Zack Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sept said: The way SM has not announced RV's pre-orders yet Flop incoming They usually don't announce until the day before. Aespa was an exception because they passed 1M pre-orders really quickly. For me, best case scenario is they match FMR's performance. This era has been too botched and ruined by bad organization already.
Witnessed ET Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: Yes, because LFS are the first girl group to have teaser pictures in a car Who said that? Re-read my post.
cloudbusting Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sept said: The way SM has not announced RV's pre-orders yet Flop incoming i fear the botched availability will hurt them a bit but eh they’ll be okay
hallucinate Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, cloudbusting said: nnn she looked SO done with it someone needs to make a compilation of SM idols being done w kwangya lore tbh queen kwangya was cute at first (when only aespa was involved) but SM ruined it
hallucinate Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 hybe stans lowkey becoming the new sm sheep tho i can see the similarities between the two teasers but idk, both slay
Zack Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 The queens, aespa! This is incredible for them
OrgVisual Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: i fear the botched availability will hurt them a bit but eh they’ll be okay Girl even Seulgi sold more than that But then they only have 1 ver (since the Cake ver is very limited nnnnnn)
Gaia Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Cotton said: How are RV and Itzy serving NewJeans and Lesserafim? Right? Especially when NJ are using the same art director who directed for RV People just be saying anything
Gaia Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Can people actually post the similarities between RV and NJ? Or LSRF, whatever the comparison is. If it’s so obvious it shouldn’t even be hard to do. Why is there such a strong habit to make claims without posting the receipts Edited November 23, 2022 by Gaia
Dialamba Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 How can you say RV is inspired by NJ and LSR it’s like saying Pink venom was inspired by black mamba Can y’all be serious
DelRey Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: Loona is really cursed
getinthezone Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 only 3 new songs for ITZY WTF JYP and what does cheshire mean?
Zack Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 Not people claiming RV is "copying" LSRFM because of a car picture...as if HYBE is doing something original with those girls But at the same time ignoring the fact that "Impurities" is a literal RV wannabe/cosplay, right down to the song itself which has the same writers and production team who work heavily with RV and produced many of their Velvet side songs. I laughed though
Shou7 Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 The hot take here is that NJ and LSFM being inspired by RV is NOT mutually exclusive with RV being inspired by NJ and LSFM. Let's be real, RV would not be featuring an ugly ass rabbit graphic and Y2k 240P video aesthetic this comeback were it not for the success of NJ and LSFM. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Some of yall are so quick to call any form of influence "copying" when the reality is that none of these acts exist in a vacuum. And is it really "copying" if RV have made the aesthetic their own? It's got their signature quirky and unnerving vibe, and they all look stunning. This whole agument is so reductive tbh.
OrgVisual Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shou7 said: The hot take here is that NJ and LSFM being inspired by RV is NOT mutually exclusive with RV being inspired by NJ and LSFM. Let's be real, RV would not be featuring an ugly ass rabbit graphic and Y2k 240P video aesthetic this comeback were it not for the success of NJ and LSFM. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Some of yall are so quick to call any form of influence "copying" when the reality is that none of these acts exist in a vacuum. And is it really "copying" if RV have made the aesthetic their own? It's got their signature quirky and unnerving vibe, and they all look stunning. This whole agument is so reductive tbh. When did LSFM ever have Y2K aesthetic? And why don't we mention Itzy and Twice who actually did y2k concepts Y'll act like NJ invented Y2K when it's just a huge trend in general in Korea since January this year. All these groups are just riding on the trend
Shou7 Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sept said: When did LSFM ever have Y2K aesthetic? And why don't we mention Itzy and Twice who actually did y2k concepts Y'll act like NJ invented Y2K when it's just a huge trend in general in Korea since January this year. All these groups are just riding on the trend They literally have sections in antifragile that looks like it was shot out of a 2002 camcorder...??? And like what ITZY and TWICE song was 1. A hit and 2. Blew up BECAUSE of the Y2K concept? (dont really care for these groups but feel free to argue otherwise) Either way it doesn't detract from my point that influence=/=copying and influence is not an inherently negative thing
Zack Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Shou7 said: RV would not be featuring an ugly ass rabbit graphic and Y2k 240P video aesthetic this comeback were it not for the success of NJ and LSFM. We've been through this. It's not a rabbit. It's a reference to the cat from Ice Cream Cake (2015) and Russian Roulette (2016). SM's press release even said that Birthday would be referencing RV's older eras. NJ is just a reductive rehash of MHJ's older concepts.
Shou7 Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Zack said: We've been through this. It's not a rabbit. It's a reference to the cat from Ice Cream Cake (2015) and Russian Roulette (2016). SM's press release even said that Birthday would be referencing RV's older eras. NJ is just a reductive rehash of MHJ's older concepts. Rabbit or cat is beside the point. What matters is the style. Like, clearly from the tweet you quoted, the RV team is aware that there are so many different ways that the cat could have been depicted. So 1. Choosing for the cat to be in this style in this moment of time is a conscious decision which seems to be at least partially influenced by NJ's success 2. RV featuring the cat is a throwback to older concepts 3. NJ is a reductive rehash of old MHJ concepts All three points can be true simultaneously. None of them are arguments against another. Edited November 23, 2022 by Shou7
Witnessed ET Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) The absolute hypocrisy and selective outrage in here never fails to amaze me everyone is so focused and hellbent on giving their own two cents that they don’t even realize how transparent their posts really are. Especially the ones who act all high and mighty over some kpop opinions. more entertainment for me though. Edited November 23, 2022 by Witnessed ET
Adama Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mel. said: With thanksgiving tomorrow and the Christmas songs coming Shut down is going to fight for his spot
Tomek Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 Kpop groups being influenced by other groups? Shocker
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