Butters Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Somi said: All of them being such stable vocalists Chaewon’s range has improved so much. And Sakura has never sounded so stable. Oh wow
aesthetic bih Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, saucy said: TABS with the emphasis to the A part
VelvetCrush Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Cotton said: I’d like to talk about how sick all of y’all are for switching on Chungha after Stay Tonight tanked. I’m going through her songs and y’all really need to pay respect to her The way Killing Me was paid she doesn't deserve this
Axel. Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: It's coming?? no Edited May 10, 2022 by Axel.
aesthetic bih Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Axel. said: Reveal hidden contents no I guess, it's too early! Let me not jinx them
Shou7 Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said: Hmmm, I suppose you can see it that way too, personally it kinda just feels like let's say, an american artist trying to branch out in latin america with spanish songs, those spanish songs could underperform while still being relevant with the GP with their english stuff (since it's what made them relevant anw), it's just not what they're known for/what they're looking for in said artist so it's harder to score same level-sized hits, especially with not-so-good promo! Not saying they're as big now as the artists you listed before but they're definitely the powerhouse for ggs with the GP, like not even the 46 ggs who had a cute digital moment in 2017-ish? are scoring hits anymore, and niziu is fading even though they have a fanbase more willing to buy albums (for now) Also the karaoke chart is a weird metric, in 2020's yearly chart Feel Special was in the 300s while in 2021 it went down to the 500s and in that monthly chart you shared its n/a, when its for now their 2nd biggest hit there which should definitely equate to impact especially cause the gap is rather big, while WIL? has been in constant rise since 2019, so I wouldn't say it's thaaaat reliable either, and the fact there's no Perfume at all when they kind of have the biggest girl group legacy... idk -Yeah, I also think original JP releases (even if they're not as successful) are important for goodwill from JP citizens, because they're a sign you're actually serious about taking on the JP market, and not just trying to make a quick buck. But tbh, smth abt (most) original JP songs just never quite hit the same mark as KR ones. At this pt, I think it'd be smarter to just release a JP version of title tracks simultaneously with KR ones... -That's why I called the GG competition in JP an empty house. Twice is undoubtedly one of the biggest GG names in JP and yet there's still such a big gap between them and the mainstream acts. I wonder how long it's going to be till we get anth early 2000s MoMusu/AKB level of domination from a GG (k-pop or not) -I mean they do have a pretty big stanbase there, evident from their dome concerts. And we all know how much FS meant to onces. So i wouldn't be surprised if a large part of its longevity on streaming is due to its status as a stanbase classic. -as for WIL.... Top 3 Twice song I think JP got that right!! It being one of the easier Twice songs to singalong to definitely helps IMO. -wrt prfm... There's no mistake there alright they're known and respected, but no one really checks for their music anymore. Their legacy is showing up to kouhaku every year to put on a light show, and popping up on morning news every once in a while to promote a non-kouhaku light show. Doesn't help that they never really got smash hits during their heyday either.
Gaia Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jared said: I said compared to THEIR OWN past releases. Why are you bringing up Love Dive? Worms for brains. It’s not even Top 5 of their own hits internationally
Shou7 Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, saucy said: The runway looking like wings is actually really neat. I kinda wish we'd gotten a more mythical concept tho. Right imagine being based on angels and debuting with a mermaid song in your album instead jsmsjdjsjdk In uhhhh anth 9 years when theyre all of age, it'd be cool if they really went all out with the angels on a runway concept and served us smth like this
xfreshkidxx Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dialamba said: Kinda suprised they were the 1st for all these milestones and not BTS nn. But quality winning
xfreshkidxx Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Cotton said: When we say peak do we mean digital peak? Because if so then Twice peaked in 2016. RV 2017 and BP 2018 if we’re being honest since DDDD + FY > HYLT and LSG if you ask me. But regardless when y’all are saying how 3rd gen groups are over and then saying how 2nd gen groups outlasted…literally where. Most of 2nd gen were disbanded 7 years in. RV are still smashing, as will BP and Twice are still getting cute lil hits. Their album sales are always increasing too. This generation’s biggest groups will still thrive long into 4th gen like there’s no erasure the way some of y’all think there is. They had their biggest hit in 2016 but I wouldnt say it was their overall peak. They had 3#1s in 2018. Dance The Night Away + What Is Love? were smash hits. Yes or Yes not as big was still huge and got a PAK.
cloudbusting Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 the way they predicted Wonho’s solo career with this
Axel. Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 The reality is that there is still a huge wall between the top girl groups from the third generation and Red Velvet. I guess they can compete with groups that just debuted like aespa or IVE (and still lose).
Jared Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 53 minutes ago, Cotton said: Hilarious honestly. I thought if you weren’t BP or BTS you couldn’t brag about global stats 37M streams in two months is actually great. It’ll pass 100M in a few months. Again I don’t see the Naevis girls doing it Black Mamba and Next Level are over 100M streams and Savage is at 96M. So I don't get this shade.
yamiyuuuu Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Cotton said: I’d like to talk about how sick all of y’all are for switching on Chungha after Stay Tonight tanked. I’m going through her songs and y’all really need to pay respect to her Querencia is THAT album I need the good sis to release another bop, don't know what she's waiting for
Rhyme Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Axel. said: The reality is that there is still a huge wall between the top girl groups from the third generation and Red Velvet. I guess they can compete with groups that just debuted like aespa or IVE (and still lose). Red Velvet is obviously in the Top 3 girlgroups in 3rd gen. TWICE and BLACKPINK are way more successful, but that doesn't really take away from how well Red Velvet's done for themselves. I love how it really is be the top of the top or you're nothing to certain groups for some of you. What a cynical way to enjoy K-pop
Jared Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Gaia said: It’s not even Top 5 of their own hits internationally It's literally their highest charting single on the global spotify chart, but okay whatever makes you happy.
xfreshkidxx Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, xrosup said: Oh wow. They truly deserve it. Twice representing for the girls.
Jared Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Axel. said: The reality is that there is still a huge wall between the top girl groups from the third generation and Red Velvet. I guess they can compete with groups that just debuted like aespa or IVE (and still lose). Okay and? Besides Mamamoo (for a certain time), no other 3rd gen group came close to touching RV either. ReVeluvs are not complaining about being third place. We have made peace with that and are enjoying the longevity of their success and continued recognition for their quality releases.
cloudbusting Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Red Velvet getting the girls riled up, must be a day that ends in y
Jared Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, cloudbusting said: Red Velvet getting the girls riled up, must be a day that ends in y The way we were innocently celebrating FMR's success and out of nowhere people start belittling their success by bringing up 4th gen and BP/Twice. Like uh okay?
Cotton Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Longevity makes up for the fact their RV’s peak wasn’t as big they’re bigger than the former NGG digitally in Korea and have managed to outsell their recent albums on hanteo. Overall Twice and BP are bigger but it ain’t 2019 RV is up there with them. Really the huge wall y’all speak of is behind RV because where are those groups now? ANYWAY Jessica’s book spilling the tea Edited May 10, 2022 by Cotton
illia Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: the way they predicted Wonho’s solo career with this I giggled
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