.O" is one of the most recognizable songs released this year, whether it's for good reasons or not

Edited December 3, 2022 by Pluto2022